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Woman weakens Navy subs because who needs 'stupid' specifications (www.navytimes.com)
posted 4 years ago by TomSeeSaw 4 years ago by TomSeeSaw +107 / -0
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– TomSeeSaw [S] 67 points 4 years ago +67 / -0

Thomas faces up to 10 years in prison and a $1 million fine when she is sentenced in February. However, the Justice Department said it would recommend a prison term at the low end of whatever the court determines is the standard sentencing range in her case.

The pussy pass continues to pay out

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– Ahaus667 51 points 4 years ago +51 / -0

Women are equal.

Women can’t be held accountable for their actions.

Pick one

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– MargarineMongoose 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

It's baked into human biology to protect them, so the only sensible thing to do is take away their rights seeing as how they'll never be held responsible.

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– Realchebz 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

it was never about equality.. just a clever trick. they use to attain power. Whenever you have something they dont, they suddenly demand equality. Whenever they have something you don't or commit a crime or on a sinking ship- oh well she's just a woman.

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– Sgt_Thundercok 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Leftists: 'Why not both?'

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– gustodog 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

China, and a certain tiny but massively influential ethnic group, run the US.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 35 points 4 years ago +35 / -0

This offense is unique in that it was neither motivated by greed nor any desire for personal enrichment.

Really?

She faked the results for the benefit of the company she worked for. That's not greed, but it's definitely for the continued benefit of her career.

Navy required the tests to be conducted at negative-100 degrees Fahrenheit (negative-73.3 degrees Celsius).

I'll admit, this is a pretty ridiculous requirement for submarine, but it's not ridiculous if that same alloy is going to end up in use on land in on the side of a mountain in tibet.

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– BandageBandolier 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Yeah, it does seem excessive. Although the old cold war paradigm does see them in service in the arctic a lot, and whilst most of the ocean up there is ~-1.8'C you can get localized sections of water flow that are much cooler because of surface freezing concentrating salt levels and forming a column of water that can cool much further without freezing. Although I'd guess that kind of process would reach -10'C at most in natural conditions, and the absolute max you could do just by increasing salinity is -21'C. So still excessive.

Nonetheless, you don't do this passive aggressive "I think I know better, but won't actually confront anyone about it" bullshit, and you sure as shit don't falsify the specs. As you say they could repurpose it for something that does need those specs, because they were specifically told it meets them, and then someone ends up very dead.

[Edit] Fuck, never mind. The US has plenty of nuclear subs, there's nothing to say they wouldn't be in contact with some emergency cryogenic cooling system, or they don't keep liquid O2 onboard for extended underwater operations. Those cold specs could very much have been necessary.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Or if it surfaces in the arctic and portions of the sub are in air that could potentially be much colder than freezing.

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– LauriThorne 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

You also don't test for way out of the acceptable result not the acceptable result.

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– Grumman 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

She suggested that in some cases she changed the tests to passing grades because she thought it was “stupid” that the Navy required the tests to be conducted at negative-100 degrees Fahrenheit (negative-73.3 degrees Celsius).

If the requirement seemed stupid, she had two options:

  1. Ask for clarification. Maybe there is some circumstance in which the steel might be exposed to such temperatures, but maybe it's just to make sure the steel you're selling them is the same as the steel they requested. It's like the idea of biting a gold coin - you don't actually care about whether you can dent the coin or not, as long as it behaves like gold and not gold-plated lead.

  2. Declare it's not her problem. Unless the requirements are physically impossible, she could have just smiled, nodded and given the Navy what they asked for. If meeting their exacting requirements is too costly, tell your boss that he needed a higher price on the contract.

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– yeldarb1983 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

It's like Van Halen and the brown M&Ms. For context, van halen would put a rider in their safety instructions that there needed to be a bowl of M&Ms with not even one brown one left in the bowl. this was there to ensure that their safety instructions were followed to the letter, and it was safe to take the stage, but if you were setting up the event, it would probably seem pretty bizarre.

Point is, if you're under contract and the customer asks for something outrageous, you do what's asked of you. If you absolutely have to question the group/person you're under contract to, do so, but don't pull some passive agressive bullshit like this...

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– CarmenOfSandiego 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Point is, if you're under contract and the customer asks for something outrageous, you do what's asked of you. If you absolutely have to question the group/person you're under contract to, do so, but don't pull some passive agressive bullshit like this...

Ben Affleck and Matt Damon did that with the script to Good Will Hunting including a completely out of left field gay sex scene between two of the characters in the film that only one studio producer asked about showing the script had actually been read.

That producer was Harvey Weinstein however so it's not a tale that gets told often these days 🙄

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– yeldarb1983 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

must have missed that scene, but can I just ask one question?

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Where in the world are you? =P

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– BidenLikesMiners 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

that was probably one of the few scense he was able to jack off too, that old fuck

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– deleted 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0
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– All1000wombats 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Treason!

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– covok48 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Women are unable to take responsibility & be accountable at the same time. Ever.

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– Idontbelieveit 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Doesn't matter that no one died because of her fraud...she knew what she was doing and did it over the course of months and years. She should get the max sentence.

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– realerfunction 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

this is treason

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– BidenLikesMiners 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

its a bit more troubling that the navy never tested the metal themselves. What else is getting underspecced due to private contractors?

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