It's funny how teaching kids right from wrong has become "Indoctrination" these days. Especially when it's being done by parents and family members and not the media doing it.
They feel that they have a god given right to demand people change their beliefs to fit theirs, or get punished.
It is essentially a modern day Inquisition, except instead of religion this time they are hunting down the people with enough common sense to not join their side.
"We'll convert your children"
"Gen Z's gayer than Grindr"
You have to be willfully deaf and blind not interpret this as a celebration of grooming children for homosexual activity.
Christ, the song fucking BEGINS with an admission that they lied.
The idea that they're just teaching kids 'acceptance' is another lie. They're grooming kids. They want to be able to fuck young boys.
It has been looked into... The answer may surprise you! It wasn't "every single one of them". Only one or two of them were convicted child rapists. Sex offenders in general a bit higher.
But I mean, take any group of 20 random people and you're going to get 10% child rapists, right? That's definitely the crime rate for that crime, 10% of the population, right? Clearly there's no other factors that might be at play in this group that could lead to an astronomically-higher-than-predicted amount of rapists, it's just a group that sings multiple times about how good sexually grooming children is for them.
how many mottes and baileys like this must we as a civilization go through until we realize the very ground they stand on is corrupt in the first place?
gays got rights one time in history, 50-odd-years later they're putting this shit out and raping kids in the background. should we reset and try again, try the scientific method, see if they end up raping kids again?
Cutting it for efficiency and effect makes no difference to the real point that was sung. Teaching "not to hate, being tolerant and fair" doesn't mean those words. It means indoctrination.
When the left talks about "teach them not to hate", they're literally talking about anti-capitalism, Frankfurt school Marxism, and submission to tyranny. Don't be deliberately obtuse.
Subtext is important, and you're falling into the brainwashing trap that led us here to this point, (hence why other users downvoted you).
The reality is that there is ZERO reason homosexuals should be singing about TEACHING kids anything, because the entire point of why they are defined as homosexuals deals with the fact that men have sex with men and women have sex with women.
WHY should they be teaching kids about anything to do with their lifestyle, even if it's "not to hate"? WHY should kids even know about the lifestyle of same-sex intercourse? WHY?!
That's the fundamental problem anyone with common sense has. But before you can arrive at that point you have to stop looking at everything from the lens of Left-wing acceptance, and first ask the very basic question of WHY homosexuality and teaching kids about accepting their lifestyle is something that should even be promoted?
I don't buy it anymore. This is not exactly equivalent, but similar to the motte-and-bailey shit they are pulling when advocating for other extreme positions. Maybe someone smarter than me knows a word for it.
Every small tongue-in-cheek joke on the right is a dog whistle for people who in reality want to implement the fourth reich. On the other side it was of course irony, sarcasm, obvious humor, when the backlash becomes to great.
"Don't you get a joke? It is really about teaching love and tolerance. How can you be against teaching kids about love and tolerance (and Grindr)?" These people are not stupid. This is a calculated provocation, and they know it.
Good to see that they are still unable not to gloat, though.
I've been considering this a lot recently: hate is now a forbidden emotion. This is the groundwork of emotional manipulation (perhaps even abuse). The implication is that experiencing this emotion is a sin and must be avoided at all costs. The why is in the face of their words, believing that hatred is the devil of emotion - as if no wrong action may be performed in absence of hatred.
I don't know the big brain term for this, though.
If I ever bothered to talk to such people, I might try explaining the value of hatred to them, just to see how they react. Having their premise rejected is not what they're expecting - they're expecting you to argue on their grounds by associating a particular emotion with an unrelated idea. It's almost as if they need you to do this to upkeep their own dogma.
The implication is that experiencing this emotion is a sin and must be avoided at all costs.
Interesting observation. But do you maybe mean anger instead of hate? Hate is a very crude emotion. Maybe appropriate if someone smugly insinuates grooming children. But hate is not very useful, since it is usually self-destructive. You know, like "don't care what happens as long as I take the other bastard with me." Anger as a creative masculine emotion is definetly forbidden now. I wonder if there is some form of psychological damage, if one is conditioned to always suppress or deny anger.
And there is a lot more emotional(?) manipulation going on. Opponents of mainstream ideas are either fearful in an irrational way (transphobia, homophobia, islamophobia,...), or they are dangerous because they cannot control their hate. It cannot be doubt, dislike, scepticism, antipathy, distrust, aversion, disgust,... something that a more or less rational thought process has lead you to. It must either be fear or hate. Same linguistic impoverishment, but the other way around, for love. There is only one kind of love. Everything that feels good is love. Lust is love. Fucking children is "teaching them how to love." And since we are against 'love', it must be that we are mad with hate.
But hate is not very useful, since it is usually self-destructive.
I think every negative emotion has a potential benefit. At the least, noticing a hatred response to some stimuli can provide you with knowledge of your own beliefs. Of course, if you act on this feeling, you're likely to suffer because you likely live in a civil society. Civility gives a lot of great stuff, but it is not kind to primitive impulses. If you live like an ape in the woods, then relying on emotion and instinct probably becomes more useful.
One of the last useful things I ever saw on /pol/ was "hatred is the immune system of the soul". I agree with it, after translating it to "hatred shows you when and where your deepest most foundational principles have been violated". Despite our civil advances, I don't believe most of our populace could be considered philosophical enough to not have need of this data.
I wonder if there is some form of psychological damage, if one is conditioned to always suppress or deny anger.
I'm broken enough to confirm this. Do not develop a habit of bottling up your anger. That will fucking break you and you won't see it coming. You'll think you're doing just fine until it's too late. It either seeps out in small bits every day, or it explodes all at once.
You can ignore hatred because it's just a view of your personal boundaries. Worst that should happen is you stop noticing when your boundaries change. Anger comes more from injustice, so failing to handle it gradually teaches you that you cannot expect justice from your world - people can be very dangerous when they expect everything to go wrong. I'm no emotion expert though, so I can't say much about the areas where hatred and anger overlap.
I agree with everything else you said. Wasn't sure if I should touch on any of it since I assume most people here are familiar with the villainy that can be found so easily now. I suppose I should respect the success of emotions as an attack vector, but I do despise it - I just hope our society develops some cultural antibody to it in the future.
That language is armed and loaded.
It's funny how teaching kids right from wrong has become "Indoctrination" these days. Especially when it's being done by parents and family members and not the media doing it.
They feel that they have a god given right to demand people change their beliefs to fit theirs, or get punished.
It is essentially a modern day Inquisition, except instead of religion this time they are hunting down the people with enough common sense to not join their side.
"We'll convert your children" "Gen Z's gayer than Grindr"
You have to be willfully deaf and blind not interpret this as a celebration of grooming children for homosexual activity.
Christ, the song fucking BEGINS with an admission that they lied. The idea that they're just teaching kids 'acceptance' is another lie. They're grooming kids. They want to be able to fuck young boys.
Also https://twitter.com/CoomersPostingL/status/1413595505096015882
Banned already lol
(Allegedly the choir was full of convicted child molesters, posted their sex offender lists entries.)
Tweet looks like it's been removed, and the account suspended.
Archive is pretty much worthless because archives don't do videos, but here: https://archive.vn/GYTgz
You can still watch it their pedo cheerleading here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/0CArbDxTl1wg/
That truck tried to warn us last month when it ran over several of their Florida counterparts.
I listened to that song, it sounds like they are indirectly confessing to promoting extremist ideologies and conspiracy theories to children.
I should also note that I believe that the talk in the video about "the gay agenda" is nothing but extremist taunting.
I wonder how many sex offenders are in the orchestra.
If this is the same "we're coming for your children" people the answer is a lot.
It has been looked into... The answer may surprise you! It wasn't "every single one of them". Only one or two of them were convicted child rapists. Sex offenders in general a bit higher.
But I mean, take any group of 20 random people and you're going to get 10% child rapists, right? That's definitely the crime rate for that crime, 10% of the population, right? Clearly there's no other factors that might be at play in this group that could lead to an astronomically-higher-than-predicted amount of rapists, it's just a group that sings multiple times about how good sexually grooming children is for them.
how many mottes and baileys like this must we as a civilization go through until we realize the very ground they stand on is corrupt in the first place?
gays got rights one time in history, 50-odd-years later they're putting this shit out and raping kids in the background. should we reset and try again, try the scientific method, see if they end up raping kids again?
There was some completely dishonest reporting by journalists on this song :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdliW2KbLcM
Lauren Chen only played the first half of the sentence in her video. Lauren Chen Played :
"We'll convert your children...."
"We're coming for your children...."
And cut off the ends of the sentence : "...to teach them not to hate" "... to make them tolerant and fair"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zldqMkbsgjw
Daisy Cousins by contrast played the whole sentence.
These guys included registered child molesters (under the age 14).
If true that is important information - but it doesn't justify the obscene editing lauren chen and others used when showing the song
Cutting it for efficiency and effect makes no difference to the real point that was sung. Teaching "not to hate, being tolerant and fair" doesn't mean those words. It means indoctrination.
When the left talks about "teach them not to hate", they're literally talking about anti-capitalism, Frankfurt school Marxism, and submission to tyranny. Don't be deliberately obtuse.
possibly - but that's you mind reading their intentions
They've made their intentions clear as day for years now, as someone else said, you're either willfully ignorant or complicit, which is it?
Am I the only one here who was NOT offended by the song?
They sang roughly :
“we’re coming for your children…. to teach them not to hate”
completely smug and based on the false premise that queer agenda is not rooted in hate.
But - they did NOT say they would convert anybody to being gay or have any kind of sexual relationships
Subtext is important, and you're falling into the brainwashing trap that led us here to this point, (hence why other users downvoted you).
The reality is that there is ZERO reason homosexuals should be singing about TEACHING kids anything, because the entire point of why they are defined as homosexuals deals with the fact that men have sex with men and women have sex with women.
WHY should they be teaching kids about anything to do with their lifestyle, even if it's "not to hate"? WHY should kids even know about the lifestyle of same-sex intercourse? WHY?!
That's the fundamental problem anyone with common sense has. But before you can arrive at that point you have to stop looking at everything from the lens of Left-wing acceptance, and first ask the very basic question of WHY homosexuality and teaching kids about accepting their lifestyle is something that should even be promoted?
I don't buy it anymore. This is not exactly equivalent, but similar to the motte-and-bailey shit they are pulling when advocating for other extreme positions. Maybe someone smarter than me knows a word for it.
Every small tongue-in-cheek joke on the right is a dog whistle for people who in reality want to implement the fourth reich. On the other side it was of course irony, sarcasm, obvious humor, when the backlash becomes to great.
"Don't you get a joke? It is really about teaching love and tolerance. How can you be against teaching kids about love and tolerance (and Grindr)?" These people are not stupid. This is a calculated provocation, and they know it.
Good to see that they are still unable not to gloat, though.
I've been considering this a lot recently: hate is now a forbidden emotion. This is the groundwork of emotional manipulation (perhaps even abuse). The implication is that experiencing this emotion is a sin and must be avoided at all costs. The why is in the face of their words, believing that hatred is the devil of emotion - as if no wrong action may be performed in absence of hatred.
I don't know the big brain term for this, though.
If I ever bothered to talk to such people, I might try explaining the value of hatred to them, just to see how they react. Having their premise rejected is not what they're expecting - they're expecting you to argue on their grounds by associating a particular emotion with an unrelated idea. It's almost as if they need you to do this to upkeep their own dogma.
From the left's paradigm, you're totally aloud to hate people with the wrong opinions, who vote the wrong way, or have the wrong sex or skin color.
Though, to be fair to your premise, they don't qualify any of that as hate.
Your hate is evil and wrong, our hate is the normal actions of righteous people
Interesting observation. But do you maybe mean anger instead of hate? Hate is a very crude emotion. Maybe appropriate if someone smugly insinuates grooming children. But hate is not very useful, since it is usually self-destructive. You know, like "don't care what happens as long as I take the other bastard with me." Anger as a creative masculine emotion is definetly forbidden now. I wonder if there is some form of psychological damage, if one is conditioned to always suppress or deny anger.
And there is a lot more emotional(?) manipulation going on. Opponents of mainstream ideas are either fearful in an irrational way (transphobia, homophobia, islamophobia,...), or they are dangerous because they cannot control their hate. It cannot be doubt, dislike, scepticism, antipathy, distrust, aversion, disgust,... something that a more or less rational thought process has lead you to. It must either be fear or hate. Same linguistic impoverishment, but the other way around, for love. There is only one kind of love. Everything that feels good is love. Lust is love. Fucking children is "teaching them how to love." And since we are against 'love', it must be that we are mad with hate.
I think every negative emotion has a potential benefit. At the least, noticing a hatred response to some stimuli can provide you with knowledge of your own beliefs. Of course, if you act on this feeling, you're likely to suffer because you likely live in a civil society. Civility gives a lot of great stuff, but it is not kind to primitive impulses. If you live like an ape in the woods, then relying on emotion and instinct probably becomes more useful.
One of the last useful things I ever saw on /pol/ was "hatred is the immune system of the soul". I agree with it, after translating it to "hatred shows you when and where your deepest most foundational principles have been violated". Despite our civil advances, I don't believe most of our populace could be considered philosophical enough to not have need of this data.
I'm broken enough to confirm this. Do not develop a habit of bottling up your anger. That will fucking break you and you won't see it coming. You'll think you're doing just fine until it's too late. It either seeps out in small bits every day, or it explodes all at once.
You can ignore hatred because it's just a view of your personal boundaries. Worst that should happen is you stop noticing when your boundaries change. Anger comes more from injustice, so failing to handle it gradually teaches you that you cannot expect justice from your world - people can be very dangerous when they expect everything to go wrong. I'm no emotion expert though, so I can't say much about the areas where hatred and anger overlap.
I agree with everything else you said. Wasn't sure if I should touch on any of it since I assume most people here are familiar with the villainy that can be found so easily now. I suppose I should respect the success of emotions as an attack vector, but I do despise it - I just hope our society develops some cultural antibody to it in the future.
A choir full of convicted sex offenders wanting to groom kids? I am shocked /s