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49 Jewish Groups Including ADL Call For Biden To Put ‘Pathway to Citizenship’ For Illegals In Spending Bill (nationalfile.com)
posted 4 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 4 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +80 / -0
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– Ahaus667 51 points 4 years ago +51 / -0

I want people to remember that based off of the most recent studies it is likely there are between 22 and 30 million illegal immigrants and around 14 million anchor babies. That’s over a tenth of the census population and the representative equivalency higher than any state population. They dragged them here to make blue bastions, now they want to entrench their votes. There is no rational reason these people should be allowed to stay and is an active act of aggression from foreign countries send people here.

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– deleted 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0
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– EJGeneric PRO 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Explains why Biden is smuggling all these refugees into red states overnight 'to deal with overflow'. They will be taken care of over White children in need. They children will be reunited with their 'parents' and aunts and uncles, etc. and become basically paid foreign actors who are paid to be here through public benefits and cash payments.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't even disagree. Repatriation isn't a terrible idea. Thing is, we probably don't even need to do that if we have a better immigration system, and enforce the shit we already have.

The most effective deportation program is: a recession.

Well, the planet's about to have a global economic catastrophe, so just close the door behind them.

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– Ahaus667 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

What people fail to realize is that economically illegal immigrants are disastrous. The constant negative revenue cycle combined with ever expanding government spending on illegal immigrants is draining communities that would otherwise thrive.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's theoretically possible to make an argument that some kind of very specific illegal immigration could be good, but there's a reason why we have immigration controls in the first place. The borders are there, because people weaponize humans.

Put it like this. I'm a pretty huge supporter of the 2nd amendment. Even if you have a tank, that's fine by me. However, if I saw a line of privately owned tanks rolling down the road, that's hugely alarming. I might even argue that it's legitimate to engage them with force depending on what they are doing.

The nature of collectivism is that the only reason you do it is to overcome individual resistance, because you've rejected the voluntary agreement between you and another person, so the collective can coerce them into compliance. Collectivism is, in and of itself, hostile intent. Even if they haven't acted, the only reason you collectivize yourselves into a force, is to overwhelm your opponent, whether they know it or not.

A border exists because that collectivism may need to be met with some force to rebuff it. Illegal immigration works exactly the same way. The number of individuals who are being gladly welcomed into the US by other individuals, while coming with the support of many other individuals, and then integrating into a community is relatively small.

Instead, we have the mass importation of voters and corporate slaves so that power can be enshrined to systems, rather than individuals. A public corporation, with no accountability to any particular person, with massive protections from the state, is allowed to construct slave plantations for foreigners on American soil, regardless of the consequences to the local population.

And slavery is identical to mass migration programs. It is one. The consequences of slavery were stunting to the individual Southerners (and to the southern economy generally), who just like today, were priced out from being competitive labor markets by people who thought themselves noble for 'civilizing savages'.

Even the concept of a massive spending for welfare is the same. While slaves were treated badly, it doesn't change the fact that slaves were also insanely expensive, and that Masters spent huge volumes of money on populations of people who had no incentive to work or improve, and were playacted with a welfare system that only differed from the current era by being privately funded. At least to a degree considering the subsidization of the plantation owners anyway.

All the wealth of a community, concentrated into a ruling aristocracy, protected by the state, that imported massive swaths of humanity to maintain their power and control, all while telling everyone that they were doing it for the greater good of everyone involved.

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– TheModernDaVinci 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The consequences of slavery were stunting to the individual Southerners (and to the southern economy generally), who just like today, were priced out from being competitive labor markets by people who thought themselves noble for 'civilizing savages'.

I think a lot of people forget about this about the Slavery debate during its own time. I know I brought up with you before my states history of Bleeding Kansas where we started shooting people trying to force us to become a Slave State against our will when we wanted to be a Free State. Well, what doesnt get talked about a lot is that the people who were actually abolitionist were a fairly tiny amount of the population here, and were generally regarded as the fringe crazies who were unstable and itching for a fight (and to be fair, the Abolitionist movement spawned the nations first domestic terrorist in the form of John Brown).

But the overwhelming majority of the state was Free-Soilers, not out of any sort of desire to see blacks liberated from Slavery. Most didnt care. It was 100% a case of "You expect me and my farmstead to compete with some mega-plantation running on free labor?! Fat chance!"

Additionally, for all the talk the Black Supremist types have about how "Our ancestors built this country in chains!", America during the time of Southern slavery was a global backwater, and the South itself was woefully behind the times (Insert Sherman's Pre-Civil War speech in Louisiana here). It wasnt until after the end of the Civil War and Slavery, as well as a few decades to shake off the rust, that the US became the powerhouse it would eventually become. So quite the opposite, their ancestors were merely here, and had little to do with the nations rise, other than they were part of the rise because they could work like most others.

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– deleted 44 points 4 years ago +44 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

Good news is that Israel may start to be ruined starting this Sunday when they oust Bibi. The coalition replacing him includes not only centrists and right wingers but full blown socialists and even Arabs. We may finally see them rot from the inside. A little bit of happy news for the goys.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

From the river to the sea.

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– orangemangood2 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Israeli Jews and American Jews have extremely different political views. Orthodox American Jews are very conservative, as well. It's not a monolith.

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– BetterDays 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

The ADL are American jews, yet they have gone to bat for Israel's immigration laws citing, ironically, the risk of population replacement. They have also consistently advocated for easing US immigration restrictions while branding concerns of population replacement white supremacist conspiracy theories.

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– orangemangood2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No, the ADL is a leftist organization, much like the Southern Poverty Law. Israeli Jews and orthodox American Jews are very conservative. They’re not a monolith.

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– letia 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Sorry if one cannot take your word for it when things like this constantly happen

https://archive.is/ovLan

https://ibb.co/TB52TRy

https://ibb.co/cTVFqK0

https://ibb.co/sJ6Pb1n

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– orangemangood2 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Nice cherry pick. I can do the same for people like the Marxist Pope, Raphael Warnock, Bill Gates, Joe Biden. See how easy that works?

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– letia 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

lol "cherry picking" says the guy who does nothing but shill for jews on every forum.

The pope is from a family of accountants that had to flee fascist italy. hmmmm

Bill gates mother is a banker jew

Joe Biden's kids are all married to jews , Karmala is married to one too and Biden's cabinet looks like this https://ibb.co/FqJ75Vw

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– orangemangood2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nice job dodging literally everything lol. Nope, these people are all Christians, born and raised and still are. It's very to cherry pick, when you have an agenda. You're the one who's trying to make a group of people into a monolith, when it's demonstrably false.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You are being manipulated by the Irish!

https://i.imgur.com/PsThPgG.jpg

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– letia 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

LOL irish... sureeee. keep seething JIDF

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://i.imgur.com/pCboc0k.jpg

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– BetterDays 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Lol. Sure, any population sample large enough is not monolithic - including "Israeli Jews", a coalition of which are in the middle of deposing Netanyahu. And yes, many of them are leftist.

Furthermore, the ADL absolutely did defend Israel's stance on immigration. The essay "Response To Common Inaccuracy: Bi-National/One-State Solution" used what is now referred to as the Great Replacement theory to do so. That is, before it became politically convenient to brand it a white nationalist, anti-semitic conspiracy theory like the duplicitous pieces of shit that they are.

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– orangemangood2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The vast majority of Israelis are right-winged. In fact, being called a leftist is a slur in Israel. I believe around 8% of the population identifies as a leftist. So yes, Israel is an extremely right-winged country.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– donaldthrow 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Adam Carolla used to say there's 2 breeds, the North American Domesticated Jew and the Israeli Krav-Maga Jew.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

the Israeli Krav-Maga Jew.

National service and constant threat of attack from neighbours makes for a rather hardy people as it turns out. Good for them.

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– letia 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

https://archive.is/ovLan

https://ibb.co/TB52TRy

https://ibb.co/cTVFqK0

https://ibb.co/sJ6Pb1n

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– orangemangood2 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That’s true and I definitely agree.Though I’d split up the North American type by religious and atheist, as their values are also completely different

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– orangemangood2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I said Orthodox Jews and Israeli Jews are

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

It is all so tiresome.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Why did you share fake news?

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Bruh

This piece was written by Patrick Howley.

Patrick Howley is one of the few real journalists remaining.

He is responsible for the story about Cheating Cal which prevented the Democrats from winning the North Carolina senate seat in 2020. Patrick Howley also got the scoop on Biden's daughter's diary.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Then he needs to improve his journalistic skill by showing receipts. This is amateur level of BS.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

How about giving them a pathway to citizenship in Israel?

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– nankingRoastie 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I got a pathway to citizenship. Dont come to US, pay the 50,000 required dollars, and take the tests on constitutional values.

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– RealDrJester 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Where did they hear this and what are the 49 groups? It only mentions 1! This seems to be Buzz feed and kotaku level of journalism. Narrative, narrative, narrative and above all else, narrative. This is why I avoid websites like these for news. They don't care about giving the news, only narrative. This is why i only visit kotaku, or Buzz feed or similar websites for lolz and nothing else.

EDIT:

The journalist sucks, he needs to show his receipts, but, just like the writer of the article, the idiots behind this petition were also less than honest. They used their local chapter(creators of the petition) to pump up their numbers. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hHWg9yl30Q4-m-zrTbSY8nNXZOHSEqYU/view

In other news, still a nothing burger, and I admit being partially wrong.

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– Poultryarchy 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Literally 10 seconds of searching 'Bend the Arc pathway to citizenship'.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Link to me the full document. I found the website, some mention of some Jewish groups, but never the full 49 list, and mention of other groups that seems to allude not to be Jewish.

EDIT: You should have led with this. 49 ain't it. They pumped the numbers by using their own local chapters https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hHWg9yl30Q4-m-zrTbSY8nNXZOHSEqYU/view

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– Poultryarchy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty sure I don't have to lead with anything, given that you should be able to parse a press release for the actual letter they sent, particularly when they link the letter in brackets which say 'Click here to read the letter from Jewish organizations to the White House'.

But hey, if you want to talk numbers, let's talk numbers: 20/49 are national organizations, and of the state/regional/local, only 12/49 are the local chapters of Bend the Arc. If you like, let's exclude those 12 local chapters, so only 37 national/state groups of indeterminate size, yet who claim in their letter to represent millions, are advocating for the subversion of US immigration law on the basis of their religion/history. Precise enough for you?

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Are those organizations responsible or completely representt all Jews? If so, i am 100% certain southern poverty law represent all white people. Remember those Jews are also American citizens.

Plus, the author of the original article muddied the water with his selective article and lack of citation.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I tried to find theie supposed quote (in various ways) anywhere else but couldn't.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I couldn't find it either, which means the entire thing is very likely fake.

The sad part is, many here are eating this fake news like a fat kid in a candy shop.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

This is not fake!

Look at this

https://archive.is/WYC6T

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Where are the 49? Why do they still not link the full document? So I can confirm those 49 Jewish groups. I still can't find any document that has the exact quote quoted by the article. I searched it with duck duck go, and google. Neither found it, just the two news articles by the same author on ussa and national file website.

EDIT:

The journalist sucks, he needs to show his receipts, but, just like the writer of the article, the idiots behind this petition were also less than honest. They used their local chapter(creators of the petition) to pump up their numbers. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hHWg9yl30Q4-m-zrTbSY8nNXZOHSEqYU/view

In other news, still a nothing burger, and I admit being partially wrong.

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– realerfunction 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

destroy all ngos

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– deleted 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0
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– SupremeReader 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Arabs are over 20% of citizens (not including Palestinians).

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– when_we_win_remember 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

True, but they'd never let them turn it into a Muslim state, or even a multicultural one that puts Islam on an even footing (not that the thing is possible over there, anyways). Whereas we're supposed to be multicultural.

I don't make the mistake of assuming Jews are a monolith, but the ones that are pro-immigration do seem to make the most noise. Of course it also kind of makes sense for Jews to take this position, themselves being perpetual outsiders.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

True, but they'd never let them turn it into a Muslim state, or even a multicultural one that puts Islam on an even footing (not that the thing is possible over there, anyways).

Israel seems to be the instruction manual on how to handle large ethnic minority populations: you make those fuckers loyal or you throw them out.

That aside, yes, the pro-immigration (usually internationalist with megabucks) Jews really don't do "their people" (if they even, truly, see them that way) any favours. Very loud, very annoying, and have rather disastrous policies.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

pro-immigration (usually internationalist with megabucks)

For sure, and that's why I wonder, when people point out that 40% or something of Jews are Republicans, if any agree with me. I get the impression that not really. I mean there are individuals that I agree with but not any self-identified Jewish groups that I'm aware of. That is not unique to Jews. There are precious few groups representing, say, Muslims and blacks that I agree with.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

There are many Israelis and especially foreign Jews who want the one state solution for the Palestinians.

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– Assassin47 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How would that work?

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Israel annexes West Bank and Gaza Strips, all the "refugees" return from Lebanon and Jordan and Syria, all Arabs get citizenship.

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– Assassin47 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What happens to PLA and Hamas?

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The PLA doesn't really exist any longer, dissolved into a numbe of the loyalist Palestinian militias in Syria.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well, then I disagree with them, lol. They'd be destroyed.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

(Not the ADL though.)

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