Wanted to talk about this because two recent occurrences are the perfect examples.
1.The black army officer who got pulled over and pepper sprayed. This smug ass clown did countless things wrong, intentionally and repeatedly and the police handled it almost perfectly despite how he was behaving. In watching the full video you can see the officers gradually de-escalate force from gun to taser to pepper spray, all while he continues to argue and resist.
Last I checked one of the officers was already fired and the smug "victim" had an appointment with the governor to talk police reform.
2.Recent shooting everyone's talking about. Still waiting on details but in this case looks like the female officer accidentally shot the poor innocent resisting arrest good boy.
So basically:
-Constant, vicious propaganda war against police.
-Even when police do everything right they can still get their lives ruined if the criminal is black.
-Brianwash blacks into thinking cops are "hunting them in the streets".
-Now both blacks and cops are on edge from the start.
-Cops having to decide between self defense now or getting publicly crucified later if criminal is black.
-Cops who see this move away from black areas or retire; why would any even slightly intelligent cop ever risk policing around black populations?
-Leftover diversity hire accidentally shoots dindu-nuffin when she meant to taser.
-Cycle continues to get worse and worse.
Just needed to vent about this really. Manufactured and tiresome. What do you guys think?
I’m not particularly a big fan of the police myself. In their eyes every non-uniform is a potential lawbreaker, and they’ll gladly turn (into more of a) jackbooted thug the moment the state allows them to.
Of course, it’s getting to the point where anyone who could be considered a decent police officer is actively leaving the job. That’s only going to create conditions to allow for more agreeable class of thug to take their place.
Yes that was part of my intended point; first only the incompetent/unqualified remain. Then after that the ranks will likely refill with people far worse.
There is no one to stop your second amendment right without the police.
I agree. But they don't have to be collectively good as an institution for their subversion and decline to be bad overall.
No kidding, it's their job to enforce the law.
Don't like the law? Sue the government or vote them out.
These jackbooted thugs will follow orders even if it meant shooting unarmed children or elderly.
When voting is rigged in key swing states, how the fuck do you vote them out on a national level? Local politics only gets you so far.
I am a right wing populist who despises these racial marxist groups like BLM, Antifa but I am also not a fan of the blue after they demonstrated how they will follow any tyrannical order without hesistation. The right should not be baited into blindly backing the blue just because marxists attack them.
The right fell for it hook line and sinker when blm started in 14. Before there, both the left and the right was talking about demilitarizing the police, then it became a race issue instead of a bipartisan issue
Most people are livestock. You can't be angry that people act like people. The monopoly on violence will be enforced by the same stock of people under any other system.
You’re mistaken, mostly because you probably haven’t had the luxury of a red or purple sheriff/police force. The jackboots shooting kids and unarmed people are always in the blue cities. The police in blue areas are a product of blue policies.
Dude I lived in a red county in a red state for years and I have seen the same fucking police tyranny that I see in blue states.
Police in general exist to protect the elites and their property not the general public. They should not be falsely seen as heroes who protect and serve.
This is one of the reasons why I call myself a right wing populist and not a conservative.
Too many conservatives still have a hard on for blindly backing the blue.
I don't support defunding the police like the retard marxists do but I don't support the existence of no knock warrants, traffic tickets quotas and red flag gun grabs which the cops do in every state.
Odd, in my experience I have had multiple sheriffs defy governor orders in my state MI. From guns to lockdowns, I do believe that police need a massive overhaul to rid the parasitic practices implemented, but the majority of these can be fixed with an actual sheriff elected and local government afraid of their constituents.
I'm not a fan of the police in general, but sheriffs are okay for the most part. In many (I won't say most because I haven't done the research) states sheriffs only answer to the people and generally cannot be impeached or removed by a government body. So if the government decides to lockdown they can just say fuck that and not enforce it and nothing can be done about it. It's really the most American type of law enforcement.
I'm not for police abolishment, but more of a lessening/removal of the city, state, and federal police and a growth of the sheriffs departments. The police should answer to the people directly. Make some bullshit law? Ok, the police won't enforce it. Get past that, nullify it in the jury box. We still have rules that protect us but they aren't used most of the time.
Which makes sense, if the police become horrendous then the people can voice that action through the sheriff’s election, once police become part of the city is always where I see the issues.
For example look at Ohio in the last year and you will see how it was just like a blue state.
Demilitarizing the police is the much needed solution to the problems with police.
I agree with you that we need to ensure local government is afraid of constituents and respects constituents.
Ohio is a blue state, Akron, Cincinnati, and other blue hubs are pretty much like Baltimore as far as crime goes.
We had some sheriffs try in WA. In one case the governor said "don't worry: if you can't do your job the State Police will do it for you". In another case the DA told the sheriff they'd lose their qualified immunity "in the event 'someone'" (hint hint) filed a lawsuit against them for failing to enforce the executive order. Both caved.
Hell the Republican who ran against our governor back in November was a cop, and surprise surprise immediately after the governor was re-elected he was "laid off".
Still a lot of knobs other governmental agencies can turn to get a rogue sheriff who has the nerve to take their oath seriously back with the program.
So, sounds like those sheriffs are undeserving of their position, and didn’t have the will of the people behind their back.
Weakness begets weakness.
Wasn't Ruby Ridge in red Oregon at that time.
Idaho
That's such a naive statement I'm going to guess you are still a school-going child.
Police are mercenaires for the established political system. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not about law. Laws are selectively enforced and selectively punished. It's about power and subduing the population.
there is no law, only "executive orders"
A well-funded cabal manipulating the flow of information and changing laws so we can have the proper voting results...
Except they often selectively enforce the law.
I think the police have done a pretty good job destroying their own credibility over the past year, arresting grandma for sitting on the beach and standing by while antifa beats the shit out of people attending "back the blue" rallies.
When the race riots started almost a year ago I said "Unlike grandma BLM and antifa fight back. Good luck with that". So far I haven't seen any reason to change that assessment.
honk
It just amazes me how much of a blatant victory lap that article was. It doesn’t even try to hide the fact that the wealthy and powerful literally subverted the will of the general populace.
Nuance is lost these days because of the left's insistence on acting on their TDS and a hyperpolarization political climate.
I agree with your stance.
Black people have pretty much been given a blank check to do whatever the fuck they want to white people without any fear of serious reprisal, and cops are too terrified/pussyfied to do anything about it.
They’ll happily smash your grandma’s face in for not wearing a mask or show up at your front door and shoot you in front of your kids if an anonymous tip tells them you have a gun or are acting erratically(and aren’t black) but if you or someone you love is getting peacefully protested then they’re happy to sit back and wait for their pensions.
And now he got a Latino cop fired while demanding 1 million dollars.
For resisting arrest and being a clown.
I forgot about the lawsuit part, that makes it even worse. If you watch the video he took on his cell phone at a couple points you can see he looks smug when the police are yelling for literally like the 15th time for him to put his hands out of his car window and he still hasn't done it yet.
That’s also indicative of the caliber of officer that currently leads the rank and file in our modern military.
With that caliber of leader, eoe be to our Armed Forces if they have to do anything beyond fighting goat herders or making a show of “protecting” our capitol from the “white supremacist hordes”.
Anarcho-tyranny
women should not be cops, or in any combat or physical role.
That last part is very true, the "Black people are taught that a cop is just itching to murder". Good people are easily swayed by enough aggressively targeted and edited data if it plays into fears. My folks taught me, if ever getting robbed, to move very slowly and smoothly, do what is told, and just leave later. Literally more sane advice for a violent criminal than someone who wants to see a piece of paper you keep in the glove box who may give you a ticket for going 40 in a 25.
It creates an atmosphere of edge and distrust, and at this point there is no salvaging the relationship, no matter how many "Just follow these 50 steps" the police bow down to.
A pox on both their houses. BLM are terrorists. And I was supportive of cops till they turned into a bunch of jack outs for lockdowns and started arresting trump supporters for shit leftists would be allowed to get away with. Now they can go to he'll with their blm buddies. They deserve each other.
To be fair, leftists should've been going to jail a long time ago. But yeah, once they just started turning a blind eye to Antifa riots is when I started going 'Okay, maybe vigilante justice needs to start making a comeback until they remember why we agreed to outsource violence a long time ago.'
It's easier to just point and laugh at all this bull sometimes.
I think Richard J. Daley had the right idea.
Also, keep in mind all this insanity drives anybody with descency away from LEO careers, leaving mostly psychopaths to fill the ranks.
I need some Trump to make the pain go away. I need some REEEEE.