This kind of shit is so painful to watch. I wonder if all these places have a lone, frustrated shitlord in the corner, trying to warn everyone that they really are out to get them.
I'd feel better about their naivety if there was some sort of end goal / positive outcome from this, i.e. accountability for our technological overlords, but it seems unlikely. At best, if it does somehow happen, it'll probably be a happy coincidence rather than "as planned".
Absolutely. I meant that those opposed to the monopolies of these tech giants, but still used these fucking platforms despite knowing the risks, had any plan once they got predictably banned.
I won't hold my breath on Zuckerberg or anyone else who lied under oath actually being held accountable.
I meant that those opposed to the monopolies of these tech giants, but still used these fucking platforms despite knowing the risks, had any plan once they got predictably banned.
Yeah, they're acting as if it's all still a regular day in free merica. It's not though, it's like inverse McCarthyism, or Statsi-ism I guess.
Maybe I need to order a copper landline again, might need it right? If they even sell them anymore.
If I were to make a new platform for free speech I'd trust it on Yandex Cloud before I'd go to Amazon. Or hell, at least go to Microsoft where they seem to like to collect money more than they like political statements.
I'd almost do that for fun. I wish I still had my old short wave radio from when I was a kid. It was just a receiver. I looked a few months ago and those things are pricey now.
There's still enough old people that copper lines still are a thing. And if you don't have them, Universal Access laws might still require the phone company install them where you live.
Years ago I remember reading a story from someone who had tried for years to get the phone company to install copper for DSL, and they wouldn't do it. Eventually he found someone who told him "order phone service, then cancel it once they run the copper and get DSL". Sure enough that did the trick.
I don't know about Yandex Cloud, but their search engine is pretty decent. I moved to Bing years ago after Google went to shit, but I've been using Yandex search more and more lately and have been impressed.
Yeah I use it from time to time and a few of their other things too. Translate and image search are also both decent.
If you want to be totally immune to leftists, Yandex will certainly fit that bill. Just don't criticize the Russian government too much and you're good to go.
I can't imagine a platform that's been marketing itself as a place for deplorables doesn't have some kind of plan for this. On the other hand, we've seen services like this caught with their pants down before so I guess we'll see.
Yeah, Parler's leadership seem to be indicating they can work around this. Bitchute, Gab and Subscribestar have managed to survive and thrive without big tech supporting them. I don't doubt Parler can probably do the same.
Amazon is willing to drag the AWS brand through the mud for this? If they boot Parler off now, when are they going to start booting off businesses if an employee makes the wrong tweet?
Yes. Those same business will also face federal anti-terrorism investigations and a suspension of all of their financial transactions through banks and payment processors.
Someone on TDW had a good idea to give Amazon the finger: figure out what the FREE-returns policy is for your local Amazon, order something (sold by Amazon directly and not a 3rd party) and return it.
How is it going to take an hour? Find out what's got free returns (probably the most time intensive part), order it, print a return label and drop it off when you pass a post office the next time.
It's also going to cost Amazon a lot more. On top of the shipping costs both ways, there's packaging and handling and more importantly restocking the item. If you're lucky it gets sent to Amazon's "Warehouse" where it'll get sold at a discount or they'll even liquidate it for pennies on the dollar (they do that with a lot of returns apparently).
If even a fraction of the people who complain about Amazon here, on TDW, Parler, Gab, Twitter, etc did that it would have a considerable impact.
If you've got a better way to fight back against Amazon in this cold civil war I'd like to hear it.
It's split across multiples, if I'm reading correctly they've been dropped by one host already. If you're interested in digging around old posts u/Doggos is the main dev of the site and primarily posts on TD, since well it was the beginning of this anyway. He's posted a lot of different updates but it's hard to sift through since he gets beat up a lot lately by paranoid people for having any rules at all, even things like "don't post child porn."
My opinion, he's totally legit and upfront about a lot of details and puts a lot of sweat and blood into making the site and keeping it alive. But I'd never expect anyone to take my opinion as fact.
If they were solely reliant on AWS and don't have a backup plan already, then well, that was just really piss poor planning.
Seems like they all have to learn that lesson.
RETVRN TO TRADITION
This kind of shit is so painful to watch. I wonder if all these places have a lone, frustrated shitlord in the corner, trying to warn everyone that they really are out to get them.
I'd feel better about their naivety if there was some sort of end goal / positive outcome from this, i.e. accountability for our technological overlords, but it seems unlikely. At best, if it does somehow happen, it'll probably be a happy coincidence rather than "as planned".
The goal is the elimination of political opposition.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/11RhTiogiK/history-2018-twitter-ceo-jack-do/c/ [history] 2018: Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey shared post for a single-party state of America. 2021: #walkaway campaign & staff deleted from Facebook
Absolutely. I meant that those opposed to the monopolies of these tech giants, but still used these fucking platforms despite knowing the risks, had any plan once they got predictably banned.
I won't hold my breath on Zuckerberg or anyone else who lied under oath actually being held accountable.
Yeah, they're acting as if it's all still a regular day in free merica. It's not though, it's like inverse McCarthyism, or Statsi-ism I guess.
Accountability will only come from resolute individuals acting outside the bounds of the law sadly.
Now they can learn the hard way.
Maybe I need to order a copper landline again, might need it right? If they even sell them anymore.
If I were to make a new platform for free speech I'd trust it on Yandex Cloud before I'd go to Amazon. Or hell, at least go to Microsoft where they seem to like to collect money more than they like political statements.
I've actually been thinking of building a radio set into the back of my van.
I'd almost do that for fun. I wish I still had my old short wave radio from when I was a kid. It was just a receiver. I looked a few months ago and those things are pricey now.
TOR. I2P. Crypto.
Forget optics and respectiability. To be a conservative in America is to be equal to a criminal. Go dark.
Phone is harder to cancel since it legally is Common Carrier. Of course they could change that, but it would be a change.
There's still enough old people that copper lines still are a thing. And if you don't have them, Universal Access laws might still require the phone company install them where you live.
Years ago I remember reading a story from someone who had tried for years to get the phone company to install copper for DSL, and they wouldn't do it. Eventually he found someone who told him "order phone service, then cancel it once they run the copper and get DSL". Sure enough that did the trick.
Give it time. Microsoft activist employees will probably push to block website access at the os level in an update
I don't know about Yandex Cloud, but their search engine is pretty decent. I moved to Bing years ago after Google went to shit, but I've been using Yandex search more and more lately and have been impressed.
Yeah I use it from time to time and a few of their other things too. Translate and image search are also both decent.
If you want to be totally immune to leftists, Yandex will certainly fit that bill. Just don't criticize the Russian government too much and you're good to go.
I can't imagine a platform that's been marketing itself as a place for deplorables doesn't have some kind of plan for this. On the other hand, we've seen services like this caught with their pants down before so I guess we'll see.
[Archive] Statement from CEO of Parler as of 100300ZJAN21
iirc Parler said "oh we can't recover since our servers are on amazon" on tv.
Imagine my shock as Parler got nuked.
F
Yeah, Parler's leadership seem to be indicating they can work around this. Bitchute, Gab and Subscribestar have managed to survive and thrive without big tech supporting them. I don't doubt Parler can probably do the same.
Slightly confusing update: They are anticipating <12 hours of downtime, but are telling people to come back Tuesday. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Companies will ask these questions and receive the answer "If you aren't a fascist you've got nothing to fear"
Where have I heard that before?
"Why are you afraid of Obama using drones for the extrajudicial assassinations of US citizens? You're not a terrorist are you?"
"Who cares about the Patriot Act? If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
Everybody has something to hide. Hiding something isn't illegal itself.
Those quotation marks in the post above are less cringe /s.
Bush (R) is dumb Hitler!
Obama (D) is a hero, he never droned anyone, leftist CNN never said anything bad about him!
Trump (R) is Hitler!
Normalfags see it as "deplatforming white domestic terrorists"
How would it impact Amazon negatively? In fact, this bolsters Amazons reputation.
It's also a risk to be vaguely associated with "MAGA white terrorists".
The engineers might want uptime, the boss wants good optics with BLM.
They don't view it as such, and chances are, neither do any of their major competitors (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Oracle, IBM).
The company already does ideological censorship, especially their retail business. This is nothing new.
Yes. Those same business will also face federal anti-terrorism investigations and a suspension of all of their financial transactions through banks and payment processors.
They are seizing full control.
I still don't know how these work.
Acceleration and escalation.
Someone on TDW had a good idea to give Amazon the finger: figure out what the FREE-returns policy is for your local Amazon, order something (sold by Amazon directly and not a 3rd party) and return it.
While BLM gets themselves 5 finger discounts at Amazon stores despite Amazon cucking to them.
Quaint.
The problem with this plan is that an hour of my time is worth more than the $5 amazon loses to do this.
How is it going to take an hour? Find out what's got free returns (probably the most time intensive part), order it, print a return label and drop it off when you pass a post office the next time.
It's also going to cost Amazon a lot more. On top of the shipping costs both ways, there's packaging and handling and more importantly restocking the item. If you're lucky it gets sent to Amazon's "Warehouse" where it'll get sold at a discount or they'll even liquidate it for pennies on the dollar (they do that with a lot of returns apparently).
If even a fraction of the people who complain about Amazon here, on TDW, Parler, Gab, Twitter, etc did that it would have a considerable impact.
If you've got a better way to fight back against Amazon in this cold civil war I'd like to hear it.
[Archive] Statement from CEO of Parler as of 100300ZJAN21
Check out how Buzzfeed headlines this: https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/1348083491112554498
I wonder who the hosting provider for this site is. If it's not self-hosted, being yeet-ed seems likely.
It's split across multiples, if I'm reading correctly they've been dropped by one host already. If you're interested in digging around old posts u/Doggos is the main dev of the site and primarily posts on TD, since well it was the beginning of this anyway. He's posted a lot of different updates but it's hard to sift through since he gets beat up a lot lately by paranoid people for having any rules at all, even things like "don't post child porn."
My opinion, he's totally legit and upfront about a lot of details and puts a lot of sweat and blood into making the site and keeping it alive. But I'd never expect anyone to take my opinion as fact.
"Don't like it? Build your own...uh...government?"
Well, we don't call them FAANG for nothing, right?
just build your own twitter....