I live in Texas but I’m seeing these Georgia results and I’m honestly shocked at how far left the south has shifted. I live in Texas which is red for now but I feel it will flip. I do think think a good portion of this has to do with people moving to red states. I’ll never understand people who move from blue states, complain about high taxes, and then vote for the same policies. Doesn’t help either that public schools are propaganda factories.
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Critical race theory brainwashing in academia and media happened.
Retarded youth who vote blue no matter what happened.
Cunt White suburban Karens who vote blue no matter what happened.
Demographic change where we are flooded with third worlders happened.
Third world style election fraud happened.
There's also the part companies moved into red states and brought their employees with them.
I live in a reddish state in a very blue area because of the companies that move here. I also work in what appears to be a majority blue industry. The worst part with all of these recruited or transplant employees that move here constantly hate on this state, talk about how much better CA, or some state up North is, and when I ask if they would ever consider taking a job in that state or moving back once they retire and it’s always the same reply. “Oh know the price of living and taxes is just too high there.” They then proceed to share their support whatever dumb new tax the county or city has for more public transportation so people in Adjacent towns can travel into ours via bus.... if the business they were doing made adding a bus route there beneficial we would not need to raise a tax for it.
You guys don't actually believe this election is fair, do you?
Basically this. Not only are the elections fraudulent, the fraud must be INSANE. A close 50-50 race in Georgia? Laughable. This is programmatically achieved. Then there is that spike again that flips everything.
bruh moment
It's our education system, really. Growing up and about to graduate from high school, seeing all of the changes in many school systems over the years (Navy brat) towards left leaning teachings has been boggling. People are too closed minded about politics, the bi-partisan government sets things up as 'teams' when that's not what the political parties are at all. That plus social media makes people not read anymore into things other than 'hurr durr, my side is right.' Plus the establishment's disgusting use of Pathos (argument by emotion) to sway people towards these stupid trains of thought. They'd rather live in poverty than admit the other side is possibly right in some situations.
The stuff people have already mentioned plus lots of voter fraud.
There's zero chance that Joe fucking Biden actually won PA, WI, MI or GA. (AZ and NV were probably stolen as well.)
Fear
Fear makes people reach out for someone to save them
Liberals say "I can save you from the bad scary virus" Conservatives say "you don't need saving"
I'm going to sound like another user here, but at the real core of it I blame feminism. Primarily when it got to the point that it drove men out of homes and created a bunch of kids growing up in single parent homes with little to no male influence.
Despite what you're supposed to believe anymore, men and women are different. Think about if a little kid playing and do something stupid and skin your knee. Come in crying and Dad says "yep you're still alive, maybe next time don't be so stupid". Mom on the other hand, "aww you poor baby, let me get you fixed up oh and you can't play outside like that anymore it's not safe you're going to get hurt". Yeah, I simplify things into cutesy little anecdote but the point is you're supposed to have different point of views growing up and these roles were built into how men and women were.
Now though, you've got a couple generations raised mostly by women that have only one side of the equation. It makes a huge group of bleeding hearts that are just oh so worried about rescuing people from all their atrocities with love and government assistance when what these people really need is to be told, "yep you're still alive, maybe next time don't be so stupid". Add in some politicians wanting power to sell this to them and here we are. You could see this in the debates with Biden this year, how many times did Biden turn to the camera and project his little pre-written sob stories about the empty chair at the dining table and how he can't just leave these poor helpless people for themselves, etc. Every time I saw that he was just ticking boxes in these huge groups of people's heads.
Extra bonus accelerants in the form of unwasted crisis viruses and election fraud, and here we are.
I don't doubt it. I was just thinking a few weeks ago about things I did as a kid and comparing with my nephew and some other kids I know. I was never some macho type either, I was the stereotypical sucky at sports computer nerd. Still, I was playing with hammers, nails, saws, knives, all kinds of stuff trying to build generally fruitless projects or whatever at least as young as 7 and often unsupervised.
If I hadn't had my dad or my grandfathers growing up, I have no idea what I would have turned out like but I have a feeling it's like a lot of these soy men. I'd never say my mother wouldn't have been well intentioned, but just that women aren't as well equipped to know when to let boys do boy things and when to let them solve their own problems and not swoop in and do it all for them.
I spoke at length with a young co-worker a few weeks ago. He confided in me that his family was awful - alcoholic unemployed parents, extended family in prison, shitty childhood, etc.
This dude is also massively leftist to the point where he supports UBI and most socialist policy. He's an otherwise intelligent and kind person, but his economic understanding is nonexistent.
I'm rambling, but the point is he supports far-left policy because he thinks the state can fill the void left by dysfunctional families. When I pointed out that these policies are paid for by successful families in the form of massive taxes, he had no response.
I don't believe most leftists are consciously trying to destroy families in order to create new left-wing voters, but I do think this is an unconsciously evolved strategy that generates a massively positive outcome for their movement.
Remember the narrative in the 90s that assigned textbooks in Texas that denied evolutionary theory were thrust upon an unwilling rest of America?
California and New York returned in kind tenfold.
Reasonable people ignored the brewing of cultural idiocy in universities around 10 year ago. This has bubbled over into society as a whole because the people warning about it were laughed off as doomsayers desperate for a negative story on the left. They were proven correct, and we are dealing with the consequences.
The left is very good at commanding the language of society. I have met so many people who don't seem to realize what they say, who have no idea how to defend their ideas beyond calling you a bigot, who only take pride in their positions because they're granted a false moral authority...
We have allowed a group of know-nothings to rise up because the social pressures on speaking like a fool in public were eased and even erased in many areas (work, school, social media) with censorship and threats of firing / discipline. Immunization to criticism allows social tyrants to run unchecked.
It will take a while for the "silent majority" to reach their boiling points and start speaking their minds in public again. As soon as that happens, we can be back to reasonable politics and perhaps a depoliticized country where we can enjoy things without bringing race, gender, and political struggles into them where they don't belong. I am just losing hope that will ever be possible.
The cultural Marxism really started 20 years ago. I went to college in the 90's and law school in the 2000's and when I went back I shocked to see how universities had changed and not for the better. Kids who were fresh graduates going on to law school had issues when confronted by differing opinions, which some of the law school professors would do for the sake of argument still at that time. At least the older professors. The younger ones were there to train and create activists.
My wife is in corporate law and 5 years ago was still "Oh they'll change when they get into the real world". Then the first millennials started to get elevated to the VP positions and began trying to implement this woke shit...at a trucking company.
My hope is some day, a lot of kids are going to grow up to resent how faggy and uptight their liberal parents are, and things will gradually straighten out.
It's very easy for comfortable people to become complacent and pathetic. Enlightenment principles aside, I think the American obsession with independence largely stems from our frontier days when we had to build an entire country from scratch. The more gaps on the map we fill in the less independent we need to be. Hard times create hard men, etc etc etc.
I expect we've got some very hard times coming. When push comes to shove the people best equipped to survive, say, a global economic collapse, are rural, and they don't have much patience for liberal bullshit. Their kids are the future.
Pretty much. I came around to the opinion that the only people who should be able to vote are those who pay more in taxes than receive back or own property outright. (not the bank owns the mortgage on their house). As it stands now people have figured out they can vote themselves the treasury and that's not going to end well.
But alas they aren't reading Plato anymore because he's an old white dude according to current year.
Errrr, you don't really trust the election results, do you?
That said, looks like train's off the rails now.
People love the idea of freedom, but hate the results. That's why the founding fathers had to emphasize dangerous liberty so much. That's why books like Brave New World and The Giver are read in schools. A passion for freedom with a tolerance for danger is learned, either through history or, more unfortunately, lived experience.
Left to their own devices, most people will naturally lean toward authoritarianism and tribalism. You could almost say this is evolutionary instinct. The American education system was supposed to instill the idea of personal liberty as a form of governance and America as a larger tribe beyond your immediate family.
America began to fall once too many people began to huff their own farts and believed a freedom-loving mind would spontaneously develop from nothingness, despite a growing faction of communist educators. That American freedom was the normal and the long, bloody history of human civilization was the abnormality.
Short Answer: Runaway Left-wing politics
Long Answer: The inevitable failure of democracy. Giving the vote to every Gimme-Gimme that votes blue no matter who. Our republic only lasted as long as it did because the vote was limited to people with a real stake in the country. Now we don't think, "How can I invest in the country?" instead we ask, "What can I get out of this country?"
For more information read some Robert Heinlein, of Starship Troopers fame. He was generally right in his predictions.
He is my all time favorite author. I’d love a faithful adaptation of Moon is a Harsh Mistress amongst other books
The right lost pop culture and then the tea party made it a kind of race to the bottom.
The Tea Party was nothing but a necessary reaction to Obama.
Everything went off the rails in 2012 when Obama got his second term.
The nation's decline massively accelerated under Obama's second term.
Don't blame the reaction for the core problem.
The long march through the institutions ensured that the left has control of all the major institutions. How can the right ever hope to win pop culture without dismantling the leftist stronghold on the institutions?
This article on the very topic came out today. Not looking good for stoicism - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/4/establishment-institutions-turning-conservatives-i/
Note the word "SOCIAL EXPERIMENTATION".
As someone who had the misfortune of working for the Republican Party during the Tea Party wave, I think they were largely destructive. The candidates they put forward were motivated by blind, righteous indignation toward the establishment, which is fine, provided you have some philosophical underpinnings to offer an intelligent alternative. They didn't. So, a lot of actually good Republicans got primaried by nutjobs, who in turn lost their seats to Democrats two years later.
I'm totally for tossing out the establishment, it clearly isn't working. I'd love to see everyone who voted for the stimulus to get primaried ASAP, but once again, we need viable alternatives rather than blind rage. All that energy was misspent, and I think the same energy exists today, so we should be more thoughtful about what we do with it.
Interesting perspective you bring up.
There will be a lot of rage this time as well.
Now we have MAGA/America First with the philosophy of Trump behind it.
I hope this time the movement can focus its energy in productive ways for the country.
See, the problem imo is that you’re giving the Right a free pass for giving you Mitt Romney’s and Marco Rubios when we needed more Rand Paul’s
I despise Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio.
I am not giving them or any Bushian GOP establishment rat a free pass.
Romney and Rubio are both establishment GOP neocons not Tea Party and the neocon wing are all globalist war mongering filth.
I even called out neo con Ben Shapiro on this site just a little while ago.
You need to understand the Trump MAGA movement was born out of the Tea Party.
I never saw the Tea Party calling men in dresses women. I never saw the Tea Party pushing critical race theory.
I never saw the Tea Party pushing marxism. All of that is coming from the radical left.
Insane to blame any of that on the Tea Party.
We are where we are now thanks to the neoliberal Democrat establishment adopting radical leftist ideas while the neocon GOP eetablishment did nothing to stop them and even fought vehemently to undermine Trump from within the party.
The sad truth is that the Tea Party was co-opted by special interests that neutered the original message of the Tea Party. Rather than tax cuts coming from the strict management of government spending, the Tea Party’s elected politicians merely pushed for tax cuts (particularly for the wealthy) while ignoring uncontrolled spending completely.
Yep globalist Koch Brothers bought off most of the Tea Party candidates and turned them into Chamber of Commerce shills.
The Tea Party was only good in the sense that the movement provided a springboard for Trump's MAGA/America First.
If my memory serves me correctly, the exact same thing happened to OWS. The core message was corruption, lobbyists and undue influence of global corporations upon the American political discourse. Fast forward a few months and the progressive stack rears its ugly head. We've seen what has happened in the almost decade since.
OWS was subverted by George Soros' money.
He injected identity politics to erode the original message and cause progressive stack infighting and collapse the movement.
Koch Brothers derailed the Tea Party.
The subversive globalist elites always destroy the grassroots movements so it doesn't hamper their interests.
Yes, that's what happened to a lot of old-school activist/environmental groups, too, round about 1988 or so. They got subverted by dirty money for to shut up about overpopulation, right at the time when free trade and open borders started getting pushed. I watched with my own eyes as one org threw wildlife under the bus for good in the name of the obsolete culture of brown people (while still castigating whites for doing the exact same thing.)
I never knew the name of the culprit, but I think I do now.
The problem is, everyone is pumping their money into equities because the US dollar is losing value. Treasury bonds are not even giving you a positive return after inflation. I think this explains the Bitcoin bump... Everyone knows the stock market is overinflated (and the housing market); there's just barely anywhere else to put your money. The government is also pumping money in there, and if you're not in the game, you're missing out on the gibs. It will explode, but who knows when? They could delay a depression for another 10 years with their printing press. Of course it would just make things more destructive when it finally happened.
Why I keep buying farmland. Yeah the value on the books may go down, but it produces crops which = income. And over the last 20 years it keeps pace with real inflation.