I doubt it. Glowies need precious little to generate an over-whelming response. You just don't need severe damage when you're an establishment force. It also undermines the argument that you can protect the public.
There's no way that a bomb of that magnitude was supposed to detonate in an empty street like that with no one present. That was supposed to take down a building. It's possible that it went off early on it's way to a target.
It seems fairly obvious to me that it was a genuine attempt at a terrorist attack, but without a clear target, and without anyone taking responsibility, it's hard to tell who.
No, but for realz. Apparently the VBIED was playing a warning for people to evacuate the area. That's really odd behavior for your average terrorist or activist.
Probably not Islamic terrorism - while a car bomb on Christmas fits their MO, bombing the AT&T building on the one day a year when it is least likely to cause mass casualties does not.
If the attackers struck some sort of core networking infrastructure building it could be genuine international cyber-warfare. If it was just a retail store, then it's obviously something else.
Leftist Terrorism has been known to use bombings, but intentionally avoid mass civilian casualties. That's what they did to Sterling Hall back in the 1970s.
In the future Dismantled States of Wokistan, violently forcing a gender upon an unborn child (or mere clump of cells, should the uterus-haver later choose to abort) will definitely be considered a hate crime. So they're insufferably narcissistic, but not Woke.
damn I heard that all the way from 12 south. 2nd ave has been entirely closed due to wuflu, and early morning and it being Christmas and all means foot traffic would have been non-existent, so at least no-one got hurt.
It smells of it being targeted at first responders. First there is a call for a shooting/gunfight, then the vehicle plays an announcement saying it is going to blow. Bomb squad was on the way as it blew up.
Either that or someone copied the old IRA tactic of having a place evacuated before blowing, but not so early that it allows defusal
I'm not sure this was meant to be a political attack. Whoever set this up wanted to limit the loss of life to 0 if possible. They did a lot to attract attention and keep people away:
Gun shots, warning message that broadcast for over an hour, no external demands or engagements.
Targeted the AT&T building to either knock communications out or send a message to AT&T.
It was surely intentional but it wasn't as "Sloppy" as extremist terrorism usually is, it was extremely calculated.
Tbh I am really starting to get worried about random shit blowing up all over America, like the tent and the RV that exploded on Seattle streets recently. It's reminiscent of the Pakistan/middle east car and suicide bombings that have been a plague for years.
I never imagined my country as a place where things could go boom all around me without rhyme or reason. I don't subscribe to paranoia but this is definitely not the same country I grew up in. Change has not been for the better -
I'm going to withhold a lot of my thoughts until I get some more information/photos/video. But Occam's razor points to this being some kind of mobile drug lab gone up bigly. My more speculative side says this was a test VBIED by a political faction and probably not a glowie op.
Plausible I suppose but Occam's razor is a bit out of touch here since the circumstances leading up to the boom were bizarre for a terror attack.
No loss of life, minimal injuries.
The individual behind this seemed to want to draw as much attention to get people the fuck out of the area as possible. (Gun shots fired at no-one just to be heard, warning message an hour+ out from the boom)
Keep in mind I made that post a few hours after learning of the attack, hence the disclaimer about my opinion.
As of now, I'm convinced this was an attack given the probable primary target of a telecommunications hub by method of car bomb with a secondary target of first responders.
This was probably not a false-flag as these lockdowns have shown that you don't need something of this scale for government to do whatever you want so why expend the effort? As someone pointed out in another thread, this was probably not a foreign power as there are other, easier, and less messy methods to achieve the same goal. This was also probably not international terror linked. Speaking generally, when they do attack infrastructure it's things like oil refineries, ports, airports, etc so while not entirely out of the question, I find it unlikely. Finally, this was probably not a domestic right-aligned terror plot. All you have to do is look at the hubub around the plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer; all the right wing cells have been infiltrated by feds at this point.
That leaves two more probable options. One is a domestic left wing cell who were either using this as a test for refinement, or a show of force. Two is a lone wolf or very small cell.
Several factors lead me to this. The first is the claimed recording coming from the VBIED to evacuate and the countdown. The planner must have known with both covid and Christmas Day, the odds of collateral casualties was very low, so the recordings were probably to both clear the area, draw attention, and draw the secondary target of first responders. This would also mean that the intention was to send a message or damage US telecoms and infrastructure rather than raw destruction.
The second is in actual execution which to me appeared a bit amateurish or sloppy. The placement of the VBIED to the probable target could have been better, and while I am not an explosives expert, the size and after effects of the explosive used are not necessarily conducive to hard target destruction. What I mean by that is whatever explosive was used generated a large fireball, and generally, things like gasoline, which are very flammable, are not very explosive. Timothy McVeigh destroyed the entire side of the building his truck was on by turning it into a rolling shaped charge and the RV used in this attack had the potential for the same, but they didn't. To me this says they used easily obtainable and simple explosives rather than more complex chemistry, engineering and material to create a more powerful device. And most importantly they missed; they didn't actually destroy they building, though they have caused a bit of chaos with the outages.
Uh oh, better prevent any large protest gatherings until January 21st, just to be safe guys!
Judging by biden's rallies i don't think theyre terrible worried about his inauguration drawing a big crowd
They know Biden's inauguration crowd would look pathetic, so they are telling people to stay home for safety.
Well, that and its going to be a giant trump rally either way.
I wonder which of the usual suspects was behind this?
Glowies?
Religion of Peace?
Antifa?
Who knows it might even be the glowies trying to make sure protests like Stop the Steal and the DC protest on January 6th cannot happen.
Glowies have done false flags before.
Hell they stole this election, who knows where they would stop.
I doubt it. Glowies need precious little to generate an over-whelming response. You just don't need severe damage when you're an establishment force. It also undermines the argument that you can protect the public.
>glowies
>protecting anything but their pensions
Pffffffffffffffffttttttttttttt
Whoever it was, they missed.
There's no way that a bomb of that magnitude was supposed to detonate in an empty street like that with no one present. That was supposed to take down a building. It's possible that it went off early on it's way to a target.
It seems fairly obvious to me that it was a genuine attempt at a terrorist attack, but without a clear target, and without anyone taking responsibility, it's hard to tell who.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
No, but for realz. Apparently the VBIED was playing a warning for people to evacuate the area. That's really odd behavior for your average terrorist or activist.
Sounds like something the IRA would do.
The Troubles 2: Ireland Recognizes The True Enemy Too
IRA were socialists/commies supported by Soviet/WARPAC intelligence agencies
Real talk, if Brexit kicked off another round of Irish nationalism and stoked desires for a whole Ireland once again, I'd be extremely giddy.
Probably not Islamic terrorism - while a car bomb on Christmas fits their MO, bombing the AT&T building on the one day a year when it is least likely to cause mass casualties does not.
What kind of AT&T building was it?
If the attackers struck some sort of core networking infrastructure building it could be genuine international cyber-warfare. If it was just a retail store, then it's obviously something else.
Leftist Terrorism has been known to use bombings, but intentionally avoid mass civilian casualties. That's what they did to Sterling Hall back in the 1970s.
It was a switching center, so actual network infrastructure.
Hmmmmm
There are phone outages reported in Georgia. Election fraud related? What traffic was handled there and what was in the logs?
Gender reveal party gone wrong.
In the future Dismantled States of Wokistan, violently forcing a gender upon an unborn child (or mere clump of cells, should the uterus-haver later choose to abort) will definitely be considered a hate crime. So they're insufferably narcissistic, but not Woke.
Even terrorists have had to scale down due to covid.
I heard the bombers weren’t even wearing masks. Fucking terrorists
Dr Suess must run the Nashville Fire Department. They use roller coasters for ladder trucks.
nah thats a sculpture
I hope an engineer checked the artists' work for safety before mounting on the truck.
damn I heard that all the way from 12 south. 2nd ave has been entirely closed due to wuflu, and early morning and it being Christmas and all means foot traffic would have been non-existent, so at least no-one got hurt.
It smells of it being targeted at first responders. First there is a call for a shooting/gunfight, then the vehicle plays an announcement saying it is going to blow. Bomb squad was on the way as it blew up.
Either that or someone copied the old IRA tactic of having a place evacuated before blowing, but not so early that it allows defusal
Why do I hear fifes & drums in the distance??
I'm not sure this was meant to be a political attack. Whoever set this up wanted to limit the loss of life to 0 if possible. They did a lot to attract attention and keep people away:
Gun shots, warning message that broadcast for over an hour, no external demands or engagements.
Targeted the AT&T building to either knock communications out or send a message to AT&T.
It was surely intentional but it wasn't as "Sloppy" as extremist terrorism usually is, it was extremely calculated.
I would've picked Comcast but both seem worthy
Tbh I am really starting to get worried about random shit blowing up all over America, like the tent and the RV that exploded on Seattle streets recently. It's reminiscent of the Pakistan/middle east car and suicide bombings that have been a plague for years.
I never imagined my country as a place where things could go boom all around me without rhyme or reason. I don't subscribe to paranoia but this is definitely not the same country I grew up in. Change has not been for the better -
I'm going to withhold a lot of my thoughts until I get some more information/photos/video. But Occam's razor points to this being some kind of mobile drug lab gone up bigly. My more speculative side says this was a test VBIED by a political faction and probably not a glowie op.
Plausible I suppose but Occam's razor is a bit out of touch here since the circumstances leading up to the boom were bizarre for a terror attack.
It's very strange.
Keep in mind I made that post a few hours after learning of the attack, hence the disclaimer about my opinion.
As of now, I'm convinced this was an attack given the probable primary target of a telecommunications hub by method of car bomb with a secondary target of first responders.
This was probably not a false-flag as these lockdowns have shown that you don't need something of this scale for government to do whatever you want so why expend the effort? As someone pointed out in another thread, this was probably not a foreign power as there are other, easier, and less messy methods to achieve the same goal. This was also probably not international terror linked. Speaking generally, when they do attack infrastructure it's things like oil refineries, ports, airports, etc so while not entirely out of the question, I find it unlikely. Finally, this was probably not a domestic right-aligned terror plot. All you have to do is look at the hubub around the plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer; all the right wing cells have been infiltrated by feds at this point.
That leaves two more probable options. One is a domestic left wing cell who were either using this as a test for refinement, or a show of force. Two is a lone wolf or very small cell.
Several factors lead me to this. The first is the claimed recording coming from the VBIED to evacuate and the countdown. The planner must have known with both covid and Christmas Day, the odds of collateral casualties was very low, so the recordings were probably to both clear the area, draw attention, and draw the secondary target of first responders. This would also mean that the intention was to send a message or damage US telecoms and infrastructure rather than raw destruction.
The second is in actual execution which to me appeared a bit amateurish or sloppy. The placement of the VBIED to the probable target could have been better, and while I am not an explosives expert, the size and after effects of the explosive used are not necessarily conducive to hard target destruction. What I mean by that is whatever explosive was used generated a large fireball, and generally, things like gasoline, which are very flammable, are not very explosive. Timothy McVeigh destroyed the entire side of the building his truck was on by turning it into a rolling shaped charge and the RV used in this attack had the potential for the same, but they didn't. To me this says they used easily obtainable and simple explosives rather than more complex chemistry, engineering and material to create a more powerful device. And most importantly they missed; they didn't actually destroy they building, though they have caused a bit of chaos with the outages.
It's like the end of NeXt.