Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.
Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car.
In our city we don't pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.
Shopping? I can't really remember what that is. For most of us, it has been turned into choosing things to use. Sometimes I find this fun, and sometimes I just want the algorithm to do it for me. It knows my taste better than I do by now.
My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.
Once in awhile I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.
They want a society where, if you dissent from it, they check a box somewhere and you can no longer have the ability to cook yourself dinner because you don't even own the bowls and utensils you would use to prepare it, let alone the house you would cook it in or the vehicle you would take to purchase the ingredients. And all you have is a "hope" that the mass surveillance apparatus isn't used against you.
WTF, this isn't supposed to be some parody of a dystopia!? It reads exactly like "the robot overlords may on occasion drain some blood for lubricant, but I don't have to pay for Netflix so it's pretty cool".
"Oh, I don't even need the intelligence to do the home economics involved in shopping. A computer algorithm tells me what tools to use for whatever it is I'm doing". I'm surprised you're doing ANYTHING, you dumb monkey, and aren't just letting a robot do it for you.
I'm sure if we made the right technology for them, non-humans could use robots to do things and communicate, too.
Lazy, lazy apes. THAT is going to be what brings a technological species down before it can spread its filthy self to infest other planets ...
Meanwhile, I see Hunger4Words (Stella) and Hey, Daisy! and see MENTALLY ACTIVE CREATURES WHO LIKE TO LEARN.
The authoritarians think that their ambition and ruthlessness is a super-power. They think that they can a) be in power forever, b) never be challenged, c) be regarded as loving parents of society, if only they can infantilize the general population and burn every ounce of ambition out of them.
WTF, this isn't supposed to be some parody of a dystopia!?
It was quite a day when I realized that utopian fiction and dystopian fiction aren't two different types of fiction. They're almost identical - the only difference is the point-of-view character's place in the hierarchy.
An MBA's wet dream: you don't buy a bike or even a bowl or spoon. You pay for it every time you need it. It's the "give away the razor, sell the blades" model applied at a societal level.
I didn't get the sense that everything was free, just transport, energy, and communication.
I hate agreeing with this person on anything, but I do tend to think that general-purpose automation will likely drop the cost of basic goods down to just above to the cost of the raw materials used to produce them. But if the demand for scarce materials exceeds the supply they'd still have to account for scarcity somehow: either through charging rent or through rationing.
Of course there's no way "the algorithm" is going to be totally unbiased, so maybe they'll just build the rationing into it: "I'm sorry Dave; I'm afraid I can't do that".
The "algorithm" is going to have to be Social Credit++ and it deeply concerns me that way that this author depicts slavish obeisance to what, if it's not a bunch of Silicon Valley elites, would be something that's functionally identical.
I mean, about the only way that's going to work is if being discovered criticising - or worse, engaging in private enterprise, something that might compete with your owners - results in you being cut out from society completely, but that's what this is set up to enable. Your entire lifestyle is predicated upon permission from some unknown entity assessing your actions.
Still, if you're a good dog and beg in just the right way, you might get some more ticks on your ration card. Sit, roll over.
Someone comes into my place if I'm not home, THE DOG BITES THEIR ASS.
Oh, wait, these freaks have banned all non-humans from their cities, haven't they? Coz muslims don't like dogs.
Yeah, stuff like this just makes me want a war so I can go ape-hunting with no legal repurcussion. Humans are just the primate version of rats, anyway.
Become the people who got upset and turned against. Make these socialists the outcasts. Make them have to live "outside" of civilized society. Destroy any community they create by force. Any politician who passes even the tiniest of laws that increase federal powers? Deport. Out out out, enact your stupid policies in venezuela.
Oh, and nobody is safe from this just because they agree with 99.9% of this country's principles. Big government people of all stripes, fascist, syndicalist, theocrat, democrat, even RINO scum, all need to be deported. Want big government? Go to China, retards.
"Small government" isn't gonna save you. If you plan on keeping people individual and divided then they're gonna get picked off by a more centralized power. People need organization and cooperation, just not ran by people who hate life itself.
Remember when hypercentralized borderline-stalinist U.S. Government was able to remove the relatively minuscule and decentralized network of black marketeers?
Centralized powers struggle with decentral foes. Also, I do not want to keep people "Individual and divided", I want to keep individual people convivially together by voluntary interaction. If they do not come together, then it is better it stay that way because forcing people together who do not wish to be, creates conflict. It is practically the definition of conflict
Also, like I said, go to china if you like the government so much.
Yeah when I first heard of this it was the most dystopian thing I could imagine. I'm surprised they even allowed somebody to post it, but of course if it's their grand plan they need to reveal it at some point.
This is only the "good stuff" that they will admit they're gonna do too. Let that sink in for a minute.
Remember when LA ordered water and power to be shut off to residences and businesses who defied the "lockdowns"? And how Uber will require you to take a picture of yourself wearing a mask before they will order you a ride? These people want that for literally everything.
I stopped reading when the author said "everything is free".
I've seen that before, it's all nothing but hippies blowing smoke out their asses.
Meanwhile, they don't realize that if everything is free, then civilization has collapsed, there's no meaning to money any more, and humans are back to living like wild apes. Do you know who has true freedom and "equality/equity"? "Wild animal" societies, and dumb-bum stone-agers. Meanwhile, these losers would die in a day living in a van in the fucking woods on the fringes of a city - something at least the Silent Generation could still handle ...
Of course everything is free. A slave has no money to buy anything; they are assigned that which their owner determines they need to perform their duties.
Okay, that might actually be a fair description. I was under the (admittedly biased) assumption she was describing "non progressive lifestyles" as "diseased."
Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
I own my gun and it's ammunition. It maintains my privacy. It maintains my property. My life is good because you and your slaves will hippity hoppity the fuck off my property.
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without my rifle, I am nothing. Without me, my rifle is nothing...
The World Economic Forum is literally pushing the New Normal. I can scarcely believe Computing Forever and Tim Pool seem to be on the same page on this one.
It's all been pre-planned (for decades), coordinated, and gov'ts around the world are cooperating to transition and transform our societies to an Orwellian, digital prison and they are using this fake crisis as their vehicle to install a biomedical, surveillance state. The totalitarian technocrats at the World Economic Forum, who are in bed with international banksters like the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and others like their ilk, are calling it the "Great Reset." And if they succeed in their tyrannical, "sustainable development" goals they will consolidate power and total control over the population; they will erode our rights and freedom to the point we'll have none at all; change our entire economic and lifestyle paradigms; many universities due or become part of the Federal core; your debt can be cleared and be offered UBI and free housing but only if you [forfeit any private ownership and assets forever, agree to mandatory annual vaccinations, agree to Alphabet agency health surveillance, and agree to social credit system & scores tied to speech & behavioral control similar to the communist, police state China]; you give up control of your reproductive health when you accept mandatory vaccination (sterilization); draconian lockdowns, etc. These are some of the things to come in this dystopian dictatorship if people don't wake up and allow it to happen.
Here's the blueprint/scenario to seize more power and control over society from the 2010 Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development the Rockefeller Foundation document:
"In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009’s
H1N1, this new influenza strain—originating from wild geese—was extremely virulent and deadly."
"A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback."
"Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty—and their privacy—to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit. In developed countries, this heightened oversight took many forms: biometric IDs for all citizens, for example, and tighter regulation of key industries whose stability was deemed vital to national interests."
In our city we don't pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.
I find this bit curious. Why would the author have an area that she considers her living room? In a world like this, surely you wouldn't bother returning to a particular "free space" every night. You'd just check into whatever room was convenient. They'd all be the same and it's not like you have any property you're leaving behind.
Also, why are there business meetings? If no one has to buy anything, no one needs a job.
Seriously, the concept of not paying rent because other people use your house when you're not there is dumb as hell. Everyone could say that. In the meantime, the house is going to need maintenance and repairs. Even if you've got a robot to do the repairs (and from what I've read, jobs like plumbing, roofing, etc are going to be among the last to be automated since every repair is a bit different), there's still going to be a cost to getting it done, however minimal it might be.
I know someone who worked at a company that had no assigned work area: employees would come in and claim a free desk, and I think they went so far as to frown upon someone claiming the same desk every day. It's one thing to let people self-organize, but to frown on people for self-organizing the "wrong" way seems wrong to me.
One of the things I don't like about hotels is that it's expected that someone will come into your room every day to clean it. On the one hand it's nice that things get cleaned, but I don't like that it requires that someone intrude upon my private space every day.
A world where you spend your whole life a nomad with no territory you can claim as your own sounds fucking awful, and I will take no part in such a world.
The thing is, humans are possessive, territorial animals. Give schoolkids the choice to pick any desk, many of them will form their own preferences for a certain desk; the same goes for any other space (lunch tables, bar stools, etc). See, her choice of language in that article even tells on herself as such an animal.
But that's the thing, their philosophies hinge on the entire denial of the human animal even existing. The human is just a construct, see.
Well that's not true, the ones the elites would use would be much nicer than the dilapidated, vandalized, squalid shitholes the rest of the populace would get to scramble and fight over every night.
I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
The superior future, brought to you by Panem and Circenses!
Welcome to the year 2030.
This is gonna be optimistic in more ways than one.
Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city". I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.
Those first two items are common to not own these days, sadly. Then, you started getting creepy. Or homeless.
It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city.
You misspelled "cult".
Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.
I'm watching someone from a thing called "World Economic Forum" fail to realize that all those things require effort and therefore can't be free because who's gonna drive a bus just for the deep personal fulfillment of being a bus driver?
Then, when clean energy became free
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA! This Communist utopia is predicated on the creation of free energy!
we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes.
Wait, that's even better than free energy, it's predicated on the existence of a Santa Claus machine: A wholly automated device capable of making anything out of anything.
In our city we don't pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.
The CEO of Globocorp apparently even rubbed his dick on the photo of my sister I keep on the mantelpiece. I'm quite proud.
Excerpts:
They want a society where, if you dissent from it, they check a box somewhere and you can no longer have the ability to cook yourself dinner because you don't even own the bowls and utensils you would use to prepare it, let alone the house you would cook it in or the vehicle you would take to purchase the ingredients. And all you have is a "hope" that the mass surveillance apparatus isn't used against you.
WTF, this isn't supposed to be some parody of a dystopia!? It reads exactly like "the robot overlords may on occasion drain some blood for lubricant, but I don't have to pay for Netflix so it's pretty cool".
And the LAZINESS.
"Oh, I don't even need the intelligence to do the home economics involved in shopping. A computer algorithm tells me what tools to use for whatever it is I'm doing". I'm surprised you're doing ANYTHING, you dumb monkey, and aren't just letting a robot do it for you.
I'm sure if we made the right technology for them, non-humans could use robots to do things and communicate, too.
Lazy, lazy apes. THAT is going to be what brings a technological species down before it can spread its filthy self to infest other planets ...
Meanwhile, I see Hunger4Words (Stella) and Hey, Daisy! and see MENTALLY ACTIVE CREATURES WHO LIKE TO LEARN.
The authoritarians think that their ambition and ruthlessness is a super-power. They think that they can a) be in power forever, b) never be challenged, c) be regarded as loving parents of society, if only they can infantilize the general population and burn every ounce of ambition out of them.
It was quite a day when I realized that utopian fiction and dystopian fiction aren't two different types of fiction. They're almost identical - the only difference is the point-of-view character's place in the hierarchy.
This year has taught me that most people will gladly live in a dystopia if they think they will be "safe" living in one.
This is a slave. Owns nothing, makes no money, is assigned equipment necessary for the job from master.
An MBA's wet dream: you don't buy a bike or even a bowl or spoon. You pay for it every time you need it. It's the "give away the razor, sell the blades" model applied at a societal level.
Except you don't, it's all "free", decided by an algorithm, because the only thing owned by anybody in that entire scenario is you.
I didn't get the sense that everything was free, just transport, energy, and communication.
I hate agreeing with this person on anything, but I do tend to think that general-purpose automation will likely drop the cost of basic goods down to just above to the cost of the raw materials used to produce them. But if the demand for scarce materials exceeds the supply they'd still have to account for scarcity somehow: either through charging rent or through rationing.
Of course there's no way "the algorithm" is going to be totally unbiased, so maybe they'll just build the rationing into it: "I'm sorry Dave; I'm afraid I can't do that".
The "algorithm" is going to have to be Social Credit++ and it deeply concerns me that way that this author depicts slavish obeisance to what, if it's not a bunch of Silicon Valley elites, would be something that's functionally identical.
I mean, about the only way that's going to work is if being discovered criticising - or worse, engaging in private enterprise, something that might compete with your owners - results in you being cut out from society completely, but that's what this is set up to enable. Your entire lifestyle is predicated upon permission from some unknown entity assessing your actions.
Still, if you're a good dog and beg in just the right way, you might get some more ticks on your ration card. Sit, roll over.
Someone comes into my place if I'm not home, THE DOG BITES THEIR ASS.
Oh, wait, these freaks have banned all non-humans from their cities, haven't they? Coz muslims don't like dogs.
Yeah, stuff like this just makes me want a war so I can go ape-hunting with no legal repurcussion. Humans are just the primate version of rats, anyway.
Become the people who got upset and turned against. Make these socialists the outcasts. Make them have to live "outside" of civilized society. Destroy any community they create by force. Any politician who passes even the tiniest of laws that increase federal powers? Deport. Out out out, enact your stupid policies in venezuela.
Oh, and nobody is safe from this just because they agree with 99.9% of this country's principles. Big government people of all stripes, fascist, syndicalist, theocrat, democrat, even RINO scum, all need to be deported. Want big government? Go to China, retards.
"Small government" isn't gonna save you. If you plan on keeping people individual and divided then they're gonna get picked off by a more centralized power. People need organization and cooperation, just not ran by people who hate life itself.
Remember when hypercentralized borderline-stalinist U.S. Government was able to remove the relatively minuscule and decentralized network of black marketeers?
Centralized powers struggle with decentral foes. Also, I do not want to keep people "Individual and divided", I want to keep individual people convivially together by voluntary interaction. If they do not come together, then it is better it stay that way because forcing people together who do not wish to be, creates conflict. It is practically the definition of conflict
Also, like I said, go to china if you like the government so much.
Freedom of association comes with freedom FROM association, after all.
Yeah when I first heard of this it was the most dystopian thing I could imagine. I'm surprised they even allowed somebody to post it, but of course if it's their grand plan they need to reveal it at some point.
This is only the "good stuff" that they will admit they're gonna do too. Let that sink in for a minute.
Remember when LA ordered water and power to be shut off to residences and businesses who defied the "lockdowns"? And how Uber will require you to take a picture of yourself wearing a mask before they will order you a ride? These people want that for literally everything.
I stopped reading when the author said "everything is free".
I've seen that before, it's all nothing but hippies blowing smoke out their asses.
Meanwhile, they don't realize that if everything is free, then civilization has collapsed, there's no meaning to money any more, and humans are back to living like wild apes. Do you know who has true freedom and "equality/equity"? "Wild animal" societies, and dumb-bum stone-agers. Meanwhile, these losers would die in a day living in a van in the fucking woods on the fringes of a city - something at least the Silent Generation could still handle ...
Of course everything is free. A slave has no money to buy anything; they are assigned that which their owner determines they need to perform their duties.
Like this, only now it's your whole life. Soooooeeey.
Welcome To The Machine.
I can't believe the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM forgot "there's no such thing as a free lunch", one of the most common phrases repeated in Econ 101 lectures.
Would someone please define this vomit of an expression?
Bigoted hetero cis white men.
Everyone has to be hedonist and accept constant meaningless sex and drugs.
Basically just Brave New World repackaged.
Okay, that might actually be a fair description. I was under the (admittedly biased) assumption she was describing "non progressive lifestyles" as "diseased."
Of course it's a woman's idea.
I own my gun and it's ammunition. It maintains my privacy. It maintains my property. My life is good because you and your slaves will hippity hoppity the fuck off my property.
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without my rifle, I am nothing. Without me, my rifle is nothing...
Rent the bullets and send them back to them slightly faster than when they arrived by drone.
All of it?
The World Economic Forum is literally pushing the New Normal. I can scarcely believe Computing Forever and Tim Pool seem to be on the same page on this one.
Anyone that reads this and wants this life is the problem. They are totally deranged.
It's all been pre-planned (for decades), coordinated, and gov'ts around the world are cooperating to transition and transform our societies to an Orwellian, digital prison and they are using this fake crisis as their vehicle to install a biomedical, surveillance state. The totalitarian technocrats at the World Economic Forum, who are in bed with international banksters like the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and others like their ilk, are calling it the "Great Reset." And if they succeed in their tyrannical, "sustainable development" goals they will consolidate power and total control over the population; they will erode our rights and freedom to the point we'll have none at all; change our entire economic and lifestyle paradigms; many universities due or become part of the Federal core; your debt can be cleared and be offered UBI and free housing but only if you [forfeit any private ownership and assets forever, agree to mandatory annual vaccinations, agree to Alphabet agency health surveillance, and agree to social credit system & scores tied to speech & behavioral control similar to the communist, police state China]; you give up control of your reproductive health when you accept mandatory vaccination (sterilization); draconian lockdowns, etc. These are some of the things to come in this dystopian dictatorship if people don't wake up and allow it to happen.
Here's the blueprint/scenario to seize more power and control over society from the 2010 Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development the Rockefeller Foundation document:
https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller Foundation.pdf
http://archive.is/wjEsV
2 min video: Operation Lockstep - Rockefeller Plan for Martial Law 2010
Your Guide to the Great Reset by CorbettReport
https://youtu.be/HeMsaN6xjAQ
Global Elite’s “Great Reset” Agenda (Shocking Discoveries Revealed) by George Gammon
https://youtu.be/1xO723gH7Go
The Great Reset Plan Revealed by Spiro Skouras
https://youtu.be/X6pzXrEBqR0
Meet Bill Gates by CorbettReport
https://youtu.be/DSvhPnUgyz8
Government Agenda For Digital Dollar Revealed! Is Communism Next? by George Gammon
https://youtu.be/uX7VpTqXJhY
Whoever is behind this agenda needs to go on a wonderful aerial tour in Minecraft.
I find this bit curious. Why would the author have an area that she considers her living room? In a world like this, surely you wouldn't bother returning to a particular "free space" every night. You'd just check into whatever room was convenient. They'd all be the same and it's not like you have any property you're leaving behind.
Also, why are there business meetings? If no one has to buy anything, no one needs a job.
Seriously, the concept of not paying rent because other people use your house when you're not there is dumb as hell. Everyone could say that. In the meantime, the house is going to need maintenance and repairs. Even if you've got a robot to do the repairs (and from what I've read, jobs like plumbing, roofing, etc are going to be among the last to be automated since every repair is a bit different), there's still going to be a cost to getting it done, however minimal it might be.
I know someone who worked at a company that had no assigned work area: employees would come in and claim a free desk, and I think they went so far as to frown upon someone claiming the same desk every day. It's one thing to let people self-organize, but to frown on people for self-organizing the "wrong" way seems wrong to me.
One of the things I don't like about hotels is that it's expected that someone will come into your room every day to clean it. On the one hand it's nice that things get cleaned, but I don't like that it requires that someone intrude upon my private space every day.
A world where you spend your whole life a nomad with no territory you can claim as your own sounds fucking awful, and I will take no part in such a world.
The thing is, humans are possessive, territorial animals. Give schoolkids the choice to pick any desk, many of them will form their own preferences for a certain desk; the same goes for any other space (lunch tables, bar stools, etc). See, her choice of language in that article even tells on herself as such an animal.
But that's the thing, their philosophies hinge on the entire denial of the human animal even existing. The human is just a construct, see.
Well that's not true, the ones the elites would use would be much nicer than the dilapidated, vandalized, squalid shitholes the rest of the populace would get to scramble and fight over every night.
The superior future, brought to you by Panem and Circenses!
This is gonna be optimistic in more ways than one.
Those first two items are common to not own these days, sadly. Then, you started getting creepy. Or homeless.
You misspelled "cult".
I'm watching someone from a thing called "World Economic Forum" fail to realize that all those things require effort and therefore can't be free because who's gonna drive a bus just for the deep personal fulfillment of being a bus driver?
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA! This Communist utopia is predicated on the creation of free energy!
Wait, that's even better than free energy, it's predicated on the existence of a Santa Claus machine: A wholly automated device capable of making anything out of anything.
The CEO of Globocorp apparently even rubbed his dick on the photo of my sister I keep on the mantelpiece. I'm quite proud.
Come onnnn guys. We all know these people have to go for the long drop, or none of us is safe.