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World Economic Forum in 2016 predicting life in 2030. How much of this aligns with "the new normal" being pushed post-WuFlu (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq 5 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq +41 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

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Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.

Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car.

In our city we don't pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.

Shopping? I can't really remember what that is. For most of us, it has been turned into choosing things to use. Sometimes I find this fun, and sometimes I just want the algorithm to do it for me. It knows my taste better than I do by now.

My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.

Once in awhile I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.

They want a society where, if you dissent from it, they check a box somewhere and you can no longer have the ability to cook yourself dinner because you don't even own the bowls and utensils you would use to prepare it, let alone the house you would cook it in or the vehicle you would take to purchase the ingredients. And all you have is a "hope" that the mass surveillance apparatus isn't used against you.

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– FMantothemax 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

WTF, this isn't supposed to be some parody of a dystopia!? It reads exactly like "the robot overlords may on occasion drain some blood for lubricant, but I don't have to pay for Netflix so it's pretty cool".

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– Knife-TotingRat 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

And the LAZINESS.

"Oh, I don't even need the intelligence to do the home economics involved in shopping. A computer algorithm tells me what tools to use for whatever it is I'm doing". I'm surprised you're doing ANYTHING, you dumb monkey, and aren't just letting a robot do it for you.

I'm sure if we made the right technology for them, non-humans could use robots to do things and communicate, too.

Lazy, lazy apes. THAT is going to be what brings a technological species down before it can spread its filthy self to infest other planets ...

Meanwhile, I see Hunger4Words (Stella) and Hey, Daisy! and see MENTALLY ACTIVE CREATURES WHO LIKE TO LEARN.

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– Gizortnik 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

The authoritarians think that their ambition and ruthlessness is a super-power. They think that they can a) be in power forever, b) never be challenged, c) be regarded as loving parents of society, if only they can infantilize the general population and burn every ounce of ambition out of them.

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– Soup_Navy_Admiral 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

WTF, this isn't supposed to be some parody of a dystopia!?

It was quite a day when I realized that utopian fiction and dystopian fiction aren't two different types of fiction. They're almost identical - the only difference is the point-of-view character's place in the hierarchy.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

This year has taught me that most people will gladly live in a dystopia if they think they will be "safe" living in one.

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– APDSmith 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

This is a slave. Owns nothing, makes no money, is assigned equipment necessary for the job from master.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

An MBA's wet dream: you don't buy a bike or even a bowl or spoon. You pay for it every time you need it. It's the "give away the razor, sell the blades" model applied at a societal level.

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– APDSmith 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You pay for it every time you need it

Except you don't, it's all "free", decided by an algorithm, because the only thing owned by anybody in that entire scenario is you.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I didn't get the sense that everything was free, just transport, energy, and communication.

I hate agreeing with this person on anything, but I do tend to think that general-purpose automation will likely drop the cost of basic goods down to just above to the cost of the raw materials used to produce them. But if the demand for scarce materials exceeds the supply they'd still have to account for scarcity somehow: either through charging rent or through rationing.

Of course there's no way "the algorithm" is going to be totally unbiased, so maybe they'll just build the rationing into it: "I'm sorry Dave; I'm afraid I can't do that".

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... continue reading thread?
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– deleted 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0
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– Knife-TotingRat 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Someone comes into my place if I'm not home, THE DOG BITES THEIR ASS.

Oh, wait, these freaks have banned all non-humans from their cities, haven't they? Coz muslims don't like dogs.

Yeah, stuff like this just makes me want a war so I can go ape-hunting with no legal repurcussion. Humans are just the primate version of rats, anyway.

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– Voluntaryism 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Become the people who got upset and turned against. Make these socialists the outcasts. Make them have to live "outside" of civilized society. Destroy any community they create by force. Any politician who passes even the tiniest of laws that increase federal powers? Deport. Out out out, enact your stupid policies in venezuela.

Oh, and nobody is safe from this just because they agree with 99.9% of this country's principles. Big government people of all stripes, fascist, syndicalist, theocrat, democrat, even RINO scum, all need to be deported. Want big government? Go to China, retards.

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– Arkana 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

"Small government" isn't gonna save you. If you plan on keeping people individual and divided then they're gonna get picked off by a more centralized power. People need organization and cooperation, just not ran by people who hate life itself.

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– Voluntaryism 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Remember when hypercentralized borderline-stalinist U.S. Government was able to remove the relatively minuscule and decentralized network of black marketeers?

Centralized powers struggle with decentral foes. Also, I do not want to keep people "Individual and divided", I want to keep individual people convivially together by voluntary interaction. If they do not come together, then it is better it stay that way because forcing people together who do not wish to be, creates conflict. It is practically the definition of conflict

Also, like I said, go to china if you like the government so much.

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– Knife-TotingRat 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Freedom of association comes with freedom FROM association, after all.

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