Not even close. He never had them.
Read what you quoted again. I said "allegedly," not that I thought he had them. I'm just saying that the existential threat of the propaganda with WMDs was much more impressive and actionable than the idea that Iran might not do the whole 'human rights' thing in the same way we allegedly do.
That's it. I'm not saying there were WMDs. Hell, at the time, I was a liberal, literally out there on the streets waving signs, probably about no blood for oil or some shit.
Not really. Rubio was planning an attack for months, not really years.
I never said years. I said "ages." Which is ambiguous. Point is, it's possible that, just like with Venezuela, we have sneaky Iran attacks in the tubes. The admin has clearly wanted this for some time. Considering they clearly wanted both, it's likely at least potential Iran attacks have been planned just as long as the Venezuela attacks, and so are ready to go whenever they pull the trigger.
Honestly, it would be more surprising if we didn't have Iran attacks at the ready, considering the dialogue coming out of the Whitehouse.
It is driving me nuts how they can fall for the same trick that has been used to get this fake and gay country into desert wars for decades now.
Worse. The propaganda is more inept.
At least, allegedly, we went after Saddam because he had WMDs and could have killed millions of Americans. We're going after Iran because...they're mean to protestors?! It's just so fucking stupid. The whole thing is so fucking stupid.
Highly unlikely that it will be tonight...Carrier groups aren't in position for such a strike.
Good point, you can often see more signs faster.
While that's possible, and we have done it, it's a hell of a request to a make without months of planning and pre-positioning.
Honestly, I think we have been planning for a while. Look at the sudden strike on Venezuela. This shit has been in the pipeline for ages.
So, I get what you're saying, and it's a good point...but it's also still possible this shit is locked in.
Maybe not the biggest issue, but free speech is pretty important. And Trump is literally forcing universities to enact DEI policies for Jewish students, and hate speech codes.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Many of the people I liked sold out. Matt Gaetz. Steve Bannon. I liked Cernovich and Jack Posobiec on war, but they're insufferable. And Nikki Haley's brat (named Nalin Haley like a porn parody of Nikki) was very reasonable on Tucker Carlson, only to go, and I quote: "Stfu America runs the world. We do what tf we want when we want. WE ARE THE LAW". Just embarrassing.
Fuck, I liked the Haley kid on Tucker as well; he seemed to have his head on straight. Embarrassing indeed if he switched like that, absolute nonsense. I liked Bannon, but haven't trusted him in ages. Shame about Gaetz though; he seemed pretty solid. How hard is it to just remain anti-war/intervention? Wow.
Except for his claim that it's exactly like Charlie Kirk
It's disappointing to see smart people make such a dumb argument. Tucker did it too. One was a guy sitting there talking, another was driving a car toward an armed agent. Whether you think she "deserved" it or not, one killing was infinitely more justifiable, since there was at least potential cause.
I see the same on the right. Maybe not quite as bad. But they spent years attacking cancel culture and censorship at universities, only to do that for Israel.
I don't see it as near a big of an issue, and not nearly as universal on the right but, yeah, there have been some big failures and hypocrisies.
The thing is, how have they commandeered what Trump does, and how do they manage to convince the MAGA base. It's not fully a cult, as someone correctly pointed out to me (Iran, Epstein), but it sure looks like a cult when people go from "no regime change" to "yay regime change" over the course of a week.
It's not always the same people...but often is. Yeah, very culty. "No regime change...oh, Trump is doing regime change, we have to support it now." Sad.
Fuckity fuck.
I was really hoping we avoid this - and am still hoping - but it's looking more and more likely that we're about to fuck up Iran.
As to "MIGA," he said it last time he bombed Iran, too. What a sad joke.
Can we please not?
I hate propaganda stats that look impressive but are irrelevant.
Why are we measuring countries as percent of American GDP (the highest GDP country in the world), and not percent change of their own GDP, which would actually be relevant? Russia and Argentina are around the highest they've ever been. Venezuela went communist, then got blockaded and sanctioned by a bunch of the world. Zimbabwe kicked out all the white people and replaced them with retarded communists. These are not the same pictures.
Also...if 'percent of American GDP' is the unit of measurement, we'll be fine regardless! We'll always be 100% of our own GDP. Checkmate, economists.
"You watched [movie] and sided with [the protagonists.]"
These people are fucking retarded.
Even if you don't have a problem with the immorality, would you not at least try to be strategic?
Right? Not to say I'm correct about everything, but you can easily straddle the line on this; she did fuck around and find out, and a sane person wouldn't have done that...it should also still be sad that a woman lost her life. And we should be asking if there was a way to avoid that.
I like how Darryl Cooper is obviously a very humane guy, but he's constantly called an evil nutsi. To be honest, I'm not interested in his history - I prefer historians for that - but his takes on current affairs I think are very good.
Do you listen to Provoked, his podcast with Scott Horton? It's pretty good, and it's interesting to see them bounce off each other. I like both the guys, and think they're both operating in good faith, so it's interesting when they clash sometimes. Scott failed the 'nationalism' question on one ep, and I was much more on Darryl's side.
As to history, I haven't heard too much but, among other ones, do find his series on WW2 fascinating. That first episode about WW1 is absolutely horrific, in both the best and worst way. Trench warfare ain't nothing to scoff at. And Ernst Junger was an absolute boss.
I think this is bad for the admin
Probably. Still feels like they wanted it, or were too stupid to avoid it, though. No matter who you think is at fault in this particular incident...it's not an unpredictable outcome. I was talking about ICE killing someone and leftists burning cities months ago.
And yet always worth reading.
Thanks, but I should learn to be more concise...
They justified Ashli Babbitt, even though she was unarmed, and now they're saying that you cannot ever shoot an unarmed woman
Because they don't have standards or integrity, and live in their own reality.
(a car aimed at you is arguably a weapon, but whether it was used like that is controversial) when it's their ox being gored.
It was used like that, or at least presented such a danger. I don't think, and never did think, that she intentionally tried to run the agent over. It's also not relevant to his reaction, though.
As to cars as weapons, they absolutely can be, and sometimes are. Ironically, it was Tucker himself who had a great bit about all the 'unarmed blacks gunned down by police,' and he did a breakdown, pointing out how they were almost all armed in one way or another; I think one officer was even pinned between two vehicles when he fired. That was classified as him killing an unarmed person. That's just insane.
The most maddening thing about MAGA cheering for Venezuela. Those deep state goons who want that hate you more than Maduro.
It's not even MAGA at this point, that's what's really sad. MAGA is dead. It's a skinsuit operated by Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, and Laura Loomer now. A bunch of Never Trumpers somehow convinced Trump and MAGA that they are Core MAGA, and everyone else is a traitor.
Also, like MTG, when you quit early I lose all respect for you.
At least MTG was actually under attack. She still shouldn't have quit, but Bongino is even more spineless. He folded under zero pressure. At least outside pressure. People were saying mean things...boo hoo.
It's actually laughable; Bongino did pretty much nothing, was extremely arrogant, and shittalked everyone else...then just walked, for pretty much no reason. Absolute joke of an individual, at this point.
I don't see much in the way of "bloodthirstiness" from the right on this.
I've seen a fair few people equating fucking around and finding out with 'bitch had it coming LOL.'
At most a tiny fraction of the cheering the left does EVERY time someone on our side is injured or killed.
But, yes, very true. The right correctly pointing out that this woman was an absolute moron is not the same as the left cheering on, for example, the Kirk killing.
She drove at him & he has a right to self-defense.
Correct, and I said as much. I still think ICE was looking for a fight though. I won't do the whole 'he was already next to her when he fired' bit, because it fails to take reflexes into account, and the first shot did go through the front windshield, albeit at an angle.
I think he may have bene looking for trouble, but that he also reacted in defensive instinct.
Part of my point is they should have been trained to not get in that position because, as I've said, the left was looking for this sort of incident. ICE should have prioritized not handing it to them. 'Defend yourself if needed, but try not to get into a position where you need to' should have been the operating procedure. And doesn't seem it was.
That's what I mean about this being avoidable. I'm not saying this wasn't a self defensive shoot.
We can blather on and on about should he be walking there? Should he have tried to run before shooting?
It's not blathering, in my opinion, when the obvious and predictable outcome to him shooting her is leftist retards burning the state to the ground.
Should he have shot the tire to stop her? (Yes, people are actually saying this & not being sarcastic!)
You clearly already know that, based one the second half...but, yeah, what a bunch of retards. What a joke.
I think sending the National Guard to escort ICE is a proper response to the organized & escalating violence the left is attacking agents with every single day now.
I don't know enough about what it is exactly ICE is hoping to accomplish, and I'm hesitant with further federal involvement...but, yeah, something to that effect seems sensible, if they can avoid incidents like this.
Allowing them this much leeway has only made things worse.
Yup. But, again, I think the inept response also made things worse. We're getting the worst of both worlds; they let these leftists run roughshod...and then killed a woman and sparked off further retardation.
It's a messy situation all around.
While it's true she's been programmed, "what is a woman?" is also a completely unanswerable question to the leftist. The closest answer is 'someone who feels like a woman,' which is of course a total copout. She should have at least had that ready, though.
I've defended plenty of police killings, including this one. I don't think whether or not we as a people are okay with police killing our own citizens is the measure of whether or not we become like Canada, though.
Also, it's worth pointing out Canada is more authoritarian, even if it might not get to physical might as frequently. More trust in government is how you become Canada, not avoiding becoming them.
This is me.
At least you can recognize it. A lot of emotional people don't realize how they're being swayed.
And, to some extent, I think getting hit with the manipulation from both sides can be a good thing, as I think 'be humane and try to see things from each side' is a pretty good position.
I mean, I do think I covered that. She fucked around and found out, I've said that since the beginning. That's undeniable, except to the lunatic leftists.
It still could have been handled differently and, as I said, I think both sides wanted this, sadly. I support deportations - and want more of them - but the way ICE has been going about it has been intentionally provocative. I think they wanted this to come to a head.
All your scenarios assume that Trump is against this.
I mean, the middle one is just that he's greedy. That's more neutral.
I think the biggest indicator that he might be against this, is just how much he changed. Sure, maybe he didn't get the same offers the first time around, but there's still been such a dramatic change in Trump that I think there are some outside forces at work. Maybe that's cope, but that's how I feel. Someone got to him, and he either didn't have the spine to stand up, or just didn't care enough to begin with.
Dude, it's honestly so fucking discouraging.
I've never felt embarrassed to be American. I love America, I love the ideals. Most importantly, these are my People. If we keep pulling this blatantly imperialist, globalist shit, and it's coming from "my team," I don't fucking know where I go from there.
I fought off the blackpill for years. If we actually hit Iran, again, which does seem likely...I just don't know. This isn't the country I want.
At least you realized and changed. I don't hold it against you, honestly. I've known and liked plenty of people who supported Iraq/Afghanistan. People got caught up, I get it. Don't feel shame, there's no point.
They'll never let us peacefully throw off the influence. That's the really blackpilling point. How easy it would be, if they'd just allow the offramp. Just compromise, take the foot off the gas. But, no. They won't allow it. So it's either fight fire with fire, or surrender, it seems. It shouldn't be like this, and if our enemies were sane it wouldn't be like this.