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Eltrion 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yep follow the money. There comes a point where it ceases to be feasible to target the mythical wider audience, and companies shift to simply trying to stop bleeding.

Either that or they can stick their fingers in their ears and "roll left and die". I guess a couple of the corporate suits still have enough sense and greed to try and keep enough cash flow that they can afford their fancy cars and nice bottles of wine. Watch for golden parachutes as they try to make their exits without taking the blame.

Then watch CEO diversity hire roll the company leftwards into whatever ridiculous social cause is trendy in 2024 that we haven't even dreamed of yet, most likely destroying the company.

Then like most Videogame companies with sizable backlogs, watch it's corpse be picked over for franchises, brand names, etc. that you have fond memories of by basically everyone, and the slew of mediocre sequels and revived studios with no connection to the original creators get hyped up with hollow ad campaigns as your inner child becomes more and more disgusted by what happened to his heros and idols and fades away leaving you dead inside.

Turn off the internet. Go play your PS1 or PS2. Remember the PlayStation as it was, as it still is, and divorce it from the modern caricature that is trying to attach itself to the same place in your mind.

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Eltrion 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think the core of the book might be the emotional element of war. The stirring of Nationalism on the moon, and of uncertainty on earth. Almost a "moralization" of a country to get it to stand up for itself. It's also suggested that things like Identitarianisim and cults of personality are effective tools of war and can be used for good. Probably not terribly controversial here, but might have caused a ruckus with other crowds.

Then there is the traditional "Art of War" stuff. Appear strong when you are weak, know your enemy and yourself, men who have no escape will fight to the death. Real big picture stuff about the philosophy of war. Focusing on that rather than the intricacies of battle.

The characters sort of blended together other than Man, Mike and Prof. Why started alright, but then did the typical Heinlein thing where shes likable, but fades into the background a bit. I did like Mimi, but she didn't make a whole lot of appearances.

Ending left a lot to be desired. Kind of an anticlimax with a lot of unsatisfying questions.

Overall I liked it, but felt as with many of Heinlein's works its age hurts it. I'm sure a sentient computer would have been a much bigger plot hook 50 years ago. It's political philosophy isn't exactly challenging to me either, I feel like it would have affected me different if I hadn't already grappled with most of the Ideas. I mean, the Federated Nations basically exist in a slightly different form in real life. Globalized Societies of nationless "citizens of the world" are the norm in some places, and most of the ""sci-fi"" tech that is antiquated by today's standards.

Good book, still prefer "Door to Summer" as my favorite Heinlein work I've red so far, then "Red Planet", then probably this. (Note the glaring omission of "Starship Troopers" from the list of Heinlein books I've read.)

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Eltrion 7 points ago +7 / -0

This seems like the kind of stuff that you'd find in a seedy document on the dark net.

No wonder they're finding it harder and harder to deny that they're groomers

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Eltrion 5 points ago +5 / -0

Especially for how early it was in the days of spaceflight, Heinlein always kept his orbital mechanics very scientifically accurate.

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Eltrion 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yep. Would still get lots of snow here, but maybe I could start my tomatoes outdoors and still hit the prime harvest window.

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Eltrion 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've always heard it as Reddit but less organization and ignorance cranked to max.

And since 2016, you mix in a bunch of your absolute worst, complete bracelet NPC political takes, and you begin to approach a creature that could pass tolerate using Imgur as anything other than free image hosting.

Yes, in spite of everything, it still does a pretty good job as an image host. At least it did last I checked. Haven't really used social media in that way in quite a while now.

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Eltrion 5 points ago +5 / -0

Almost the equivalent of the SRS surgeons for virology.

"Look at all these people who are giving us all this money to try weird experimental shit on them, and will thank us for doing so."

And because of how society is. Any successes are shouted loudly and paraded about, no matter how few, and anyone who suspects they may have been conned is handwaved away.

That's the thing about lobotomies that people forget. There were enough success stories to point to to sell it to the mainstream. But when you can pick a handful from thousands...

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Eltrion 3 points ago +3 / -0

To be fair I had a guy who was 18 or 19 in my grade 4 class. In addition to being non vocal he also had some bone disorder leaving him wheelchair bound.

The end result left him as a large sloth like creature that most of the class found unsettling, rather than anything that would be dangerous to the children.

So situations like that are possible.

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Eltrion 6 points ago +6 / -0

Perhaps, but there are also people who are "chemically different" enough that they honestly believe that they need limbs amputated to be their true self, or that the government is is implanting radios in their teeth. Perhaps the correct solution is not to indulge in a vain attempt to chase physical impossibilities.

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Eltrion 12 points ago +12 / -0

Don't bother sneaking just go back every day until you get a border guard who doesn't care.

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Eltrion 4 points ago +4 / -0

Growing wheat on the moon and space tourism are jest facts of life, but CGI? Basically witchcraft.

Also underlined in this segment is that though you can build a powder keg, you can't always control what sets it off. Ominous considering the state of the world today.

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Eltrion 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, it seems like Man's supposed to have a thick psuedo-russian accent I think, which is a result of the USSR's influence on space colonization in the setting.

The consistency with which pronouns are dropped clued me in that it's just the way he talks rather than a transcription error.

The bits with a bunch of dialogue are sometimes a bit confusing, but when he's just narrating events it's understandable enough.

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Eltrion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds like you've already read the whole book. I'm only basing my judgment on the first four chapters, so if the chain marriage gets into more detail later on, I can't make any judgment on that.

From what I gathered it was the second most senior she slept with instead, and only because she was biologically related to the most senior husband.

Otherwise everything you've said seems relatively reasonable.

I've read Door To Summer, Space cadet, Red Planet, Farmer in the sky, and Between Planets, which i gather were aimed at a younger audience and thus avoid sexual discussions.

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Eltrion 2 points ago +2 / -0

I feel like basically any social structure will inevitably degenerate into either a tournament or pair bonding scenario. There'd have to be some outside force keeping the structure in place I think.

Or just go with nonhuman characters.

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Eltrion 8 points ago +8 / -0

This reminds me a bit of a short story I read where a city gets a computer to make all the decisions for them, but it all starts going poorly, when the computer cucks a guy by assigning his wife to another man and they realize the computer is terrible at emotional logic and worthless at anything that can't be boiled down to an equation. Can't remember the name unfortunately. This appears to be taking a different tack, but may explore similar themes.

Socialists, don't know what they want, how to accomplish it, and if they got it everything would be a mess. It's not exactly subtle commentary...

The idea of a memory bank of 100megabytes is quaint. To big for management at the sector level, but too small to make sense as a discrete device. Maybe in another 50 years I'll be wrong and we will have multi exabyte disks with 100 units of some sort, but I doubt it.

Also quaint is New Leningrad. Easy to mock in hindsight I guess, but it is a reminder of how ephemeral things can be in history that seem so permeant today.

The chain marriage was almost interesting, as I first thought it was structured that each member would have two sexual partners, the one older and the one younger, hence the requirement of alternation, but then it turned out just to be an excuse to talk about a girl getting impregnated by a man old enough to be her grandfather. With just the two partners each, it was almost semi-plausable as an alternative social structure, as it is it's far less interesting, and less believable as anything other than some old dude's harem with extra steps.

Actually, there sure is a lot of pregnancy talk, isn't there.

The idea of this autistic computer being more convincing as a female is a little suspect... But the change does highlight the tendancy to project human traits onto things based on assumptions that may have no grounding in reality, and the vast psychological difference between interacting with someone of the opposite sex vs the same sex. (Is this setting up for robot waifus later on?)

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Eltrion 6 points ago +7 / -1

It's so weird. Canada is right next door, and it's not nearly as common, but still fairly high for a western country. Sure you some people are, but it's seen as a bit odd, and mostly a religious or cultural thing.

Canada is at 30% and falling last I checked. USA is now upwards of 80% which puts it alongside backwater third world shitholes (and South Korea for some reason)

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Eltrion 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's still easily 10:1 men to women, and even greater if you count those that take it seriously enough to achieve a coloured belt, but I've rolled with enough women who are built up from playing hockey to know that at white or blue belt, only most heavily conditioned women have a chance against me, a computer geek who's never taken Athletics seriously.

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Eltrion 9 points ago +9 / -0

https://boysvswomen.com/#/world-record

In most athletic respects, women are effectively 14 year old boys.

BJJ is a sport that allows for genius, and I know historically the occasional brilliant woman has made her mark against men, but like most sports of this nature, how big and strong you are matters most critically when you make a mistake. If you do make a mistake you either have to be fast enough to prevent an effective punish, or strong enough to eat the loss of position.

Little guys are fast, big guys are strong. Women have neither. And as such will be flattened at their first wrong move. In the lower belts, being nearly perfect is sometimes enough, but by brown belt, basically everyone will be nearly perfect. In a lot of cases by that point in their career, chronic injuries and the art of playing around them have begun to appear, which also counts against women because of their frankly shit durability.

I'm not very talented, but I still slow way down when I roll with them. It really is like being against a 13 year old kid. Only real consideration is that some girls have thin boney forearms that are more difficult to defend your neck against, but some skinny boys are like that too. And if your forearms are that thin, chances are you don't have great grip strength.

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Eltrion 17 points ago +17 / -0

The kind of doctors who gravitate to this sort of surgery tend to be the ones that just like cutting things up and stitching them back together rather than being driven by any sense of ethics or helping people.

They also tend to be the kind that aren't talented enough for reconstructive surgery or boobjobs or nosejobs or the other high end cosmetic surgeries.

Hence, the result seen here is not particularly unexpected.

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Eltrion 10 points ago +10 / -0

Seems like the lesson should be "Update Intel regularly and be ready to change plans in accordance with new information"

I'm so far past the "don't make assumptions about people" thing now. Sorry, but I'm going to assume that just about everyone is a mouth breathing retard who only got whatever job they have through nepotism until they prove me otherwise. Even then, it's more likely that someone is a sperg with one or two specific talents than anyone actually worth interacting with.

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Eltrion 7 points ago +7 / -0

Rocket chat. You have to set up the server yourself, but since you host it yourself, no one can tell you what to do with it.

Or you could go real old school and use something like IRC

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