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"We need abortion because of rape/incest!" Wrong (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 11 days ago by SparkMandrill83 11 days ago by SparkMandrill83 +54 / -0
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– Kaarous 26 points 11 days ago +26 / -0

Always was a motte and bailey. A concept everyone should familiarize themselves with.

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– throwawayaccount2037 22 points 11 days ago +22 / -0

I don't get into fact-slapping contests with pro-abortionists often because their stance is always so fickle and tenuous, they barely have anything to stand behind other than prevaricating with the motte and bailey tactic Kaarous mentioned (i.e., they will often defer to how religious folk don't care for kids that aren't aborted, which is a complertely separate topic of discussion from abortion itself).

But this is one of the best charts I have ever seen about the topic. It completely destroys their argument from top to bottom when they try to rationalise around the exceptions of abortion -- those exceptions are practically infinitesimal.

I'm definitely going to save this one. Do you also have the original link on hand or the study this was taken from?

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– TheOutlaw 21 points 11 days ago +21 / -0

I don't get into fact-slapping contests with pro-abortionists

I extend that rule to all leftists. It was never about facts for them, they were always motivated by innate malice. They only understand the language of power and we should act accordingly.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

they will often defer to how religious folk don't care for kids that aren't aborted

Ironically, they'd like to care for the kids but the government has setup a byzantine labyrinth around adoption making it prohibitively difficult unless you are rich enough to dedicate years to the process.

u/freedomlogic brought up foster care; same thing. There are many, many people who would like to foster kids but don't, solely because of how shitty they're treated by the government.

I have a friend whose parents spent 30 years fostering kids. The bureaucrats treated them as bad as the bio parents, despite decades of experience. Their lives are constantly scrutinised, they're talked down to, they had actual criminals dropped on them (and the other kids they were caring for) because "nobody else would take them". It's actually worse for them because they have resources so they're expected, for example, to drive the kids several hours to visit bio-mom at McDonalds for an hour, then drive home and are only compensated for the mileage.

I have to wonder what these numbers would look like if there was a simple first come first serve waiting list, with no screening, for people wanting to adopt, and that list had to be empty before an abortion could be considered.

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– Outlander26 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

Here you go, had to look on the internet archive because the link doesn't work otherwise.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171215125027/http://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/ReasonGestation_2015.pdf

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– throwawayaccount2037 2 points 10 days ago +2 / -0

Thank you very much. I really appreciate this. This is going in my folder.

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– freedomlogic 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

Lol, even one case of rape/incest is to many, but I believe that number is likely higher.

Even at .001% thats still something like 3000 cases according to google ai, but chances are because of the stigma and shame associated with being raped, let alone by a family member likely keep many people from reporting it.

Something like 1 in 4 women will be sexually molested in their life time, and 90% of the time its a family member or close friend of the family.

But yeah, lets just prevent all abortions, overload the foster care with even more kids for the elite to do whatever the fuck it is they are doing lmao. I can tell many of you have had zero experience with the foster care system.

In ohio its pretty bad and from what ive gathered here in canada, its not any better.

Would i abort if it was my child, fuck no. But that doesnt mean im going to judge some poor single woman who is barely paying their rent. Thats up to god, not plebs like us.

I also find it slightly ironic when you think about it that you guys bitch about abortion. But if the economy was better and people werent so poor, everyone would be more apt to have kids, but oh no thats one of those pesky leftist facts? Thats my exact reason for not having any after getting poisoned. I cant take care of myself.

In fact im having "light heart failure" likely from the depleted phosphate, fun stuff.

Im sure it was gods way of punishing me right, poisoning me through some rich fucking asshole like rick the vice president of the appliance recycling centers of america, just so he could save a few dollars on equipment.

Oh no, i repent all my sins, I believe, jesus christ JESUS CHRIST.

delusional

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– current_horror 12 points 10 days ago +12 / -0

I also find it slightly ironic when you think about it that you guys bitch about abortion. But if the economy was better and people werent so poor, everyone would be more apt to have kids, but oh no thats one of those pesky leftist facts? Thats my exact reason for not having any after getting poisoned. I cant take care of myself.

Retarded nonsense. Leftists blame "muh economy" for not having kids but the truth is that the poorest people in the world have the most children. 99% of your ancestors were poorer than you. Money is not the problem. Plenty of wealthy people are not having kids.

Falling birthrates are a direct result of feminism. Worldwide, collapsing birthrates overlap completely with female "education". Women can't spend 75% of their fertility window actively not having children without immediately crashing the birthrate.

But leftists are always trying to blame every societal problem on "insufficient communism". In reality, you all are hedonists. You don't want children because they interfere with your own narcissistic desires. You've been atomized to the point that you no longer feel any sense of duty to propagate, and you've been corrupted by degeneracy to the point that you no longer associate sexual pleasure with procreation.

In other words: you're dysgenic, mentally ill, and evil. And the worst part is you won't simply remove yourselves from the gene pool. You have to fuck up everything you can on your way out.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

chef's kiss

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– Mpetey123 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

Thats up to god, not plebs like us

You don't respect God enough to make him a proper noun. Single moms didn’t get pregnant out of nowhere, if she spreads her legs to fuck around she can find out.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

Im sure it was gods way of punishing me right

Do you think you deserve to be punished?

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– SocraticMethod1 17 points 11 days ago +17 / -0

(Fortunately) The amount of times abortion has been used for cases of rape or incest has been EXTREMELY low, even in the rapeistan capital of the UK.

The TRUE lead in why it's done is self entitled bitches who LOVE the power of it, proving again that most women can't handle any power. At least with men a lot recognise that and would naturally serve those that can in a normal hierarchy.

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– kalerg_plan 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

They want abortion so they can cheat and fuck niggers without consequence.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

This is correct; women's kryptonite is responsibility.

The reason they demand abortions, and not, say, government paying for orphanages, is because they don't ever want to have to face their child coming to find them for closure. They'd rather that child be dead than have to account for their actions.

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– CottonHill 12 points 11 days ago +12 / -0

100,000,000 victims every year in America alone

Over 6,000,000,000 victims so far

More than all the wars, all the plagues, and all the famines in all of human history combined.

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– CottonHill 8 points 11 days ago +8 / -0

ask GPT how many people died in all wars in all of human history, how many died from plagues or famines or natural disasters, ask it to add them all up. The total estimated number that I found was around 700 million.

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– CottonHill 12 points 11 days ago +12 / -0

I asked the AI what was the largest cause of death

About 19.8 million people die per year from cardiovascular diseases (the leading global cause of death) (about 32% of all global deaths) — 2022.

I then asked, "if we include abortions as deaths, what does that 32% figure reduce to, and what percentage of deaths would abortions be?"

it responded with

If you treat abortions as “deaths” by counting all induced abortions (~73 million per year) and you add them to the denominator, then the 32% share for cardiovascular disease would become ~14.0% of total (if abortions are included).

Abortions would be ( 73 / (61.9 + 73) \approx 54.0% ), i.e. ~54% of all “deaths” under this counting method.

"54%, as in more than all other causes combined?"

Yes—under this counting method, abortions would be about 54%, which is more than all other causes combined (about 46%).

GPT-5.4 Nano

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– BeefyBelisarius 14 points 10 days ago +14 / -0

So, the majority of deaths are caused by women's rights. Interesting.

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– TheOutlaw 10 points 11 days ago +10 / -0

I don't care anymore. Even if they were telling the truth about women being harmed by abortion bans that would make me support the bans even more. Like I keep saying they can go die in a fire.

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– GatoradeJeb 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

I supprot abortion free of charge for all illegal aliens, blm, h1b, racemixers, and browns in the usa

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

Any abortion procedure should also remove the woman's reproductive organs, since she's shown she isn't responsible enough to have them.

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– CretinOfLegend 2 points 9 days ago +2 / -0

This is a compromise I'm willing to get behind

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– current_horror 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

The GOP spent all of its political capital fighting abortion instead of immigration. Now there are more abortions than ever, with reductions in only a few red states, and immigration is a complete loss. Yippee.

Also, permitting the destruction of your bloodline because "every abortion is wrong" is cuck behavior.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that's a psyop. They used the strawman "my religion" argument when they should have used "the science" argument and won easily. But they never wanted to win, they wanted everyone to think abortions weren't a big deal.

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– brimshae 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

You can lump the last two together. That's 98.598% elective.

We can argue that they're all elective, but let's stick with this.

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– finsterbaby_too 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

Who gives Af about abortion, you nut job? You want more black and brown people running around?

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– BeefyBelisarius 6 points 10 days ago +6 / -0

Don't forget, blacks and browns ignore laws. If abortion were banned, drug dealers would simply begin selling abortion pills.

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– Mellop 4 points 10 days ago +4 / -0

Arabs solved that problem by castrating their slaves.
Which is arguably a more humane solution than punishing unborn children. Certainly more effective.

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– CretinOfLegend 2 points 9 days ago +2 / -0

This was the critical mistake the west made. That and turning on our brothers in the mid-century...

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– SparkMandrill83 [S] 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

I support abortion and vasectomies for them, not for whites

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– BadManOrange 2 points 10 days ago +2 / -0

Per capita they may have higher numbers, but I'm sure on a sheer numbers game, white people are the highest by a gigantic margin.

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– WeedleTLiar 4 points 10 days ago +4 / -0

One White baby is worth a hundred nons. It's apples to oranges.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

That's a bandaid at best, which rips not arm hairs, but the very souls from our nations when it's removed.

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