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Is the Hail Mary Project movie safe of globohomo stuff?
posted 74 days ago by GoldBanana 74 days ago by GoldBanana +21 / -0

I've heard good things of the movie, and some based comments the director made, so I might go to watch it, but I want to know if it's clear beforehand. Anyone who has watched it can confirm or deny it?

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– HugJugBox 17 points 74 days ago +17 / -0

I mean, the whole story is the world is coming together to save the planet. So, there is a Utopic UN level of diversity whenever there is more than one person on the screen. The leader of the project is a woman. White male lead is the only character with discernable flaws.

That's about all I can come up with having seen it recently and I had to really stretch to come up with even that. I'd have an easier time reading more based themes into it than negative ones. It was surprisingly absent (or I've gotten dull in my old age).

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– TheMafia 13 points 73 days ago +13 / -0

The leader of the project is a woman. White male lead is the only character with discernable flaws.

That's Weir for you. The way the project involves the lead character is morally onerous. He usually hands those roles to women.

If you look at The Martian, the whole story wouldn't happen, unless the flawed judgement of a female commander was involved.

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– LastRights 3 points 73 days ago +3 / -0

The Martian was basically all of diversity incorporated coming together to save a white astronaut bro from being marooned on Mars. The propaganda angle being that 'diversity is a good thing!'

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– TheMafia 4 points 73 days ago +4 / -0

The movie cuts out the whole "travelling across the surface of Mars" portion of the book down to nothing. He dedicates a lot of time to that during which Watney is almost entirely on his own for survival and nearly dies a few times before reaching the Ares.

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– m0r1arty 10 points 74 days ago +10 / -0

The LEGO movie is more apt for the message it tries to give :)

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– undecidedmask2 14 points 74 days ago +14 / -0

And Octan, they make good stuff! Music, dairy products, coffee, TV shows, surveillance systems, all history books, voting machines... wait a minute

Lego Movie Director found dead in an alley.

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– TotalTrannyDeath2 6 points 74 days ago +6 / -0

Directors, the same two also directed Project Hail Mary.

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– Kaarous 8 points 73 days ago +8 / -0

And they spent the entirety of the second movie rebuking any decent message of the first. Ala Joker.

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– What_password 9 points 73 days ago +9 / -0

Everything was not awesome.

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– LastRights 5 points 73 days ago +5 / -0

Not really. The Lego Movie has an ultra-competent girlboss outshining the lead character in martial prowess and other stuff.

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– Cyberguy64 7 points 73 days ago +7 / -0

I've seen someone try to argue that there's a "Care more about the outgroup than your own kind" message baked in. Can't really explain why without spoiling some of the more emotional moments of the film that you really need to go in blind for.

All I can say is that it's hard to argue against the true friendship and self sacrifice presented on both sides of the relationship.

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– Unknownsailor 6 points 73 days ago +6 / -0

I've read the book. While a woman may have been "in charge" of dealing with the astrophage, she did not act like one. I don't know how her story will translate on screen, as I haven't seen it yet, but there was no group consensus seeking with that woman, she made decisions and ran over anyone and everyone who got in her way.

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– horstshort 5 points 73 days ago +5 / -0

That's because Andy Weir is really terrible at writing characters. Project Hail Mary is essentially just The Martian with a different coat of paint. The main character is Mark Watney, the alien is rocky Mark Watney and in the flashback every character that isn't just another Mark Watney is a racial caricature without any depth. Like the Russian who speaks with a Russian accent and likes to drink vodka. Seriously. That's all there is to the character.

I still enjoyed the book but yeah... it's The Martian 2.

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– LastRights 3 points 73 days ago +3 / -0

The story has the veneer of hard science but it's mostly a cookie cutter emotional ride full of highs and lows. Perhaps the book is better, but probably not.

The lead is a down-on-his-luck 'put upon' male character who gets eased into the comfort zone of the audience by downplaying his intelligence and making him self-effacing and humble.

The entire movie is tailored to be as audience-friendly as possible. It was amusing enough and has fisting jokes, which were funny.

Woke elements:

  • Project lead is a ruthless female.
  • the male lead has to find his bravery (again).
  • the male lead's scientific achievements were immediately downplayed, as to not suggest that only white Westerners would be capable of such scientific feats.
  • the male lead has a flutter of jealousy for an interracial couple (black man, white woman, naturally, rofl).
  • the male lead instantly befriends a black character.

The main character is more or less a stand-in for the white man in Western society?

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– TheMafia 2 points 73 days ago +2 / -0

Mostly the same crew as "The Martian" and produced by Gosling himself.

So.. probably not terrible..

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– Mpetey123 1 point 73 days ago +1 / -0

I've heard some interrupt the ending as an endorsement of white replacement.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 1 point 73 days ago +1 / -0

Amazing movie except for the small amount of UN propaganda before he leaves earth

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– LeRiverDanube 1 point 72 days ago +1 / -0

I have no idea how much straw grasping is going in this Fucking shithole of forum. But yes its got no dei shit on it. Ffs most of the movie is ryan gosling with an autistic rock spider.

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