Yep, the only people who actually get their money at full value are the people printing it and those directly connected to them. Everybody else has their money being shaved down year by year.
Also, Trump said he's devaluing the dollar intentionally, because he wants more people to trade in it. He must do this, because lots of nations are separating themselves from the dollar, which continues to weaken it, collapsing the ponzi scheme of the fiat petro dollar. The system is getting closer to collapse.
There are definitely variances between presidents, but truly, they all have to keep deficit spending and money printing by the trillions, or the entire system collapses.
This jpeg post is not representative of inflation. US inflation went up 60% over the past 20 years, while the S&P rose 434% in that same timeframe. You'd have to be an idiot to believe this post title.
This is true, but you would have had to make the right stock picks for this. The majority of the companies that have been on the S&P no longer exist. You can always index fund it, but I'm not seeing the majority of index funds beat or match the S&P.
Plus, it's a shitty method of retirement. It always goes up, sure. It can take 6-13 years to catch up after a large wipe out, and timing can be a huge issue. People should lean more into bonds as they close in on retirement age, but even then there's a pretty big mix.
Not to mention, the mag 7 is pretty much being propped up by passive investment tools. When the market corrects, it's going to be people with 401ks that eat shit.
This casino is not rigged in your favor. If the destruction of money stopped, people could budget and save. Why is it that we had almost 200 years of no (some inflation/some deflation) inflation, and after we get a central bank we lean heavily into usury and inflating our way out of debt to the detriment of the majority of working people.
Have you invested before? ETFs like SPY are literally designed to index the S&P 500, and they have shown a pretty good track record too. SPY went up 700% during the past 20 years. And it doesn't matter if the companies on the S&P change over time, because the ETF handles the stock picks for you.
Obviously you move your portfolio into lower risk options when you're close to retirement, but when you're young there's no reason not to invest. The growth of the stock values doesn't need to match or beat the S&P; hell, it doesn't even need to beat the inflation rate if they're paying dividends. And if you're using tax advantaged accounts like a Roth IRA or HSA, then even better. Not having to pay any taxes on your growth makes a pretty huge difference in the long run.
Well, hang on now. You’re comparing the M2 supply with a stock valuation. This… isn’t how things work. You have to compare the rate of change of that stock over time to the rate of change of inflation over time. Note that this image isn’t even correct because it’s using officially reported stats and not the real inflation rate.
The M2 doesn’t take into account the Eurodollar system, though. You know, the secret system created after WWII where European banks are allowed to print infinity US dollars out of thin air to use for transactions between their banks, and over which the US has no oversight.
Inflation is based on what level of interest jews want to charge us for renting their dollars. That’s what it boils down to. Every Federal Reserve Note in existence has more than its face value in debt in existence as a function of its creation. The debt can, by definition, never be repaid. The rate of interest changes the rate at which new dollars are printed to cover it in the short term, which then directly alters prices of actual goods.
Not sure why you're replying to me a second time, but you absolutely can grow your savings faster than it loses value. My portfolio made +50% returns just in 2025 alone, and weirdly enough, my monthly expenses are still pretty much the same lol.
Some people believe inflation is the change in price of a basket of products/services over time.
Unfortunately, this measure of inflation fails to accounts for changes in price due to changes in the demand and supply of said products/services irrespective of the change in demand from the increase in the money supply.
What happens is that a company borrows money (increases the money supply and thus increases inflation) to increase their production of products/services. This increase in the supply reduces the price of products/services so inflation if measured by change in price of products/services appears to have not changed (or not changed by much) despite the money supply going up because production has also gone up; however, the value of the money has indeed gone down, it's just the price of the products have also gone down because the supply increased.
Measuring inflation as the change in price hides the real inflation of the money.
Yeah but did you hear about how the Dow is over 50,000?
IT'S OVER 50,000!!!
Don't prosecute pedos or everything will crash!
Yes, those are load bearing pedos.
lmao even.
Usury. Nobody can keep up with inflation ever because debt based monetary policy demands more than exists which necessitates further printing.
Yep, the only people who actually get their money at full value are the people printing it and those directly connected to them. Everybody else has their money being shaved down year by year.
Clipped, you might say
Also, Trump said he's devaluing the dollar intentionally, because he wants more people to trade in it. He must do this, because lots of nations are separating themselves from the dollar, which continues to weaken it, collapsing the ponzi scheme of the fiat petro dollar. The system is getting closer to collapse.
There are definitely variances between presidents, but truly, they all have to keep deficit spending and money printing by the trillions, or the entire system collapses.
This jpeg post is not representative of inflation. US inflation went up 60% over the past 20 years, while the S&P rose 434% in that same timeframe. You'd have to be an idiot to believe this post title.
jpg posters get the rope
This is true, but you would have had to make the right stock picks for this. The majority of the companies that have been on the S&P no longer exist. You can always index fund it, but I'm not seeing the majority of index funds beat or match the S&P.
Plus, it's a shitty method of retirement. It always goes up, sure. It can take 6-13 years to catch up after a large wipe out, and timing can be a huge issue. People should lean more into bonds as they close in on retirement age, but even then there's a pretty big mix.
Not to mention, the mag 7 is pretty much being propped up by passive investment tools. When the market corrects, it's going to be people with 401ks that eat shit.
This casino is not rigged in your favor. If the destruction of money stopped, people could budget and save. Why is it that we had almost 200 years of no (some inflation/some deflation) inflation, and after we get a central bank we lean heavily into usury and inflating our way out of debt to the detriment of the majority of working people.
Have you invested before? ETFs like SPY are literally designed to index the S&P 500, and they have shown a pretty good track record too. SPY went up 700% during the past 20 years. And it doesn't matter if the companies on the S&P change over time, because the ETF handles the stock picks for you.
Obviously you move your portfolio into lower risk options when you're close to retirement, but when you're young there's no reason not to invest. The growth of the stock values doesn't need to match or beat the S&P; hell, it doesn't even need to beat the inflation rate if they're paying dividends. And if you're using tax advantaged accounts like a Roth IRA or HSA, then even better. Not having to pay any taxes on your growth makes a pretty huge difference in the long run.
Well, hang on now. You’re comparing the M2 supply with a stock valuation. This… isn’t how things work. You have to compare the rate of change of that stock over time to the rate of change of inflation over time. Note that this image isn’t even correct because it’s using officially reported stats and not the real inflation rate.
Some out-of-the-box(™️) thinkers believe M2 is the proper measure of inflation.
The M2 doesn’t take into account the Eurodollar system, though. You know, the secret system created after WWII where European banks are allowed to print infinity US dollars out of thin air to use for transactions between their banks, and over which the US has no oversight.
Inflation is based on what level of interest jews want to charge us for renting their dollars. That’s what it boils down to. Every Federal Reserve Note in existence has more than its face value in debt in existence as a function of its creation. The debt can, by definition, never be repaid. The rate of interest changes the rate at which new dollars are printed to cover it in the short term, which then directly alters prices of actual goods.
Yes. But M2 doesn’t reflect that in full. And you can’t compare the currency supply to the S&P as though that means anything.
M2 is controlled by the federal reserve under rules set by congress. It's not a measure of anything.
M2 is created by banks lending
Not sure why you're replying to me a second time, but you absolutely can grow your savings faster than it loses value. My portfolio made +50% returns just in 2025 alone, and weirdly enough, my monthly expenses are still pretty much the same lol.
The money that was printed will end up somewhere. We just have to guess where
Jesus they're printing a shitton of money. Remember that this is just what they are admitting on printing. Also seee: total US debt (is it 39T yet?)
I love a good inflation debate.
I too am in the corner where we believe inflation is simply the increase in money supply.
What other things do people believe it to be?
Some people believe inflation is the change in price of a basket of products/services over time.
Unfortunately, this measure of inflation fails to accounts for changes in price due to changes in the demand and supply of said products/services irrespective of the change in demand from the increase in the money supply.
What happens is that a company borrows money (increases the money supply and thus increases inflation) to increase their production of products/services. This increase in the supply reduces the price of products/services so inflation if measured by change in price of products/services appears to have not changed (or not changed by much) despite the money supply going up because production has also gone up; however, the value of the money has indeed gone down, it's just the price of the products have also gone down because the supply increased.
Measuring inflation as the change in price hides the real inflation of the money.
Just wait till the War with Iran really kick off
The US dollar might be so inflated i could probably buy 2$ with one € next month