There's been a lot of discussion about AI and what it will be like and how it is over promoted. The reality is that it will likely be more than expected, but take longer than expected.
https://youtu.be/a2EgfkhC1eo?si=DlTsT2cOrxc95UZF
This is a commercial about the Internet from '93. It has all of the connections and ideas, but thinks there needs to be phone booths and learning areas for people to meet up. They can't imagine YouTube, and Zoom is weird.
We can say the same for all technologies. Imagine explaining trench warfare to Napoleon Bonaparte. How about D&D to Prussian generals. Napoleon knew how to aim cannons, and created a network of food and supplies for his troops. A Prussian king and his generals used wargaming to plan their battles and attacks. None of them could see the way those ideas changed things.
AI is moving fast, and many want a larger market for it. They promote the ideas that fit the ideas for people now. How can AI help a video creator? How can AI help write a paper? How will AI effect medical bureaucracy? These guys know their days are numbered, and will declare even the idea of using it as evil. Even if it helps, their world will be destroyed.
AI itself is not the big thing, it's how suddenly disparate tech can be used together. Have an idea, create videos, toys, games, and even experiences from your home. That is whole industries being turned into one guy at an office. That's what scares so many people.
Is it ready? Only if you know what you are doing. That means use AI and the actual task. I have a coworker who makes toys he's always wanted. Not just stuff invented, but ideas from when he was a kid.
This year I expect picture creation to finish, and videos with actual characters. It looks like full games will be made, both as some sort of pseudo video, or all the programming, level creation, and characters made from separate but interconnected programs. We've gone from 6 fingered weirdos to videos that can show the same guy chatting with someone else while eating spaghetti.
Have some links on the videogame subject.
AI: Videogames
Huanyuan is a dark sheep beating other competition with 3D creation and games
- https://archive.ph/DJqT3
- https://www.wired.com/story/tecent-3d-models-video-game-design-artificial-intelligence/
Game designer admits he uses Figma to design the game UI and AI programs it in as seen.
Flight simulator for the browser
Roblox goes game design with AI.
GDevelop is an AI game design program. No code, just commands.
Quake ported to 3JS by Claude
Level 5 explains how they use AI
- https://x.com/i/status/2003594997501931610
- https://www.kantei.go.jp/jp/singi/titeki2/ai_kentoukai/gijisidai/dai4/siryou1.pdf
- https://decasimcentral.wordpress.com/2023/12/12/level-5-gives-examples-of-ai-use-in-their-projects-including-generation-of-character-concepts-and-quests-in-decapolice/
Similar subject with gaussian blurring as a basis
AI: VG: Genie 3
Mario Kart
A fish must escape the kitchen
Japanese village
Walking on a small planet in claymation
Pokemon
Blockbuster
Persona
Zelda
Halo
Mr Rogers Trolley Game
Christ on the Cross
GTA
Cigarette pack on a dirty floor
Flying around a photograph
Doom
From a painting
Fortnite
The Shire
Genie 3 is following the AI pattern of starting at crap
Investors are selling videogame company stock.
- https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/gaming-market-melts-down-after-google-reveals-new-ai-game-design-tool-project-genie-crashes-stocks-for-roblox-nintendo-cd-projekt-red-and-more
- https://archive.ph/jWksE
AI: VG: Lingbot
Lightbox is an open source rendition of Genie 3.
- https://x.com/i/status/2017911410513076340
- https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2017911410513076340.html
- https://archive.ph/T0oCd
A promotional video
AI: VG: Claude Game Engines
A Claude connection to Unreal Engine makes a whole building by prompt
Claude now connects to Unity, Unreal, and Blender
Claude made a game engine for the Neo Geo. It had to write code for a 90’s chip set in the proper format of the era.
Claude made a space ship shooter with three levels for fun.
Quake on 3JS via Claude.
AI: VG: Zelda Trailer
Seriously good Legend of Zelda trailer
An 80 second tutorial on how it was made.
AI:VG: 3D Worlds
Explore a World War I Trench
Gaussian blur star ship to explore
AI: VG: Graphical Upgrades
AI as a graphics rendering layer is the future. Shown by Witcher 3
A company that is making games based on AI with graphical updates as well
With AI upgrading at real time. The idea of graphical updates doesn't make sense. Nintendo suddenly has more than expected.
North Korea in GTA 5 looks real except the animations
This brings up why so many companies are buying others. Netflix forgot that Warner Bros makes games. They want the IP. In fact, the thing that is keeping these companies afloat is products they made years ago. Nintendo seems to have realized that and is expanding beyond videogames. Who knows how all of that will end up.
So, I think AI is doing great, people recognize what it is doing and what it will destroy. Also, only a few people know how to use it, which means lots of fluffery to save a company.
Just to add to what you've already put in a rather succinct way, getting paid for human made art was already being a bit diverted for a good decade before AI ever came to the table.
Lots of corporate outsourcing to Chinese art-sweatshops for a variety of 2D and 3D art. Amazon trying to push their Kindle and ebook market which led to a swathe of no-name amateur authors who couldn't write for shit suddenly getting "published", while also getting paid chump change. All the crap with DEI and the dumb games book publishers were playing.
And then there's everything we've seen going on with Hollywood and television, and game development. From DEI and political agendas to trying to appeal to global markets. Oversaturation and flooding every possible avenue with more crap than people realistically have time for, and very little of it being very appetizing or good in the first place.
Agreed. Creativity actually flourishes, but it is the opposite opinion that is getting shoved in our faces.
Don't forget music, either.
I've got some co-workers who are terrible coders and they use AI for just about everything, and not only is the code they produce bad, because they don't know what they're doing, but they use AI to do less. Like they basically use AI so they can remain at 1x and sit with their thumbs up their butts.
AI is eating up juniors and pajeet jobs. The latter is a good thing, the former I'm not sure how that will unfold. At the end of the day you still need to know what you're doing to be successful with AI, is we have future generations who never learned to do things themselves it'll be interesting to see what happens.
I've heard AI being described as a force multiplier, and I think that is an apt description in most cases. If you're retarded or have poor work ethic, it probably isn't going to make you all that much better. But for people who are motivated and already know what they're doing it can elevate them even further.
Aye. This is why I prefer to use AI to help me learn what I need to know to solve something rather than having it just spit out the code/answer and call it a day.
I might let myself take shortcuts for fairly tedious and trivial matters though. Situations where I'd have to write an entire script to streamline the process for a one-time use.
They also don't want to hire AI, or misuse it to prove it doesn't work.
AI is affecting bad movies more than good ones. Derek Savage is making AI slop movies now and it sucks.
the difference between ai and other technologies is that AI is centralized and controlled from on high. sure, there are open source projects to run AI locally, but those are the minority and not the primary use cases for consumer AI. usage of AI for the average person is dependent almost entirely on the whims of the owner of the data center or corporation renting the Data center.
While I think the powers that be will do what they can to keep that being the case, I'm not sure they'll be able to succeed. While state of the art flagship AI tools will likely be unable to be run locally for the near future, I can't help but feel like efficiency improvements will pile up and what is capable on personal machines will continue to increase exponentially, just lagging a bit behind the best of the best.
The biggest danger to be wary of is the government passing some sort of law to ban running stuff like this locally. I could definitely see them packaging something like that in a "think of the children" wrapper and normies guzzling it down.
except the chip manufacturers already recognized that regular people are not their audience, data centers are.
RAM and GPUs are already in short supply and manufacturers are reducing production for the consumer market.
They won't need to pass legislation because at home computing will be """obsolete"""
For that to occur, RAM and chips would have to be completely removed from the consumer market. I do not see any reason to believe that will happen. The backlash would be enormous even among normies. But normies can be herded into anything with enough propaganda applied consistently over a long enough time so it's definitely something we need to watch out for.
They don't care about normie backlash unless it translates into something tangible. But if they're already restricting access to hardware, what other fungible results could normies concoct?
I think they will focus on producing streaming services for gaming more aggressively just like TV/movies and herd normies that way. It's not like the normies can or will do anything about it. Most of them already consume a lot of sub-based slop, so if Netflix -- for instance -- opened up a streaming gaming service on top of their TV/movies, most normies would accept it if they cannot upgrade their PC any longer.
Everything you said here is dead on. And what the rulers are most threatened about is the fact that they won't be able to hold onto the control forever. It's impossible. That, and non-woke countries will allow AI to prosper and everyone will eventually have access to their tools.
Outstanding post. I need to read through it more carefully, but saw this first:
What most people are actually scared about is the fact that the woke cult won't be able to force their propaganda into every facet of existence. Entertainment media will be created easily and with no woke (or even pushing right wing ideology) bullshit. This is why we'll see massive pushback. They'll use the lies of unemployment or environment to win support for the extreme regulations that are coming. But they won't win because AI will be too widely accessible.
I think we need to sort "AI" vs "language learning models" in our heads. AI has existed since the beginning, especially for games as primitive if else statements.
LLMs are something quite different and must ve thought of differently, and they are heavily reliant on good dataset inputs. The old Internet was full of that, but people are going to increasingly restrict access to their information, and the snake eating its tail will degrade.
I fear LLMs will kill the open Internet we grew up with via incentives.
Honestly, a lot of AI for videogames has been dumped down for more control. You can see the difference between enemies in Half Life 1 vs Half Life 2.
Maybe AI and pajeetification of the world will make Whites unemployable and push them towards mass uprising.
This might explain how AI will disrupt gaming development
But how will AI disrupt or change the future of software? Will all software companies go bankrupt? Or will we still have software that simply implements AI into it?
Will AI be used to surveil our bank accounts and all our transactions?
How much of stock market trading is AI ?
Stock Market trading has been AI for over 20 years. My dad got into trading for a year, and almost everything was AI trading. Imagine all of those GPUs for Bitcoin doing the same for stock trading and you get the idea.
It has me wondering if we will turn into a services for services industry. A lot of entertainment is like that. I'll bring my arcade game if you bring food and Dave provides facilities. The people that want to hang out provide for our needs to get in. $200,000 for the layman, and $3,000 for the guy with connections.
I think the safest thing is for everyone to have access to monitoring AI. Not just a company, but anyone.
The same way bureaucracies switched from paper to digital decades after the rest of the world, I expect the same for AI. Efficiency isn't really relevant; following outdated or poorly constructed rules, no matter how pointless, is practically the defining feature of bureaucracies everywhere. Bureaucrats, especially government ones, probably have excellent job security.
Yeah, my dad is a doctor. Getting everything documented and properly set in a database in a full-time job. I nearly wrote Dull Time and that would be more accurate.
What I expect is that the equipment and tech to do things will likely come through entertainment and veterinary medicine. Less regulations. Hobbyists will have a heavy hand as well as they use the same tech to scan their own equipment for faults. It will be a bifurcated market of what we will call Hobbyists and the official medicine. The same happened with Wikipedia and academia. Eventually, academia used the wikis.
If it keeps going backwards- it will be able to control our nuclear launch codes soon
I look forward to playing Doom on a nuclear launch machine.
intenet was wild west and mostly unregulated for pretty much up until popularity of modern facebook and smart phones. Up until "normal" people got easy access to it.
Yeah, a lot of the promotions are for social media style ai.
Amazing compilation. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Does anyone here use AI for coding? If so what tools do you think are the best currently? Have had some success with Claude and Grok in the past but I know things change rapidly as the months go by.
For planning out the program I use ChatGPT. For the actual code I use Claude. Grok is nice but I haven't used it enough to figure it out.
Yes, it goes way too fast.
A lot of what I do is just copy+paste into chatGPT. Table schema, function stubs, a handful of functions or classes or what not, and then ask questions, ask to implement a narrow function, etc. It's been super useful for that.
VERY useful with SQL. I'm pretty good with SQL but llms are SQL wizards.
I've been using Claude for just a few weeks. It's pretty insane, but I have not gotten that deep into the agentic coding.
We tend think a new thing will only have limited effect and definitely won't change everything else in life and society. That is true for most things but it definitely wasn't true for the printing press, TV, cars or the internet.
Why couldn't we imagine working from home with video meetings and shopping online? Because of normalcy bias and we thought because those things had always been done in person that must be the only way it can be done. That turned out to be dead wrong. And the people who think AI won't completely upend the world will also be dead wrong.
There's no reason why AI couldn't exceed human intelligence and completely outclass us in every way like an alien superspecies complete with athletic yet superstrong robot bodies. Humans are going to feel way less important and depression is going to skyrocket once AI can do literally everything much better than you without even trying. And we'd all be at the mercy of whoever has the most/best AI/robots and they could treat us like cattle. Or maybe the AI will just turn on humans as a whole and kill us or find ways to exploit our biological processes for energy. Any cheers for AI today are very shortsighted.
The inter net was much better.