This is bad. You have to understand that hospitals pay malpractice insurance, you’re essentially billing the consumers for the hospitals fuck ups. This will only make healthcare expenses worse and then government will step in and bail out the “too big to fail” hospital conglomerates. These hospitals won’t be allowed to fail in the capitalist model like they should. We need prison sentences, not fines.
Not to mention the elephant in the room: The victim is female. The only reason we're getting any traction against the troons is because they made the mistake of biting the hand that feeds them.
I like your thought process. The sentence should be getting transed with a suspended death sentence. The death sentence only stays suspended as long as they participate in the tranny dating scene.
Yes BUT this was civil court, no jail time can be given. It opens the doors to actual criminal trials though, giving precedent, hopefully.
4M is chickenfeed, but the threat of many more cases does make them nervous. This will hopefully put their crusade to mutilate children "on pause" at least temporarily. But probably not.
If it gets bad enough, the insurance Cos will yank coverage, THAT will slow them down!
Civil court has a far lower bar of evidence and has been abused into absurdity. Insurance companies will spike premiums, which the government will bail out, or they will drop selected coverages which the government will bail out. Gender surgeries were not included on malpractice insurance policies until the government stepped in. Anything involving the judiciary or litigation have been corrupt for nearly a century now, they’re not going to magically this change when they can pass the bill to the taxpayers.
To be fair, everything will make healthcare expenses worse.
Instead of increasing 60% this year, healthcare might increase 61% to account for higher insurance. Oh noes!
I'm not in the US but I could never afford health insurance in the US anyway. I know people paying $1000 per month for healthcare insurance. Not for services (they'd have to pay a deductible/etc), just for insurance.
$1000 is my entire budget for the entire month, everything included.
It's too late to care about this, health care is so expensive it makes no sense already. Health insurance costs at least $500/mo, whether it's you, your employer, or the government paying for it. There are 3 doctors per 1000 people. Do the math, that's $2M per doctor per year BEFORE anyone ever gets a bill.
There's never going to be a 95% reduction in this fraud by calm and calculated measures. Just pile it on because it isn't real. Piss into the ocean of piss. Hope the damn breaks.
Your math is horrible. Let’s start with reality, healthcare pays over 20 billion a year adjusting to new healthcare regulations from the government each year. There’s then 5 administrative personnel for each doctor for existing regulations. On top of that there’s 100s of other forced jobs by the government like patient advocates. Then you have the revolving door of networks which changes yearly on which doctors they cover. Oh and don’t forget Medicare and Medicaid which forces the doctors/hospitals to take less money and operate at a loss. Then there the corrupt regulations that force hospitals to buy new equipment before they even pay off old equipment. Hospitals are conglomerating just to keep above water because the entire system is designed fraud by government regulation.
The only thing your “solution” will do is add more government regulation, if you want more imported Indian “doctors”, mega conglomerates, and 500 dollar PCP visits be my guest. No matter how bad you think it is now it’s nowhere near how bad it will get, for decades, before the system breaks, if it does as at all.
Your solution is to let psychopaths cut kid's genitals off because fighting against it might make a bad number go from 20 billion to 20 billion and one. You can work your whole life and you'll never remove even one medical regulation. These things don't get dialed back. They collapse. That's how it works.
Your solution is to let psychopaths cut kid's genitals off because fighting against it might make a bad number go from 20 billion to 20 billion and one.
If you think civil suits will stop this you’re beyond discourse.
You can work your whole life and you'll never remove even one medical regulation. These things don't get dialed back. They collapse. That's how it works.
NOTE: she was 16 at the time they chopped her breasts off.
I genuinely believe surgeons get an erection from doing this surgery. It's a weird fetish thing. If you know surgeons, they're already pretty weird lol
Some probably do fetishise it. There's also the knowledge that you are pretty much tethering that person to ongoing medical care for the rest of their life, meaning a predictable income stream, and a ongoing benefit to yourself as a result.
The entire industry, and participants, around transgenderism, is one giant fetish. I'm sure a very small portion are only there for the money, but the vast, overwhelming majority, are getting off on it. Including the BPD moms with transhausen syndrome.
16 isn't a child you intellectually dishonest cunt. She mutilated herself for her sexual fetishes and then regretted it. by the same metric anyone who gets a tattoo or a piercing should have the right to sue whoever gave it.
You sound familiar. Do you also happen to believe that marrying children, I'm sorry, NOT children according to you, is a good thing?
by the same metric anyone who gets a tattoo or a piercing should have the right to sue whoever gave it.
Correct. If I am transabled and a 'doctor' chops off my hand because I'm delusional, should I not have the right to sue him if I ever return to being (relatively) sound of mind?
You sound familiar. Do you also happen to believe that marrying children, I'm sorry, NOT children according to you, is a good thing?
Do you think them whoring around before they're even legal is a good thing? I'd rather the age of consent be lowed to the point where girls are becoming sexually active rather than having a system that ensures nearly all women lose their virginity before even hitting the legal market.
Correct. If I am transabled and a 'doctor' chops off my hand because I'm delusional, should I not have the right to sue him if I ever return to being (relatively) sound of mind?
In Canada the AoC was 14 for a long time. The NDP Party wanted to lower it to 12. Well, their super-famous "first gay MP" did & they didn't immediately kick him out.
It didn't "help" anything except paedophiles. When the Conservatives finally raised to to 18 (effectively, 16 at a minimum) the Liberal Senate blocked it for 9 months... even the CBC was disgusted by that.
Kids can have sex with other kids, it's the adults who the AoC applies to. So long as there was no authority, money or booze involved? A 60 year-old could bang a boy or girl after their 14th birthday. Perfectly legal back then, thanks to the Liberal Party of course 😡 Oh, giving them pot was OK said some liberal judge...
it makes it so that men who missed out on sex in their teenage years CAN NEVER EXPERIENCE YOUNG LOVE AND ARE FOREVER BEHIND OUR PEERS
it's the adults who the AoC applies to. So long as there was no authority, money or booze involved? A 60 year-old could bang a boy or girl after their 14th birthday. Perfectly legal back then, thanks to the Liberal Party of course 😡
And? That's better than the shitty system we have now where men like me are expected to settle for old used up whores rather than experiencing love with someone equally innocent.
A very small win, like OJ losing the civil lawsuit to the family of those two he definitely didn't kill.
The jurors found that in many respects the surgeon and psychologist had skipped important steps when evaluating if she should go forward with the surgery and had not adequately communicated with each other. These missteps were a “departure from the standard of care,” they decided.
The problem is that 'the standard of care' is totally messed up too. So these people slipped up by not covering their ass enough.
The moderate position is life in prison for these 'doctors'.
Not to blackpill. This is clearly an advance compared to the previous nonsense that was going on.
Hopefully these former kids can sue the parent who signed the forms as well. May seem pointless, but the parent apparently cares not for posterity and likely would have left a their money to a communist cause of some kind.
Indeed it is the same case.
The initial $2M was damages, then came "...with $1.6 million for past and future pain and suffering, and another $400,000 for future medical expenses." So now it's 4M total.
The Mom is saying that she opposed it back then, but was afraid the kid would commit suicide, something she says the psychiatrist reinforced. :/
This is bad. You have to understand that hospitals pay malpractice insurance, you’re essentially billing the consumers for the hospitals fuck ups. This will only make healthcare expenses worse and then government will step in and bail out the “too big to fail” hospital conglomerates. These hospitals won’t be allowed to fail in the capitalist model like they should. We need prison sentences, not fines.
Not to mention the elephant in the room: The victim is female. The only reason we're getting any traction against the troons is because they made the mistake of biting the hand that feeds them.
Death sentences are more appropriate.
Eye for an eye. Trans the doctors.
I like your thought process. The sentence should be getting transed with a suspended death sentence. The death sentence only stays suspended as long as they participate in the tranny dating scene.
They also have to give oral to trannies from both sexes, at least once a month.
No. Cruel treatments are forbidden by the constitution.
True, but this isn't cruel, according to their own beliefs.
Good point.
The sympathetic detransitioners propped off have all been young regretful women by my memory.
No pity or justice for the chipdick autists.
Yes BUT this was civil court, no jail time can be given. It opens the doors to actual criminal trials though, giving precedent, hopefully.
4M is chickenfeed, but the threat of many more cases does make them nervous. This will hopefully put their crusade to mutilate children "on pause" at least temporarily. But probably not.
If it gets bad enough, the insurance Cos will yank coverage, THAT will slow them down!
Civil court has a far lower bar of evidence and has been abused into absurdity. Insurance companies will spike premiums, which the government will bail out, or they will drop selected coverages which the government will bail out. Gender surgeries were not included on malpractice insurance policies until the government stepped in. Anything involving the judiciary or litigation have been corrupt for nearly a century now, they’re not going to magically this change when they can pass the bill to the taxpayers.
To be fair, everything will make healthcare expenses worse.
Instead of increasing 60% this year, healthcare might increase 61% to account for higher insurance. Oh noes!
I'm not in the US but I could never afford health insurance in the US anyway. I know people paying $1000 per month for healthcare insurance. Not for services (they'd have to pay a deductible/etc), just for insurance.
$1000 is my entire budget for the entire month, everything included.
Taken far enough, precedents will make the types of procedures uninsurable. Hospitals will stop pushing their doctors to do them.
No, the state governments in blue states will fund it with federal tax dollars. Then republicans will cuck and judges will rule coverage mandates
It's too late to care about this, health care is so expensive it makes no sense already. Health insurance costs at least $500/mo, whether it's you, your employer, or the government paying for it. There are 3 doctors per 1000 people. Do the math, that's $2M per doctor per year BEFORE anyone ever gets a bill.
There's never going to be a 95% reduction in this fraud by calm and calculated measures. Just pile it on because it isn't real. Piss into the ocean of piss. Hope the damn breaks.
Your math is horrible. Let’s start with reality, healthcare pays over 20 billion a year adjusting to new healthcare regulations from the government each year. There’s then 5 administrative personnel for each doctor for existing regulations. On top of that there’s 100s of other forced jobs by the government like patient advocates. Then you have the revolving door of networks which changes yearly on which doctors they cover. Oh and don’t forget Medicare and Medicaid which forces the doctors/hospitals to take less money and operate at a loss. Then there the corrupt regulations that force hospitals to buy new equipment before they even pay off old equipment. Hospitals are conglomerating just to keep above water because the entire system is designed fraud by government regulation.
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
The only thing your “solution” will do is add more government regulation, if you want more imported Indian “doctors”, mega conglomerates, and 500 dollar PCP visits be my guest. No matter how bad you think it is now it’s nowhere near how bad it will get, for decades, before the system breaks, if it does as at all.
Your solution is to let psychopaths cut kid's genitals off because fighting against it might make a bad number go from 20 billion to 20 billion and one. You can work your whole life and you'll never remove even one medical regulation. These things don't get dialed back. They collapse. That's how it works.
If you think civil suits will stop this you’re beyond discourse.
How did that work for roe?
Without Trump in office? This never would have happened.
There's still endless appeals & so forth, but it's a first step!
NOTE: she was 16 at the time they chopped her breasts off. They prey on children, it was always like this, it was their goal from the beginning.
I genuinely believe surgeons get an erection from doing this surgery. It's a weird fetish thing. If you know surgeons, they're already pretty weird lol
Some probably do fetishise it. There's also the knowledge that you are pretty much tethering that person to ongoing medical care for the rest of their life, meaning a predictable income stream, and a ongoing benefit to yourself as a result.
Always follow the money
The entire industry, and participants, around transgenderism, is one giant fetish. I'm sure a very small portion are only there for the money, but the vast, overwhelming majority, are getting off on it. Including the BPD moms with transhausen syndrome.
Gender affirming care on minors? That NEVER happens!
click whirrrrrrr ca-chunk
REEEEEEEEEEEE it happens all the time and it's a good thing you BIGOT!!!
I prefer transsexual surgery
16 isn't a child you intellectually dishonest cunt. She mutilated herself for her sexual fetishes and then regretted it. by the same metric anyone who gets a tattoo or a piercing should have the right to sue whoever gave it.
You sound familiar. Do you also happen to believe that marrying children, I'm sorry, NOT children according to you, is a good thing?
Correct. If I am transabled and a 'doctor' chops off my hand because I'm delusional, should I not have the right to sue him if I ever return to being (relatively) sound of mind?
Do you think them whoring around before they're even legal is a good thing? I'd rather the age of consent be lowed to the point where girls are becoming sexually active rather than having a system that ensures nearly all women lose their virginity before even hitting the legal market.
That's absolutely retarded.
You're trying new ways of ban evasion, but you'll never deny that this is what you want.
That's retarded, and pedophilia is good.
What ban evasion? Am I not allowed to express a desire that the specifics of a law be slightly tweaked?
In Canada the AoC was 14 for a long time. The NDP Party wanted to lower it to 12. Well, their super-famous "first gay MP" did & they didn't immediately kick him out.
It didn't "help" anything except paedophiles. When the Conservatives finally raised to to 18 (effectively, 16 at a minimum) the Liberal Senate blocked it for 9 months... even the CBC was disgusted by that.
Kids can have sex with other kids, it's the adults who the AoC applies to. So long as there was no authority, money or booze involved? A 60 year-old could bang a boy or girl after their 14th birthday. Perfectly legal back then, thanks to the Liberal Party of course 😡 Oh, giving them pot was OK said some liberal judge...
that is my whole fucking problem with it
it makes it so that men who missed out on sex in their teenage years CAN NEVER EXPERIENCE YOUNG LOVE AND ARE FOREVER BEHIND OUR PEERS
And? That's better than the shitty system we have now where men like me are expected to settle for old used up whores rather than experiencing love with someone equally innocent.
Oh, AoV was right, you're a paedophile. My mistake for thinking you were human.
Wanting a universal age of consent does not make me a pedophile. if anything I am MORE against minors having sex than most people.
FYI, you're talking to the guy called 'Pedo Pajeet'.
Ah, I suddenly see that in his latest comment.
Thanks for the 'heads up' eh?
A very small win, like OJ losing the civil lawsuit to the family of those two he definitely didn't kill.
The problem is that 'the standard of care' is totally messed up too. So these people slipped up by not covering their ass enough.
The moderate position is life in prison for these 'doctors'.
Not to blackpill. This is clearly an advance compared to the previous nonsense that was going on.
Appeal filing: "But we mutilated a 16 year old girl to pwn the chuds!"
Appellate judge: "Case dismissed!"
Hopefully this spikes malpractice insurance on mutilation surgeries alone and not all surgeries.
It will be specific to this kind of surgery, there's already a wide range of lawsuits for nearly everything else, eh? Some legit, others not so much.
Is this the same one as the 2 million suit in New York, or different.
Archive ink didn't work for me. Endless captchas.
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/1ARws6r3oG/1st-detransitioner-to-take-a-med/c
Hopefully these former kids can sue the parent who signed the forms as well. May seem pointless, but the parent apparently cares not for posterity and likely would have left a their money to a communist cause of some kind.
Indeed it is the same case.
The initial $2M was damages, then came "...with $1.6 million for past and future pain and suffering, and another $400,000 for future medical expenses." So now it's 4M total.
The Mom is saying that she opposed it back then, but was afraid the kid would commit suicide, something she says the psychiatrist reinforced. :/
I'd call that a small win. A huge win would be a video of the death penalty being carried out on the psychopaths that hurt that person.