Was at work today and my (female) coworkers started talking about medication for some reason. Keep in mind we are 12 women and 2 men (I'm a high school teacher, grade 9).
Six of the women were there and they started chatting about what medication they take, because that's a normal topic of conversation apparently. It went something like this:
Women1: "I started taking Prozac after my second pregnancy. I had a postpartum."
Women 2: "I did too, but I was prescribed attivan, but I got too many side effects with my Seroquel"
Women 3: "Doc wanted to put me on Seroquel but he upped my Prozac dose instead."
Women 4: "Oh my god, my concerta dose got increased too and to help me sleep, he put me on Rivotril. I hate Rivotril, it makes me like a zombie."
Women 1: "The dose is too high. Try to add some Vyvense too."
Women 5: "Vyvense? They wanted to put my son on that because Ritalin wasn't working."
Women 2: Buproprion was a really lifechanger for me. Helps me function during the day
If this is hard to follow, sorry, but it was hard to follow for me too. All this to say that out of the six women that were there, at least five were on some of that garbage.
I understand that it's a teaching job, but... C'mon. Those women were defending their medication as if their entire life was depending on it. And they seemed proud of it too, like a badge of honor. "Omg I'm taking some chemical shit with tons of side effects just so I can pretend I'm happy!"
And apparently, they talk about it openly like it's no big deal.
I found it absolutely pathetic. But it got even worse, later, when I was discussing alone with one of the few coworkers I don't find unbearable (she wasn't there in the interaction above, let's call her Women #7).
Woman #7 is one of the rare women I consider "adjusted" and "normal".
"Can you believe this? They were talking about all the medication they take and the list was so long we could have opened a pharmacy just with their prescriptions."
"I understand, I got very severe side effects when I started medication.
"What?"
"My heart would be pumping hard and I couldn't sleep at night. I'd get panic attacks in the middle of the nights and they wanted to add something to 'knock me out' like the doctor said, but I said no. They had to cut my doses, but now I just don't feel anything. Everything is flat."
I swear, I've never felt so low in my life. I really thought this woman was "normal" and had an okay life. She always seemed like a good teacher, happy, "épanouïe." Bleh.
At least 50% of the women that I work with are medicated/sedated with garbage pills. And let's face it, the real number is probably higher than that. As I said, I understand, teaching is a shitjob and it's their way to cope with how horrible this job is, but still...
And then I got to think of a pic of her I saw on the fridge (in the teachers room) and how thin she was. She gained a good 40 lbs in the last 2-3 years I'd say. Which is a normal side effect of antidepressants.
Seriously, what the fuck
I'll be blunt, women were not meant to have this much access to social media and the news cycle. The ability to have their "greater" empathy weaponized against them because of a horror event X amount of miles away, in a 24/7 cycle instead of the local town news gossip is merely another facet of the targetted, multispectrum Societal White Noise machine used against every level of the West.
Men are also affected, but increasingly have become immune to a degree as disenfranchisement of the capable from all levels of merited rewards and civilizational investment cause them to "Shrug", and go "not my problem anymore".
That' s usually how I unwind after a long day. No SSRI's or other chemical concoction. Just straight natural green.
Abandon the blue pill smoke. Embrace the true Nectar of tabbacco.
You have to understand two things, to the average woman the worst injury imaginable is feeling bad (because they're too sheltered to viscerally imagine anything worse), and they can never be wrong in how they handle their emotions.
So to them, the fact that they're on those mood altering meds means the hardships they're enduring are so great they couldn't possibly have handled those emotions without them. Those prescriptions are their purple hearts that they display proudly, those dosage debates are their war stories. And I mean that literally, if they're talking amongst themselves they will 100% act like them turning themselves into an emotional trainwreck over a moderately stressful job is every bit as great of a sacrifice as men who fought and died in the trenches, and they'll convince themselves that men are too emotionally retarded to understand their suffering just because they're generally capable of not acting incontinent with their feelings in a crisis.
Just like they all brag about being raped. Tale as old as time. They are all martyrs in their tiny brain universe, and you better believe they're gonna gleefully tell ya all about how they've suffered.
I hate how many medications people put themselves on, yet get no exercise, eat like trash, get minimal sleep and stay inside all day with no sunlight or fresh air.
I know a few women who love to use the term "my brain".
Women hate taking accountability, so anything that is wrong with them personality wise is actually just something wrong with their brain.
Yes, one stat showed that one in three women were on SSRIs.
The last time I used the dating apps half a decade ago, any bird in the West was on some kind of endocrine medication.
They're completely lost.
Hey now, don't forget the booze and illicit drugs they take on top of their zombie meds.
Judging by what one of our other users said when he flamed out of teaching in Canada, those women need way more pills than that.
ETA: Are you that same guy?
Not that women in America aren't similarly messed up, but I was reading OP's post and couldn't help but think "Is this dude from Canada?" Then I saw the username...
Those people are teaching kids.
Nailed it, that would be why the entire administration is about managing feelibgs rather than academic acheivement.
They aren't even masters of their own brains yet we are to surrender our kids to them??
Crazy kikery
I hand out so many of these pills at work it makes me sick. 75% of people in the hospital, especially elderly and women, are on psych drugs. Its a fucking epidemic.
And they see nothing wrong with it.
If one of them said it was bad alllll the other hens would cluck at them negatively. And the one thing women avoid more than anything else is negative attention. They'd literally kill their own kid if they thought every one else would condemn them for keeping it.
As someone who was raised by a mother like that I didn't even realize there was anything abnormal about it. I had to take a handful of drugs for "behavioral issues" every morning since I was in elementary school.
Note how many of them were post partum. Pregnancy can mess someone up. I've seen women have personality changes.
Does pregnancy mess someone up or does it expose a flaw/weakness that was already there and had been repressed for years/decades?
Bit of both. It gets even weirder when you realize there are cultural trainings as well.
Any thoughts on what causes the post partum? Not the "accepted" answers I could potentially get from Google, but real hypotheses that might actually be correct. Perhaps side effects of all their whacky drugs? Shitty diet? Combo of the two?
The truth be told, post partum mania has been known for a very long time. Look up the old stories of the Changeling. A woman believes a child is not hers and goes crazy believing it to be some other creature. Before that point she was fairly sane. For many it can take years but most do recover.
Hysterics of women is a more recent trend. Possession is an older one, but has many of the same descriptions.
The body creates another body and the brain goes overtime to compensate. After the baby is born the brain goes into recovery mode and the woman can't quiet handle reality. A screaming baby doesn't help with that either.
Since some mental illnesses are genetic but only show up after a certain age, we know the body can alter itself and it effects the mind. So, a baby being made wouldn't be a shock at all of the mental illness. If they already have mental illness, it may be strengthened or even take over.
Then we have the medications. My son has mental illnesses from his bio parents, and it takes work to keep that regulated. If you get the wrong meds it can screw him up. It's sometimes better to just let him have the illness. Now imagine people being given Zoloft or Wellbutrin when they are recovering from a birth. Then say they must take the medicine and other stuff.
Recipe for disaster.
Isn't the average elderly American taking 4-5 medications a day, one up from 2000 during which they were averagely taking 3-4?
It's not that uncommon for people to be taking over ten medications in one day.
Quebec is healthier by some metrics, e.g. obesity, than the rest of Canada and the whole of the United States, probably owing to the fact that some of their laws are quite different, e.g. Quebec's Consumer Protection Act has laudably kept obesity lower than in the rest of Canada, but I doubt it's healthy to the extent that you would expect the average person to be on zero medications.
Methylphenidate, 'Vyvanse' - For ADHD
Clonazepam, lorazepam - For anxiety and panic disorders
Quetiapine - For psychosis, anxiety disorders
Bupropion - For depressive disorders, nicotine cravings
Noticeably, all mental health problems, not physical ones. Of course, mental illness is increasing in a practically linear way in today's world, nor is there anything that can realistically be done about that in the here and now. Medicalization is here to stay: people will take more semaglutide rather than eat healthier, people will take more buprenorphine and methadone rather than not start on the road to opioid use disorder (physical dependency on opioids), and the like.
In politics, people get what they're contented with, what they tolerate. Unless they can bring about transformative sociopolitical change, one that will have to reverse much of the past few centuries of political development, we should expect, in deterministic fashion, that everyone being drugged up and mentally ill is simply the inevitable future.
The elderly are talking a lot of blood pressure meds / blood thinners, cholesterol meds, etc. Then throw in some stuff for arthritis, bone density, and other age-related conditions.
It's a different case than the younger people taking handfuls of psychiatric meds and then a half-dozen things trying to balance the adverse effects.
Comfortable genocide.
And almost all antidepressants have next to no positive effect over placebo, just statistically significant. (Concerta is an ADHD med though, not familiar with Rivotril, but it appears to be for psychotic symptoms and mania, I doubt it was to help her sleep, unless she kept staying awake after petting one of her cats to death Lenny-style again)
Wait til you find out how many are on hormonal birth control...