Call this a pet theory. I’ve been wondering how boomers inherited pure Americana, yet turned into this majority that despised their own children and country, rebelling against their namesake. We already know Fabian socialism was fighting a quiet war over government control since right before the world wars, that the churches were being indoctrinated by Zionism during the same time frame.
What isn’t quite as clear is how the boomers became quasi hedonist/ nihilists which only solidified over time. There’s multiple facets you could point to like the sexual “revolution”, drug use, hippy culture, etc. these however don’t explain NeoConservatism which was/is overwhelmingly supported by Boomers, or how community disappeared overnight during the boomers reign as adults.
I would argue something different, the fallout of communism/ socialism in America created a fallout from tribalism/ community as a second order effect. “Rugged individualism” became nihilistic individualism which neocons embraced in totality, “you are only responsible for yourself, heritage means nothing, blah blah bootstraps”. This was/is the defining creed of the boomer “right”. This is where the “propositional nation” and “creedal nation” nonsense comes from. This is also why the left and right were nearly indistinguishable on immigration where H1Bs and illegal amnesty were actual neocon babies. (Reagan said he would grant amnesty years before the bill and “dem betrayal”, George Sr favored a second wave of amnesty, etc).
So you might think on the flip side of neocon boomers, the neoliberals, that if they were opposing force that they would be the “communal” party. Which is partly true, this is why leftists of the time created the NIMBY laws and why even today the wealthy left lives in overwhelmingly majority white gated neighborhoods. What the neoliberals would not do, however is support Americana, that was their great evil, and the best way to destroy it was “diversity”/ multiculturalism. It is societal nihilism versus individual nihilism.
This also supports why both the boomer left and right despises Nazis in totality and was their unifier. The neocon right sees Nazis as racial socialists, which is in opposition their founding myth of nihilistic individualism. The neoliberal left sees Nazis as racial nationalists, which is in opposition to their founding myth of societal nihilism.
I think this is a solid point. I'd also add that Vietnam was a huge betrayal of the country and in particular boomer men. The betrayers, shockingly, were the Greatest Generation. Kennedy, a GG member despite his youth at the time, was swayed into Vietnam and murdered before he could pull us out. Subsequently we went into a war where 60,000 young men died for nothing and we ultimately lost to the communists.
For context about 7,000+ men died in Iraq and Afghanistan. Vietnam was 10x the amount, and there was a draft. The conflict was just as pointless, if not more so. Hills were taken at huge costs, then given up, just to be retaken again. The Vietnamese side we were fighting for was ruled by a brutal dictator that was making monks self-immolate in protest. The casus belli for the war was a complete lie. Elite kids were able to sit the war out. Etc.
Vietnam for many boomers, especially the kind that were inclined towards hippie stuff, was the point when they realized the system did not care about them. This greatly encouraged nihilistic thinking.
Speaking of Vietnam, guess who trained and armed Ho Chi Man during WWII? How much of America's problems during the last century was because of Interventionism, and continues to be.
Ukrainian nationalists who survive the war with Russia are going to become marauding terrorists pissed that the US and Europe used their country as a pawn.
We armed him after pissing him off at the Paris peace talks in '19/'20, meaning that he turned on us. Thanks, Wilson.
I often wonder just how much of Vietnam being a nightmarish failure was planned over a “happy accident”.
The OSS/CIA was running around Vietnam since immediately after WWII.
We fucking offered Vietnam, on a platter, to the Chinese. They turned it down. That pretty much set up the next 30 years of their story. You tell someone like Bell helicopter that they're going to sell billions over the next few years to the government in war contracts and they'll even help you set it all up.
The imperial playbook runs far deeper than most people realize.
Thich Quan Duc was South Vietnamese...
Oh it's quite simple.
Buckley was a plant. He was the Ben Shapiro of his time. Any kind of secular philosophy is of the left regardless of what it purports to be. Once the whites of the country were hoodwinked by the false idea that the right is comprised of ideological "principles" and not anything morally concrete, they surrendered the future.
Fuck off Christcuck.
Case in point. Exhibit A for why atheism should be illegal.
So thought crime is an acceptable legal framework just so long as it aligns with beliefs you already hold, huh? Get the fuck out of here with that stance. Find a better solution.
Why wouldn't it be? We're a bare fraction from state mandated atheism already. Secularism is a proven failure. It's time for that experiment to end and for it's adherents to be punished.
Because a policy of illegal thoughts is inherently immoral. To be clear, my objection is not with the promotion of restoring religion. My issue is with the idea that it's morally acceptable to outlaw thought itself. That is a policy wholly rooted in evil.
As I recall the whole notion of God granting us free will was so that we could choose to come to him of our own volition, not as mindless automatons or through forceful coercion. But you seem to be fine with using violence to force people into lying about what they believe because it creates the illusion of everyone embracing God. Utterly despicable.
You know what this sounds like to me?
"Antifa is just an idea you can't outlaw an idea!"
Atheism and leftism both are political movements and between the two of them they have effectively destroyed Western Civilization. Neither will get to hide behind the principles they derided and laughed at while doing so.
So lie about your faith or be punished as a criminal. You are evil.
Didn't you have enough of being schooled last time we spoke, welfare trash? Bow down to your childless superiors, because if it wasn't for us, you'd be starving in the streets.
You will treat us with respect or you will get nothing.
You want to know why I believed in MAGA? I thought they'd finally acknowledge who pays the bills in Western democracies and cut the endless parasitism of the reckless breeders who care more about their fetish for having more kids than about not being a burden on the state.
You will never get respect from real men because you don't deserve it.
Not now, not ever, not even after you're pushed into a shallow grave by a bulldozer.
You never did. You're a lying, self serving, deluded nihilist with no morals.
You are not part of we. You don't contribute to society and you have no place to criticize the people who do. You speak for no one but the chronically worthless.
Hey, give the chronically worthless some credit. It doesn't speak for them either.
You can keep making those empty threats, but who would you leech off if you got rid of us? 🤣
I did. I wanted them to really make the cuts, to show the world what happens if you finally say no to the fetishists having kids they can't afford and making the taxpayer foot the bill. In the end though, Milei did it, and look what happened. He managed to create a budget surplus and stabilize the most broken economy in the world!
I knew it wasn't going to happen under Elon Cuck, the biggest welfare parasite the world will ever see. Worth $300B despite nearly all his income being from the state.
What threat? You're an atheist, no matter what you're going to die a meaningless and undignified death. I'm just guessing as to the particulars.
You aren't part of us. You have no people and no country and you speak for nobody. Least of all men.
You always run away from the actual debate when you have no answers.
I'll reiterate, if America wants to cut the deficit, the buck stops at "family support".
You and our worse half are the biggest parasites. Everything else both groups say is deflection of that fact. A country run for the benefit of the taxpayer would support the single and childless, because we pay the bills.
Boomers didnt start it, they were simply groomed to propagate it. Remember, boomers were still mostly children when the 'civil rights' acts were passed, forcing whites to cohabitate with negroes, literally at gunpoint. The 'greatest generation' laid the groundwork for the destruction of western civilization.
That’s why I added in the Fabian and Zionism precursors. They were raised on founding mythology that solidified a nihilistic state on most boomers.
I'm not convinced it is nihilism: it's a sort of solipsistic optimism. I think the Boomers, in their heads, are still living in the post-war period of the 50s and 60s, when you could walk out of high school and into a lifetime job with no qualifications that would buy you a house and a car and put your kids through college. When the space race was at its peak, but the cold war hadn't become the cynical power-play that it later turned into, at least not in the public consciousness.
It's hard for us to imagine the unbelievable optimism of those two decades, before the Vietnam War and the recession of the 1970s brought everybody down to Earth. If you watch media from that period, whether it's movies, TV shows or even just news broadcasts, it's clear that everyone was being indoctrinated with the notion that they really were living the end of history: convinced that the Ultimate Evil, the final boss, had been defeated and that we would be living on Mars by the 21st century and things could only possibly get better. The pie-in-the-sky futurism was almost cult-like in its pervasiveness.
Even now that everything's gone to shit, the Boomers still haven't shaken that programming. When you hear them say things like, "well, war with Russia might be bad, but I'll be dead by then," what we hear is "fuck you I've got mine." What's actually going through their heads is "They'll be fine. How bad could it possibly be?"
That's the maxim that's guided their entire lives, informed every decision they've ever made, every vote they've ever cast: We've already won. We're already on top. We can ride out any hardship because the good times are never that far out of reach. We have enough to share with everyone. They've lived their entire lives in a world without consequences, and so they make decisions based on the belief that consequences don't exist.
This is an excellent analysis and I think forms the core of what makes otherwise rational, loving boomers say such apparently callous things to their own children. They believe that America and the West are inexhaustible and undefeatable, so no matter what comes, their descendants will be fine.
With regards to the optimism of the 50s and 60s, Fallout does an admirable job parodying this (except it's almost difficult to parody, because people really WERE that optimistic at that time).
Yeah this take is the closest to the truth of any here.
Boomers are not nihilists.
Things DO matter to them. All the wrong things. They lost their shit over 9/11. And again over COVID. I think they mostly think that the game is over, the victory song is playing, and the credits are rolling. So when something like 9/11 or COVID happens it shakes their illusion and they have these knee jerk reactions. They MUST get back to a state of comfort as soon as possible, costs be damned. Maybe that's what it is... Comfort. Comfort matters more to boomers than anything. More than freedom,.more than culture, history, tradition, legacy, their kids or grandkids. Comfort.
Boomers in their 70s would happily have permanently derailed their grandkids career or their great grandkids learning development by forcing businesses and schools to shut down, if it meant alleviates ng their concern over catching the coof. They'd gladly jab their newborn grandbaby and give them autism or "SIDS" if it meant they could enjoy their 20th ship cruise worry free.
"Sorry your kid has arrhythmia. I'll send you a post card from Aruba! #wearamask"
Its a combination of a huge number of things.
Race is at the core of a great deal of it, but so is Soviet posion operations, as well as just normal power hungry decadent empire shenanigans.
As an example to point to. Bush Sr, the democrat campagin against his elections was themed around him being a wimp. He originated the concept of "compassionate conservativism" the idea that libertarian "poors deserve it" and socialist "burn the oak doors" weren't the only options.
But think about this, Bush wasn't a wuss. He was a fucking Spook. None of that narrative actually makes any sense. Conservatism isn't the idea that if you're poor you suck, it's that the natural process of humans is a positive one, without need of engineering. So Bush wins the "conservative" position by advocating for better engineering. It doesn't work at all in reality, it's all self contradicting. Clinton runs on "the third way economy" which is the EXACT same platform.
So we have to go FURTHER back. It traceable ultimately to Licoln, but the FDR years were a major part of it too.
At its core, the idea that took hold was clean slate theory. It didn't matter where you came from or how you were born, you could be ANYTHING. Which again, isn't the ACTUAL promise of America, the promise of America is that nobody could TELL you what to be based on your heritage.
Everything else is in service to that idea, the philosophical tendrils are significant, enough for pages and pages of analysis. But the simple version is, it's a feel good idea that serves both main schools of human idea. Christian thought says "everyone is made in the image of God, thus we have a flattened humanity, all equal" whereas secular thought gets a twofer, they can tie humans into evolution as "another animal" while also still granting a special place "the only animal that's equal"
Blank slatism/ tabula rasa became wildly prevalent because it was a narrative pushed by Fabian socialists who were the architects of the slow march through the institutions. I don’t think Fabian’s could have dreamed of the nihilism that gripped the boomers on both sides, but they definitely fostered it when they saw how hopeless the generation had become in regards to societal issues.
Its why it's difficult to answer. You say tabula rasa, which leads to soviets, which leads to infiltration, then intelligence and the CIA. Then you're on race politics, crack and the unions. But you can't talk about unions and crack without talking about ghettos, and you can't talk about ghettos without talking about civic planning. Which you can't talk about without FDR coming up. You're all of a sudden talking about labor movements in the 40s and 50s and their setting the stage for integration of the 60s. On BOTH ENDS. The labor movement creates white anxiety at the same time as robber barons move to undercut the movement with racial equality. Leftist movement undermined by leftist movement opposed ny populist movement undermined by liberal movement etc. Etc.
What happened to the boomers makes perfect sense from a temporal and civilizational perspective.
Civilizations rise because they're based in truth, hard won truths which are built upon over time. As a civilization rises more and more, the people mostly men) rightfully and naturally pursue greater means and ability to protect and provide for their wives, children, neighbors, and people. Inventions are invented, progress is made (not how the far left/globalists use the term), social constructs are created and/or strengthened, and iterative improvement is made over time, to facilitate better lives for the people. This natural improvement naturally pervades all of life, which over time makes life easier for people.
Hard won truths are won precisely when and because life is hard. When we make our lives easier, those hard won truths are valued less. Through ease and comfort, we're less likely to value truth, less likely to embody it, believe it, speak it, support it, pass it on to our children, vote for it, and pursue it further. Ease and comfort are the death knells of success, whether it be individually, communally, or civilizationally. In terms of civilizations, this is when weak men begin to take power.
Ease and comfort enables falsehoods, lies (especially comfortable lies), weakness, degeneracy, corruption, and evil to take root and proliferate. The institutions of power are initially infiltrated and corrupted by weak men and subversives. The cancer grows and spreads over time.
The corruption and weakness started before the boomers, but the "progress" made under their tenure was definitely the most profound. Don't forget that the boomers were the most propagandized generation. They didn't have the internet to speak and exchange information freely, free from the control of the evil in power. The government, schools, news, and media were all entirely controlled and corrupt when they grew up, a complete monopoly on information control that was used against them, which is one of the reasons why they're so hard headed. The other, bigger reason is that civilization was still peaking under their tenure, and they were able to accrue mass wealth for themselves that their grandparents and grandchildren couldn't/can't dream of any longer. They got theirs, and most of them still live comfortably in their cushy jobs, with a 401k, a paid off house, and closing in on a comfortable retirement. Comfortable people don't question what they believe.
This is why falsehoods and lies began to proliferate under the boomer's tenure. Things like individualism, rampant drug use, the sexual revolution, feminism, no fault divorce, hedonism, egalitarianism, race blindness, sending everyone to college, pushing kids far away from the home, prioritizing money over all else (mammonism), zionism, judeo-Christianity, pacifism, Western interventionism, White racial guilt, idol worship of all things non-white (especially blacks), etc. were accepted because the boomers were living in luxury, no matter how many "woe is me" stories they try to tell. They were living in the peak of Western civilization, and didn't realize it. They were made comfortable, and are still mostly living in comfort, which is why they were so easily duped, and remain duped. The lies they were being fed still made sense, and their world wasn't, in their eyes, being upended by those subversive lies. Remember that the things they accepted didn't originate from them, it was pushed upon them. They easily accepted it, because of the circumstances they were living in, but the natural ebbs and flows of civilization were absolutely taken advantage of by the evil at the top, so they could accrue more power and control.
I think that nihilism began to take root during the boomer generation, but didn't become widespread until their children and grandchildren became of age (80s, 90s, and 00s), precisely because of the corruption the boomer's accepted and partook in, facilitating and emboldening the belief in nihilism. This came at the exact same time that Western civilization began to stagnate and begin to slide downward, under the weight of all the lies, inflaming the belief in nihilism.
the simple answer is this--they watch talmudvision... almost religiously
and if you seen the garbage that's broadcasted to them it would make tranny groomers look like a pet peeve in comparison
It really kicked off in 1963. JFK was assassinated by his own government. The CIA covered it up. Which required them to literally place CIA agents in Hollywood, News Corporations, Literary Circles, and yes, even Congress and the Oval Office.
There's nothing unique about the boomers. They just happened to be in college when all this happened. Oh yea, and the CIA was always in colleges, because it's a great place to build and perfect MKUltra. That's the precise age of person you want to target with "Manchurian" techniques.
Anyways. The politics of division of race, of class, of sex, of generation are all simply a distraction. It's the CIA. It's always been the CIA. We need to destroy the CIA.
At least you blamed something other than Jews.
kek.
Thanks for making me laugh.
Merry Christmas you grouchy son of a bitch. :)
There's a lot of micro reasons but I think the macro is simply that nihilism and hedonism are natural results of secularism. "YOLO", nothing matters, one life to live etc. If you're depressed and secular nothing matters, pleasure feels good and there's no downside id you're secular etc. They were the first real generation with secularism as the dominant ideology, even if lots of people still paid Christianity lip service. Compare how much pop culture changed too, 50s compared to 70s is massive in terms of norms