So it is now officially confirmed that the most influential right wing influencer was assassinated shortly after he decided he wasn't going to let himself be bullied anymore by the Zionist lobby. What a convenient coincidence.
Yeah, I was initially on the "maybe Israel, but prob'ly not" train. Now it's "almost certainly Israel, and it's going to take a lot of exonerating evidence to convince me otherwise."
*edit: also, there was never a point where it was "certainly impossible that it was Israel, you'd have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist to think that. Case is clearly 100% open and closed, it was a tranny lover." Anybody saying that has 0% of my trust on the subject, and has badly damaged their overall credibility IMO.
They'll commit genocide. They'll openly argue for the start of WW3 in the UN (of all fucking places). They'll arrest and torture anyone who says a single negative thing against them. They'll lie about their nuclear weapon stockpile. They've paid ZERO price for this.
Yet.. they wouldn't assassinate an up and coming American politician who is a friend of the current President? That's the sudden source of skepticism?
It's not a matter of morality, he just seemed like the sort of asset that would be more useful to them alive than dead especially since nothing much of significance seems to have even come from his death when it could have been used as an opportunity for many things.
Even the messages in question have a tone of confusion as to why the jewish donors were pulling out and that was the only reason he even considered dropping support for Israel and jews as part of his platform. which while a sign of him having outlived his usefulness doesn't really explain what the plan going forward would be when everything seems to be moving in the same direction it would have had the money kept flowing.
I don't even think he was a politician or made any claims of wanting to become one did he? I thought his whole think was to serve more as a political funnel to the chosen candidate, was he attempting to stray from that role he was assigned or is it just speculation?
Same. My initial thought was that it was a random radicalized retard who legitimately believed anyone to the right of Colbert was a nazi. But evidence keeps piling up.
The obvious patsy and coverup by the FBI is what made me think of Israel as the most likely suspect. Bibi being the first one to 'mourn' Charlies death (before his death was even officially confirmed if I recall correctly) and immediately trying to make Charlie a Zionist martyr despite Charlie publicly calling out Israel in the preceding months is what convinced me.
Like I said before, whether they did it or not they want to take credit for it but on the down low.
They want everybody saying 'don't cross Israel or you'll get palm-gun murdered in plain sight' but without any actual proof that could blow back on them.
It is way worse than that. Watch his initial interview days later with Greta something or other on Fox I think it was.a he never even says he/Israel didn't do it. He just says (paraphrasing) "that's a crazy allegation. It's always blood libel against Jews! Remember the Holocaust? Holocaust! HOLOCAUST!". If I hadn't known better I'd have thought it was a deep fake because he looked guilty as sin in his response. But no. He actually gave the least convincing answer imaginable on live, International TV. That interview pushed me from 50% convinced it was Israel to 99% convinced it was Israel.
Yeah, I was initially on the "maybe Israel, but prob'ly not" train. Now it's "almost certainly Israel, and it's going to take a lot of exonerating evidence to convince me otherwise."
Some people here thought I was crazy for saying that it was unlikely, but not impossible that Israel did it. Something like 2%. I got suspicious because it looked like such a professional action, the massive security failures, because it took so long to catch him, and Netanyahu saying that he was praying for CK before he died.
The fact that Netanyahu felt the need to deny it is crazy. Now, maybe he's just trying to say "see how crazy these people are", but it's still very weird.
there was never a point where it was "certainly impossible that it was Israel, you'd have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist to think that
These days, it's crazy to preclude almost anything. I wouldn't say that it's completely impossible that Russia, or Ukraine, or Venezuela did it. Or anyone really.
What you're calling "failures" are gaps that Charlie's team chose to allow because they didn't take the threat of a sniper very seriously. They literally didn't close off the walk way above him, because even that wasn't considered much of a threat.
it took so long to catch him
Literally 2 days. Literally "the first 48".
Meanwhile, we actually have recordings of a Mossad assassination, it looks absolutely nothing like this, and involves nearly 30 operatives working in 4 or 5 different teams that even clean swept the murder scene to avoid detection.
Why hasn't the FBI released the full rooftop video of the supposed sniper? Why only the part where he already was in full sprint? Why did they cut him climbing onto the roof, assembling the rifle, shooting Kirk, disassembling the rifle and beginning to run away? He was in full view of the security camera.
The campus is covered in security cameras. His every step from the parking lot to the rooftop would've been recorded but we haven't seen any of that footage. Despite all speculations. Despite all claims of an FBI coverup. No security footage except that little tiny cut portion. No TPSU footage. It should've been very easy to debunk all theories and stop the speculations entirely. And yet... nothing.
In the first day, it looked like a very professional hit. The headshot. The fact that the guy got away. The lack of security, or bypassing of security.
What you're calling "failures" are gaps that Charlie's team chose to allow because they didn't take the threat of a sniper very seriously.
That's a failure.
Literally 2 days. Literally "the first 48".
This was before he was caught. I had expected him to be caught immediately. And I still find it very strange that you can murder someone in front of thousands of people, and it will still take 2 days before you're caught.
Meanwhile, we actually have recordings of a Mossad assassination, it looks absolutely nothing like this, and involves nearly 30 operatives working in 4 or 5 different teams that even clean swept the murder scene to avoid detection.
They've done similar things in the UK and France, and you're right that none of them were murders of people in broad daylight in front of thousands of people.
Meet in the middle ground: The guy was a proxy sleeper by them. He thought he was doing it in the name of tranny sex, but was actually Just Following Orders (tm).
Now it's "almost certainly Israel, and it's going to take a lot of exonerating evidence to convince me otherwise."
You literally don't even have any direct evidence of Israeli involvement. There's no evidence that's going to convince you of Israel not being involved, because you weren't convinced into this with evidence.
Even these texts are not direct evidence of an Israeli assassination. It's not even indirect evidence of one.
Notice Gizortnik moved the goalposts. First it was "the texts were probably fake", and now that it turns out they're real he pretends his complaint was "well it doesn't PROVE that the guy who was afraid someone was going to kill him right before he was killed was killed by the group he said he was afraid was going to kill him".
You literally don't even have any direct evidence of Israeli involvement
No shit, Sherlock. All I have is an official story that's pretty clearly bullshit with a whole bunch of gaps that do not need to be gaps if they'd just tell the truth.
I've seen nothing to indicate lies from the police on this. And again, you're re-stating my point: you didn't arrive to your conclusion by evidence. You're not going to be dissuaded out of it by evidence either.
He probably wasn't even anywhere close to becoming actually anti-semitic. Only critical of Israel. But an incredibly influential voice like Charlies turning against Israel would've killed Israels stranglehold over the US in the long term. It is also very likely that it would have caused irreparable damage in the short term.
I think that's the reason why he was assassinated.
EDIT: Also his entire career was financed by the Jewish lobby. They really don't like their golems turning against them. So making an example of him could have also been a reason.
I still think antifa killed him, because they are murderers.
The "greatest ally" might simply have withdrawn the protection, and left the door open for a crazy person.
Just like how they are able to command the Pentagon itself. Or how they were seriously involved in 911 as dancing Israelis with cameras and a van depicting the scene. The FBI let them go, because they were not Muslim.
Antifa are coackroaches. They're incompetent and try to stay out of the limelight. Murdering someone at a public event that's being livestreamed isn't exactly their modus operandi.
And well Tyler is an obvious patsy. Charlie was shot from behind and the FBI is covering it up. They wouldn't do that for some Antifa guy.
Antifa started as a Jewish terrorist organization. Fighting alongside the Nazis in pre-war Germany.
They do murder people and have many political targets. They call any opposing person a "nazi" to justify a murder. There are many psychopaths among the crazies. Some capable and trained. Their tactics is to hide among the puppets. And creating confusion is a main part of their tactics too.
Check out Andy Ngo about how they work. Also other journalists like Tim Pool and WeAreChange have been target of their violence. The terrorist organization has many different people who do different roles. Some are screamers and some are killers.
Fighting against the nationalist opposition in Weimar Germany you mean.
They do murder people and have many political targets.
They try to. Usually they're too incompetent to succeed. But yes they're extremely violent and will usually attack perceived 'Nazis' in groups. Because they're cowards.
Some capable and trained.
Believe me. If they were as capable as they were in Weimar Germany a lot of people would actually be dead and not just end up in the hospital. Especially in the US because of the 2A. They certainly try to kill people but fortunately they usually fail at it because they're generally cowardly and incompetent idiots.
They are still dangerous and deserve to be classified as terrorists as they literally are terrorists but you don't have to blame them for something they didn't do and let the actual culprits get off the hook.
The political left didn't kill Charlie even though they wanted to and gleefully celebrated his murder. They dropped their masks fully and showed themselves to be the evil, violent and inhuman creatures that they are. Charlie not having been killed by Tyler doesn't change anything about that.
So it is now officially confirmed that the most influential right wing influencer was assassinated shortly after he decided he wasn't going to let himself be bullied anymore by the Zionist lobby. What a convenient coincidence.
Yeah, I was initially on the "maybe Israel, but prob'ly not" train. Now it's "almost certainly Israel, and it's going to take a lot of exonerating evidence to convince me otherwise."
*edit: also, there was never a point where it was "certainly impossible that it was Israel, you'd have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist to think that. Case is clearly 100% open and closed, it was a tranny lover." Anybody saying that has 0% of my trust on the subject, and has badly damaged their overall credibility IMO.
They'll commit genocide. They'll openly argue for the start of WW3 in the UN (of all fucking places). They'll arrest and torture anyone who says a single negative thing against them. They'll lie about their nuclear weapon stockpile. They've paid ZERO price for this.
Yet.. they wouldn't assassinate an up and coming American politician who is a friend of the current President? That's the sudden source of skepticism?
It's not a matter of morality, he just seemed like the sort of asset that would be more useful to them alive than dead especially since nothing much of significance seems to have even come from his death when it could have been used as an opportunity for many things.
Even the messages in question have a tone of confusion as to why the jewish donors were pulling out and that was the only reason he even considered dropping support for Israel and jews as part of his platform. which while a sign of him having outlived his usefulness doesn't really explain what the plan going forward would be when everything seems to be moving in the same direction it would have had the money kept flowing.
I don't even think he was a politician or made any claims of wanting to become one did he? I thought his whole think was to serve more as a political funnel to the chosen candidate, was he attempting to stray from that role he was assigned or is it just speculation?
That was my first inkling of, "maybe Israel, actually." The lady definitely protested too much.
Same. My initial thought was that it was a random radicalized retard who legitimately believed anyone to the right of Colbert was a nazi. But evidence keeps piling up.
The obvious patsy and coverup by the FBI is what made me think of Israel as the most likely suspect. Bibi being the first one to 'mourn' Charlies death (before his death was even officially confirmed if I recall correctly) and immediately trying to make Charlie a Zionist martyr despite Charlie publicly calling out Israel in the preceding months is what convinced me.
Like I said before, whether they did it or not they want to take credit for it but on the down low.
They want everybody saying 'don't cross Israel or you'll get palm-gun murdered in plain sight' but without any actual proof that could blow back on them.
It is way worse than that. Watch his initial interview days later with Greta something or other on Fox I think it was.a he never even says he/Israel didn't do it. He just says (paraphrasing) "that's a crazy allegation. It's always blood libel against Jews! Remember the Holocaust? Holocaust! HOLOCAUST!". If I hadn't known better I'd have thought it was a deep fake because he looked guilty as sin in his response. But no. He actually gave the least convincing answer imaginable on live, International TV. That interview pushed me from 50% convinced it was Israel to 99% convinced it was Israel.
Some people here thought I was crazy for saying that it was unlikely, but not impossible that Israel did it. Something like 2%. I got suspicious because it looked like such a professional action, the massive security failures, because it took so long to catch him, and Netanyahu saying that he was praying for CK before he died.
The fact that Netanyahu felt the need to deny it is crazy. Now, maybe he's just trying to say "see how crazy these people are", but it's still very weird.
These days, it's crazy to preclude almost anything. I wouldn't say that it's completely impossible that Russia, or Ukraine, or Venezuela did it. Or anyone really.
Nothing about this attack was professional.
What you're calling "failures" are gaps that Charlie's team chose to allow because they didn't take the threat of a sniper very seriously. They literally didn't close off the walk way above him, because even that wasn't considered much of a threat.
Literally 2 days. Literally "the first 48".
Meanwhile, we actually have recordings of a Mossad assassination, it looks absolutely nothing like this, and involves nearly 30 operatives working in 4 or 5 different teams that even clean swept the murder scene to avoid detection.
Why hasn't the FBI released the full rooftop video of the supposed sniper? Why only the part where he already was in full sprint? Why did they cut him climbing onto the roof, assembling the rifle, shooting Kirk, disassembling the rifle and beginning to run away? He was in full view of the security camera.
The campus is covered in security cameras. His every step from the parking lot to the rooftop would've been recorded but we haven't seen any of that footage. Despite all speculations. Despite all claims of an FBI coverup. No security footage except that little tiny cut portion. No TPSU footage. It should've been very easy to debunk all theories and stop the speculations entirely. And yet... nothing.
Why, Giz?
In the first day, it looked like a very professional hit. The headshot. The fact that the guy got away. The lack of security, or bypassing of security.
That's a failure.
This was before he was caught. I had expected him to be caught immediately. And I still find it very strange that you can murder someone in front of thousands of people, and it will still take 2 days before you're caught.
They've done similar things in the UK and France, and you're right that none of them were murders of people in broad daylight in front of thousands of people.
Meet in the middle ground: The guy was a proxy sleeper by them. He thought he was doing it in the name of tranny sex, but was actually Just Following Orders (tm).
You literally don't even have any direct evidence of Israeli involvement. There's no evidence that's going to convince you of Israel not being involved, because you weren't convinced into this with evidence.
Even these texts are not direct evidence of an Israeli assassination. It's not even indirect evidence of one.
We already don’t believe you, Bibi. You don’t have to keep convincing us.
Notice Gizortnik moved the goalposts. First it was "the texts were probably fake", and now that it turns out they're real he pretends his complaint was "well it doesn't PROVE that the guy who was afraid someone was going to kill him right before he was killed was killed by the group he said he was afraid was going to kill him".
Why would the PM of Israel talk to you?
No shit, Sherlock. All I have is an official story that's pretty clearly bullshit with a whole bunch of gaps that do not need to be gaps if they'd just tell the truth.
So why would they lie?
God you're so tiresome.
"whole bunch of gaps", yeah... like the shooter.
I've seen nothing to indicate lies from the police on this. And again, you're re-stating my point: you didn't arrive to your conclusion by evidence. You're not going to be dissuaded out of it by evidence either.
Damn. I thought the whole story seemed far fetched, that charlie kirk wasn't close to noticing, and that the texts were Candace grift.
Jews really are the worst problem we have.
He probably wasn't even anywhere close to becoming actually anti-semitic. Only critical of Israel. But an incredibly influential voice like Charlies turning against Israel would've killed Israels stranglehold over the US in the long term. It is also very likely that it would have caused irreparable damage in the short term.
I think that's the reason why he was assassinated.
EDIT: Also his entire career was financed by the Jewish lobby. They really don't like their golems turning against them. So making an example of him could have also been a reason.
Ya he was very influential in young Conservative spheres, too dangerous to go out his lane for them.
I still think antifa killed him, because they are murderers.
The "greatest ally" might simply have withdrawn the protection, and left the door open for a crazy person.
Just like how they are able to command the Pentagon itself. Or how they were seriously involved in 911 as dancing Israelis with cameras and a van depicting the scene. The FBI let them go, because they were not Muslim.
Antifa are coackroaches. They're incompetent and try to stay out of the limelight. Murdering someone at a public event that's being livestreamed isn't exactly their modus operandi.
And well Tyler is an obvious patsy. Charlie was shot from behind and the FBI is covering it up. They wouldn't do that for some Antifa guy.
Antifa started as a Jewish terrorist organization. Fighting alongside the Nazis in pre-war Germany.
They do murder people and have many political targets. They call any opposing person a "nazi" to justify a murder. There are many psychopaths among the crazies. Some capable and trained. Their tactics is to hide among the puppets. And creating confusion is a main part of their tactics too.
Check out Andy Ngo about how they work. Also other journalists like Tim Pool and WeAreChange have been target of their violence. The terrorist organization has many different people who do different roles. Some are screamers and some are killers.
Fighting against the nationalist opposition in Weimar Germany you mean.
They try to. Usually they're too incompetent to succeed. But yes they're extremely violent and will usually attack perceived 'Nazis' in groups. Because they're cowards.
Believe me. If they were as capable as they were in Weimar Germany a lot of people would actually be dead and not just end up in the hospital. Especially in the US because of the 2A. They certainly try to kill people but fortunately they usually fail at it because they're generally cowardly and incompetent idiots.
They are still dangerous and deserve to be classified as terrorists as they literally are terrorists but you don't have to blame them for something they didn't do and let the actual culprits get off the hook.
The political left didn't kill Charlie even though they wanted to and gleefully celebrated his murder. They dropped their masks fully and showed themselves to be the evil, violent and inhuman creatures that they are. Charlie not having been killed by Tyler doesn't change anything about that.