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Turning Point USA confirms the Charlie Kirk texts leaked by Candace (twitter.com)
posted 247 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 247 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +120 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 247 days ago +11 / -0

Yeah, I was initially on the "maybe Israel, but prob'ly not" train. Now it's "almost certainly Israel, and it's going to take a lot of exonerating evidence to convince me otherwise."

Some people here thought I was crazy for saying that it was unlikely, but not impossible that Israel did it. Something like 2%. I got suspicious because it looked like such a professional action, the massive security failures, because it took so long to catch him, and Netanyahu saying that he was praying for CK before he died.

The fact that Netanyahu felt the need to deny it is crazy. Now, maybe he's just trying to say "see how crazy these people are", but it's still very weird.

there was never a point where it was "certainly impossible that it was Israel, you'd have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist to think that

These days, it's crazy to preclude almost anything. I wouldn't say that it's completely impossible that Russia, or Ukraine, or Venezuela did it. Or anyone really.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 247 days ago +2 / -0

it looked like such a professional action

Nothing about this attack was professional.

the massive security failures

What you're calling "failures" are gaps that Charlie's team chose to allow because they didn't take the threat of a sniper very seriously. They literally didn't close off the walk way above him, because even that wasn't considered much of a threat.

it took so long to catch him

Literally 2 days. Literally "the first 48".

Meanwhile, we actually have recordings of a Mossad assassination, it looks absolutely nothing like this, and involves nearly 30 operatives working in 4 or 5 different teams that even clean swept the murder scene to avoid detection.

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– horstshort 17 points 247 days ago +17 / -0

Why hasn't the FBI released the full rooftop video of the supposed sniper? Why only the part where he already was in full sprint? Why did they cut him climbing onto the roof, assembling the rifle, shooting Kirk, disassembling the rifle and beginning to run away? He was in full view of the security camera.

The campus is covered in security cameras. His every step from the parking lot to the rooftop would've been recorded but we haven't seen any of that footage. Despite all speculations. Despite all claims of an FBI coverup. No security footage except that little tiny cut portion. No TPSU footage. It should've been very easy to debunk all theories and stop the speculations entirely. And yet... nothing.

Why, Giz?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 247 days ago +2 / -0

Why hasn't the FBI released the full rooftop video of the supposed sniper?

The court case hasn't even finished. You haven't even seen the full video of Austin Metcalf's stabbing, and the FBI isn't even involved. Not everything is YouTube content.

Why only the part where he already was in full sprint?

There's several videos of him on the roof, several are also not on the roof. The one I saw of him running was because he comes from off screen.

Why did they cut him climbing onto the roof, assembling the rifle, shooting Kirk, disassembling the rifle and beginning to run away?

Literally no one has said that he disassembled the rifle. I have no idea where that crap came from, it wasn't even the police or the FBI. Some people are saying the assembled the rifle and changed his clothes 4 or 5 times, and there's literally no official claims of either of those things. There's an argument that he assembled it.

No TPSU footage

Literally already in the hand of the police and not being released because it's literally evidence. Why are you supposed to get it again?

It should've been very easy to debunk all theories and stop the speculations entirely. And yet... nothing.

No, because it would require someone to actually accept evidence when they have it.

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– horstshort 11 points 247 days ago +11 / -0

You haven't even seen the full video of Austin Metcalf's stabbing

Because they tried to cover it up. Irynas murder has shown quite clearly why.

The one I saw of him running was because he comes from off screen.

Because it was cropped.

https://x.com/Niall_Diarmuid/status/1968955433097306176

Literally no one has said that he disassembled the rifle.

Now you're outright lying.

Why are you supposed to get it again?

Transparency in an extremely politically charged case.

No, because it would require someone to actually accept evidence when they have it.

Can't accept evidence that doesn't exist.

Like always you're dodging the question and trying to derail the conversation.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

Nothing about this attack was professional.

In the first day, it looked like a very professional hit. The headshot. The fact that the guy got away. The lack of security, or bypassing of security.

What you're calling "failures" are gaps that Charlie's team chose to allow because they didn't take the threat of a sniper very seriously.

That's a failure.

Literally 2 days. Literally "the first 48".

This was before he was caught. I had expected him to be caught immediately. And I still find it very strange that you can murder someone in front of thousands of people, and it will still take 2 days before you're caught.

Meanwhile, we actually have recordings of a Mossad assassination, it looks absolutely nothing like this, and involves nearly 30 operatives working in 4 or 5 different teams that even clean swept the murder scene to avoid detection.

They've done similar things in the UK and France, and you're right that none of them were murders of people in broad daylight in front of thousands of people.

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