One side will always realise they can cement power by expanding the franchise.
It starts with only landed men. But then the left side realise they can get more support for their positions by lowering the standards, less land needed. So when they're in power, they do so. Then all men. Then women. Then reduce the voting age to 18. Now 16.
Women voting is inevitable when you have voting. Voting is the issue.
The problem is not voting but extending the vote to people that do not contribute to society.
It should be a net tax payer system, where only those that are not parasite choose how to spend their money.
Women are welfare sponges, even if they work because the government pay companies to reach a diversity quota.
Then you need to zoom out a bit because what you reffer to A is actually B and what you think is B is actually C. What is the actual A? Human malice. There is no system in existance that can address for human malice.
I heard Andrew Wilson talking about raising the voting age to 35. The rational is that you can't run for president until 35 because a younger person couldn't handle the responsibilities of the office. And since your vote is selecting that person, you wouldn't make a good decision about who holds office until the same age.
Raising the floor would also require lowering the ceiling lest boomer types groups continue to exert disproportionate influence over the rest and at their expense.
The problem there is that many problems affect the youth first, look at the dating and labor markets, those who already got theirs are incapable of seeing any problem and just assume that it's us that are at fault for their being no jobs looking to hire white men and women having insanely high standards.
Liberal values of individuality based civic societies is only compatible with Anglo-Protestant-Folkway moral frameworks that promote individualism directed towards a sacral care of family and neighborhood while disincentivizing abstract collectivism and grievance mongering. Civic Social institutions are created by likeminded individuals coming together for the general benefit of their local community, and may be dissolved quickly if institutional corruption occurs. Liberal societies are the outgrowth of long-term time preferences for individuals, promoting high-IQ. Liberalism promotes demographic and ethnographic Anglicanization.
Islam mandates the blind submission to authority, and a permanent abstract collectivism to the Islamic Ummah, which supersedes even the survival of your own children, at the behest of ultra-massive, highly centralized, impossible-to-penetrate institutions that must kill you at the first sign of dissent. The word "Assassin" is derived from Islamic reactionaries who realized the sole source of change within Islamic institutions was through terrorism and murder, because it was not possible for peaceful change in any Islamic system in history.
As such, Islam has rarely even been compatible with Islam, as it exists solely at the behest of the most violent and murderous autocrats of the time controlling all Islamic society with an iron fist. Shifting from one violent autocracy to another, the moment one Caliphate is weak, another faction will attempt to dominate that weakened Caliphate through murder and genocide. When there is no totalizing Islamic Caliphate to control Islamic populations, a permanent state of war and terrorism is the only possible outcome. To be at peace, Islam must enslave Muslims; otherwise they will be in a permanent state of war.
Within Islamic societies, individual responsibility is permanently abandoned to the unknowable and unquestionable will of God. "God wills it" is the answer for all things, and no action is taken to change any behavior. Civil Society organizations can only be maintained through violence, fear, coercion, or when successful: blind and unthinking obedience. Violence is normal, promoting short-term time preference thinking and low IQ. Worse, Islam additionally promotes incest, meaning that many populations will be low-IQ, high in violence, high in short-time preference, no matter what ethnic group they conquer. Islam promotes demographic and ethnographic Arabization.
Since a Liberal society can not tolerate slavery, and insists on peace; and Islamic society can only be at peace in slavery; then Islam must be expelled from every corner of the west.
Not all cultures are the same. Not all religions are the same.
Nature implies same; each being within implies difference. Beings joining each others artificial cultures and religions are ignoring nature by pretending to be alike.
truth
a) Truth vs false reasoning implies two different sides consenting to the same conflict...
b) A being holding onto truth or false ignores that nature moves.
The real problem is allowing women to speak and vote.
The real problem is voting.
One side will always realise they can cement power by expanding the franchise.
It starts with only landed men. But then the left side realise they can get more support for their positions by lowering the standards, less land needed. So when they're in power, they do so. Then all men. Then women. Then reduce the voting age to 18. Now 16.
Women voting is inevitable when you have voting. Voting is the issue.
The real problem is thinking voting is anything but a scam.
The problem is not voting but extending the vote to people that do not contribute to society.
It should be a net tax payer system, where only those that are not parasite choose how to spend their money.
Women are welfare sponges, even if they work because the government pay companies to reach a diversity quota.
If A inevitably leads to B, A is the issue*
Then you need to zoom out a bit because what you reffer to A is actually B and what you think is B is actually C. What is the actual A? Human malice. There is no system in existance that can address for human malice.
I heard Andrew Wilson talking about raising the voting age to 35. The rational is that you can't run for president until 35 because a younger person couldn't handle the responsibilities of the office. And since your vote is selecting that person, you wouldn't make a good decision about who holds office until the same age.
It doesn't matter how high you raise the voting age if the system itself is fundamentally corrupt.
Raising the floor would also require lowering the ceiling lest boomer types groups continue to exert disproportionate influence over the rest and at their expense.
Great point
The problem there is that many problems affect the youth first, look at the dating and labor markets, those who already got theirs are incapable of seeing any problem and just assume that it's us that are at fault for their being no jobs looking to hire white men and women having insanely high standards.
I think you are making a good point but adding the dating stuff makes you sound like a whiner
The dating side of things is absolutely valid and I'm sick of everyone pretending that it isn't.
This.
England is for the English.
Islam is not compatible with Liberalism. Frankly its not compatible with anything.
Tell us how you really feel.
Liberal values of individuality based civic societies is only compatible with Anglo-Protestant-Folkway moral frameworks that promote individualism directed towards a sacral care of family and neighborhood while disincentivizing abstract collectivism and grievance mongering. Civic Social institutions are created by likeminded individuals coming together for the general benefit of their local community, and may be dissolved quickly if institutional corruption occurs. Liberal societies are the outgrowth of long-term time preferences for individuals, promoting high-IQ. Liberalism promotes demographic and ethnographic Anglicanization.
Islam mandates the blind submission to authority, and a permanent abstract collectivism to the Islamic Ummah, which supersedes even the survival of your own children, at the behest of ultra-massive, highly centralized, impossible-to-penetrate institutions that must kill you at the first sign of dissent. The word "Assassin" is derived from Islamic reactionaries who realized the sole source of change within Islamic institutions was through terrorism and murder, because it was not possible for peaceful change in any Islamic system in history.
As such, Islam has rarely even been compatible with Islam, as it exists solely at the behest of the most violent and murderous autocrats of the time controlling all Islamic society with an iron fist. Shifting from one violent autocracy to another, the moment one Caliphate is weak, another faction will attempt to dominate that weakened Caliphate through murder and genocide. When there is no totalizing Islamic Caliphate to control Islamic populations, a permanent state of war and terrorism is the only possible outcome. To be at peace, Islam must enslave Muslims; otherwise they will be in a permanent state of war.
Within Islamic societies, individual responsibility is permanently abandoned to the unknowable and unquestionable will of God. "God wills it" is the answer for all things, and no action is taken to change any behavior. Civil Society organizations can only be maintained through violence, fear, coercion, or when successful: blind and unthinking obedience. Violence is normal, promoting short-term time preference thinking and low IQ. Worse, Islam additionally promotes incest, meaning that many populations will be low-IQ, high in violence, high in short-time preference, no matter what ethnic group they conquer. Islam promotes demographic and ethnographic Arabization.
Since a Liberal society can not tolerate slavery, and insists on peace; and Islamic society can only be at peace in slavery; then Islam must be expelled from every corner of the west.
Nature implies same; each being within implies difference. Beings joining each others artificial cultures and religions are ignoring nature by pretending to be alike.
a) Truth vs false reasoning implies two different sides consenting to the same conflict...
b) A being holding onto truth or false ignores that nature moves.
There's a reason the only board that tolerates you is c/Conspiracies.
a) The only board that ever banned me was mgtow for the comment..."men cannot go their own way without free will of choice".
b) Tolerance (to allow without interference) implies nature allowing being to interfere with one another by free will of choice.
...if one chooses one side over another; like upvote or downvote.
Replace muslim with jew.
It's the same conversation.
I wonder why they refuse to have that one.
there is no devout muslim that doesn't support the actions of his brethren, he just won't admit it to YOU.