Agreed, slippery slope. If everyone that's crazy is somehow less guilty in my opinion just about everyone that kills someone is crazy. Lock his ass up for life
If someone knows they did wrong, or at least has the mental faculties to know they did wrong, there exists a chance, however small, that they can become productive members of society.
If they literally can't tell, if to them killin' babies is the same as going to the corner store, then the odds of them committing the same crime again is basically 100%. The moment the opportunity comes up, they will.
I never understood why pleading permanent insanity wasn't a one-way-ticket to Canadian Healthcare.
If you're capable of murdering someone in cold blood for no other reason than you felt like it you can never become a productive member of society. You're like a pitbull. It's just a matter of time before your instincts take over again and you kill another person.
In this case there is no reason for him not to have been executed immediately.
If you're capable of murdering someone in cold blood for no other reason than you felt like it you can never become a productive member of society
Depends on the reason you felt like it. In this case I say a slow painful death is warranted but a man killing a disloyal wife, a habitual criminal, or foreign invader is justified
Killing a criminal has a reason, assuming there was killing due to the criminality in question. That isn't "you felt like it", that is a prompted response. Otherwise, the reason we eat, drink, shit, and sleep, is because "we felt like it". Yes, we did, but there is a clear prompt, and to reduce it to that makes discourse impossible with an infinite layers of "techknickally".
Who gives a shit? The idea of prison as primarily a conduit for rehabilitation is both extremely recent and completely retarded. Prison is almost entirely meant to inflict retribution on behalf of victims.
there exists a chance, however small, that they can become productive members of society.
By killing a different productive member of society, they now have the debt of 2+ people to produce for instead of just themselves. The chance of a violent criminal or someone with a successful insanity defense ever reaching that productive is so small that its basically zero and shouldn't be considered in any thought.
Even if you worked them like a slave for the rest of their life, they cannot make up for the damage they've caused and should be treated as such.
Right? We ruled he was mentally insane, so naturally because he's literally mentally insane were going to let him out 13 years earlier because people absolutely go from mentally insane to perfect stable in a prison cell.
Guilty by reason of insanity should be an instant death penalty for violent crimes.
Or at least life in prison. If you're not mentally capable of guilt then you're by definition not capable of reform.
Agreed. I don’t know why people think someone being crazy is a defense for the death sentence but an argument for letting them out.
If someone’s plea is that they are so crazy that they killed someone, then they can die too.
Agreed, slippery slope. If everyone that's crazy is somehow less guilty in my opinion just about everyone that kills someone is crazy. Lock his ass up for life
Bring back insane asylums and "work camps" for these people.
No orchestras or brothels this time.
Continuing to feed them at that point is irresponsible use of taxpayer money. Rope is cheap.
Best case scenario: lobotomy, heavy chains and a life performing hard labor.
If someone knows they did wrong, or at least has the mental faculties to know they did wrong, there exists a chance, however small, that they can become productive members of society.
If they literally can't tell, if to them killin' babies is the same as going to the corner store, then the odds of them committing the same crime again is basically 100%. The moment the opportunity comes up, they will.
I never understood why pleading permanent insanity wasn't a one-way-ticket to Canadian Healthcare.
If you're capable of murdering someone in cold blood for no other reason than you felt like it you can never become a productive member of society. You're like a pitbull. It's just a matter of time before your instincts take over again and you kill another person.
In this case there is no reason for him not to have been executed immediately.
Depends on the reason you felt like it. In this case I say a slow painful death is warranted but a man killing a disloyal wife, a habitual criminal, or foreign invader is justified
"for no other reason than you felt like it".
Killing a criminal has a reason, assuming there was killing due to the criminality in question. That isn't "you felt like it", that is a prompted response. Otherwise, the reason we eat, drink, shit, and sleep, is because "we felt like it". Yes, we did, but there is a clear prompt, and to reduce it to that makes discourse impossible with an infinite layers of "techknickally".
Who gives a shit? The idea of prison as primarily a conduit for rehabilitation is both extremely recent and completely retarded. Prison is almost entirely meant to inflict retribution on behalf of victims.
Ya I'd rather have one less worker than everyone looking over their shoulders because there is a murderer amongst them.
By killing a different productive member of society, they now have the debt of 2+ people to produce for instead of just themselves. The chance of a violent criminal or someone with a successful insanity defense ever reaching that productive is so small that its basically zero and shouldn't be considered in any thought.
Even if you worked them like a slave for the rest of their life, they cannot make up for the damage they've caused and should be treated as such.
Right? We ruled he was mentally insane, so naturally because he's literally mentally insane were going to let him out 13 years earlier because people absolutely go from mentally insane to perfect stable in a prison cell.
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