And since they have a digital ID system they can just turn off everyone who signed the petition.
That would be the most retarded thing they could do as creates a mentality of having nothing to lose, everyone will comply because they have no choice in the matter.
That would be the most retarded thing they could do as creates a mentality of having nothing to lose, everyone will comply because they have no choice in the matter.
What are they going to do? call someone on their bricked phone? send a letter to the editor with the money for a stamp they don't have?
Agreed. My point was that it's a lot of signatures and that people here should sign and share. Probably fewer than 50 petitions on parliament's site have had that many signatures after running for 6 months.
I think the petitions only require them to debate the issue and respond to it. However, governments should fear the people, and petitions are one way of showing how many people they should be afraid of.
What's the point of a petition when it's proven they do not care what you think? Forget petitions, they'll ignore an actual election or vote if they care to.
They've caved to pressure on things before, as with the Greater Manchester's version of ULEZ which was put "under review" and I believe has now been cancelled entirely because everybody was against it. Obviously they will try again in future regardless.
I suspect the amount of pushback they're getting on digital ID, including people refusing to adopt it, may cause them to make it just one of the several existing options for companies to check you're allowed to work in the UK. But obviously they're going to make it the more convenient option so many companies will only support digital ID. Once most companies (including those in bed with the government) are doing that and lots of people already have the ID, it will be much easier to make it mandatory.
The more they ignore petitions, especially immensely popular ones, the more illegitimate they become in the eyes of the public. It directly undermines government authority, and further strengthens resistance to the government as it gives that resistance more legitimacy.
I forget the number, is it you need 6-8% of a nations population to perform a successful coup?
I'm just saying, this feels dangerously close to that number..
It's the only option left
Less. But you need a lot of other things that aren't in place.
And since they have a digital ID system they can just turn off everyone who signed the petition.
And since they have a digital ID system they can just turn off everyone who signed the petition.
That would be the most retarded thing they could do as creates a mentality of having nothing to lose, everyone will comply because they have no choice in the matter.
What are they going to do? call someone on their bricked phone? send a letter to the editor with the money for a stamp they don't have?
For the record, this is 4.0% of the UK's population that have signed already.
Agreed. My point was that it's a lot of signatures and that people here should sign and share. Probably fewer than 50 petitions on parliament's site have had that many signatures after running for 6 months.
Another that needs more is Repeal the Online Safety Act . https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903
The stop killing games one succeeded and will be discussed at the start of november.
Can’t the government just ignore the petition? It’s not like petitions have ever really done anything anyways
I think the petitions only require them to debate the issue and respond to it. However, governments should fear the people, and petitions are one way of showing how many people they should be afraid of.
Can they? Yes.
Will they? Possibly.
Will that fuck over Labour and mean they never get voted back in? That's already going to happen so they have nothing to lose at this point.
Asmongold has always been an astroturfed subversive.
he's right, it IS inevitable, but we don't have to accept it in OUR lifetime.
What's the point of a petition when it's proven they do not care what you think? Forget petitions, they'll ignore an actual election or vote if they care to.
They've caved to pressure on things before, as with the Greater Manchester's version of ULEZ which was put "under review" and I believe has now been cancelled entirely because everybody was against it. Obviously they will try again in future regardless.
I suspect the amount of pushback they're getting on digital ID, including people refusing to adopt it, may cause them to make it just one of the several existing options for companies to check you're allowed to work in the UK. But obviously they're going to make it the more convenient option so many companies will only support digital ID. Once most companies (including those in bed with the government) are doing that and lots of people already have the ID, it will be much easier to make it mandatory.
Caved, or delayed until you've stopped paying attention.
The more they ignore petitions, especially immensely popular ones, the more illegitimate they become in the eyes of the public. It directly undermines government authority, and further strengthens resistance to the government as it gives that resistance more legitimacy.
It's for the government to track the opposition.
Defund the government.
Do every tax dodge you can get away with, and barter for goods. Evil requires funding.
Shame that their overlords will just leer at them and implement it anyways.
Vote better next time. And when you discover voting them out no longer works... "Up the rebels!"
It's never going to get better because the britbongs are fully neutered.