You are not dealing with rational people. You're dealing with a bunch of Boomers and their overeducated Millennial children who will never have a thought unless the news tells them to have it. You can't get through to them with any logical argument. Either you ignore them or you laugh at them, but you can't persuade a closed loop that will not accept any new input.
For Snopes it's pretty easy, the Biden wristwatch checking bit really exposed their bias. They couldn't admit they were wrong despite video evidence showing Biden continually checking his watch.
There's also a few watchdog organizations that monitor and report the biases of media.
And if the fact checker is notoriously bias a little Ad Hominem never hurts.
Once they labeled an accusation against Obama as "False" or "Mostly False" but then proceeded to "explain" that it was totally true, but the mean intentions behind those saying it made it false. Or some such drivel.
Other times they label things to favour the left based on the most inconsequential trivialities, on the level of what the definition of "is" is...
This isn't a AKSHULLY Snopes fact checker - it's slightly center left, and it bitches all the time about right wing outlets being "mostly factual" (read: they're correct, but usually a couple months after) but I basically take the rating they give a site and move it one denomination over. So if MBC calls NYt left-center, I call it left wing/far left. Works better that way.
There's normally a plague of things these Fact Checkers get wrong.
If you've got one they go to, show them how criminally incorrect they are, then do a live fact-check of the fact-checker. Normally that means going to the fact checker first and seeing what shit they made up, debunking it, and then presenting it in the moment to the person your arguing with.
Yeah, the good thing about Leftists being NPC's is that you basically know all their arguments ahead of time, so if you just save or bookmark something on your phone, you can just bring it up later.
"Donald Trump said White Supremacists were good people."
Vivaldi Browser > Bookmarks > SJW Debunk > Trump > Good People
"Here's the video"
You may even need to download the videos you do have, and then upload them to your own private video library on BitChute or Rumble or something for topics that may pass quickly, or be erased quickly.
if they rely on fact checkers, then don't waste your time. their opinions are prescribed and curated for them, you will never change it.
the only worthwhile argument with this kind of person is to convince them that the media as a whole is bullshit. this is the first and most important red pill. once they accept this, they will regain their ability to form opinions.
Call them faggots.
You are not dealing with rational people. You're dealing with a bunch of Boomers and their overeducated Millennial children who will never have a thought unless the news tells them to have it. You can't get through to them with any logical argument. Either you ignore them or you laugh at them, but you can't persuade a closed loop that will not accept any new input.
For Snopes it's pretty easy, the Biden wristwatch checking bit really exposed their bias. They couldn't admit they were wrong despite video evidence showing Biden continually checking his watch.
There's also a few watchdog organizations that monitor and report the biases of media.
And if the fact checker is notoriously bias a little Ad Hominem never hurts.
Once they labeled an accusation against Obama as "False" or "Mostly False" but then proceeded to "explain" that it was totally true, but the mean intentions behind those saying it made it false. Or some such drivel.
Other times they label things to favour the left based on the most inconsequential trivialities, on the level of what the definition of "is" is...
I use Ground.news - they're really good at showing where your political blind spot is.
Whenever I see a new news rag, I google (news rag) "mediabiasfactcheck" - it pulls up this site: https://www.mediabiasfactcheck.com
This isn't a AKSHULLY Snopes fact checker - it's slightly center left, and it bitches all the time about right wing outlets being "mostly factual" (read: they're correct, but usually a couple months after) but I basically take the rating they give a site and move it one denomination over. So if MBC calls NYt left-center, I call it left wing/far left. Works better that way.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/
These fuckers are butthurt lmao
Calling it a state-funded propaganda network - yeah, and what were the left wing outlets during Biden's reign you fucking faggots?
There's normally a plague of things these Fact Checkers get wrong.
If you've got one they go to, show them how criminally incorrect they are, then do a live fact-check of the fact-checker. Normally that means going to the fact checker first and seeing what shit they made up, debunking it, and then presenting it in the moment to the person your arguing with.
I had to do that with someone who said that Fauci said masks work. I had to find the video of Fauci saying they don't work like 3 months earlier.
Yeah, the good thing about Leftists being NPC's is that you basically know all their arguments ahead of time, so if you just save or bookmark something on your phone, you can just bring it up later.
"Donald Trump said White Supremacists were good people."
Vivaldi Browser > Bookmarks > SJW Debunk > Trump > Good People
"Here's the video"
You may even need to download the videos you do have, and then upload them to your own private video library on BitChute or Rumble or something for topics that may pass quickly, or be erased quickly.
if they rely on fact checkers, then don't waste your time. their opinions are prescribed and curated for them, you will never change it.
the only worthwhile argument with this kind of person is to convince them that the media as a whole is bullshit. this is the first and most important red pill. once they accept this, they will regain their ability to form opinions.
They didn't use reason to get to their position so you're under no obligation to try to reason them out of it.
I don't. I just call them faggots
You can't.
"You disbelieve the facts, but believe the fact checkers without question?"
Not that that will ever work, but it might cause them to pause 😃
"You don't believe your own eyes, but do believe the fact checkers?"
Yeah that was my first response to the retard, and he just kept spamming pngs of factchecker site ratings.
Because you're attempting to argue with someone that's already made up "his" mind via peer pressure (real or imagined).