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Housing data shows sellers now exceed buyers by over 500,000, marking the largest imbalance ever recorded in the market (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 273 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 273 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +102 / -0
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– SophiesBoyfriend [S] 33 points 273 days ago +33 / -0

Good summary of why the housing market is frozen - (almost every seller is paying a low interest rate and every buyer will be paying a massive one)

https://youtu.be/T8J-IjF8IsM

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– TheRealLiszt 14 points 273 days ago +14 / -0

J Powell is a fucking idiot. That is all.

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– SR388-SAX 40 points 273 days ago +40 / -0

He's not an idiot. He knows exactly what the consequences of his actions are. He lowered interest rates at a time that they normally wouldn't purely to help the Biden administration, and now they're doing the opposite to Trump because they want to hurt his administration.

Chris Martenson at Peak Prosperity likes to call Powell and Yellen "monetary vandals."

I think it's an apt description.

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– Ahaus667 35 points 273 days ago +35 / -0

Honestly i think it’s far more nefarious than this. The fact is this is just a precursor of the massive housing surplus that will happen when boomers start passing away. Those 1 million dollar (overvalued) homes won’t sell and this will be used used as an excuse to mass immigrate again and those immigrants will receive low interest loans from the government to buy houses and “save” the market. Create the crisis and sell the solution.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 22 points 273 days ago +22 / -0

The last time we gave browns mortgages to buy houses resulted in the Global Financial Crisis of 2008. Those toxic loans are still on the Fed's books, despite then-Chairman Ben Bernanke promising it's a "temporary" emergency measure and it would be sold on the open market "eventually".

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– mikhalych 13 points 273 days ago +13 / -0

don't knock the guy, he has no good option. they're stuck. they cant inflate further because it fucks with the social contract too much, and they can't inflate less because they need to pay the handouts (to both lower and upper strata), or they get a revolution.

the actual resource cost of bribing useless parasites into not blowing up moden society exceeds what said society can produce to such an extent that even borrowing against its kids' future isnt enough.

there is no way to make this work.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 24 points 273 days ago +24 / -0

The Fed could start by ceasing their bailout programs of banks, MMFs, and even non-financial corporate entities. Currently we have a moral hazard where certain people can gamble with the economy and keep their jobs regardless of what happens, all in the name of "stability."

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– undecidedmask2 15 points 273 days ago +15 / -0

The gambling with other people’s money needs to stop. Honestly, with some of the moves these financial institutions make, I’d rather them play in a rigged mob casino because at least there would be a chance of winning something.

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– mikhalych 8 points 273 days ago +8 / -0

that goes into my "upper strata handout" bin.

they can't stop funding parasites or they will get overthrown.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 273 days ago +4 / -0

I don't know man, bullets are relatively cheap, especially when you buy at the scale the federal government would need to buy to put down the leeches.

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– Kaarous 2 points 273 days ago +2 / -0

There's a way to make it work. It's just not very nice, and involves a mountain of corpses.

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– deleted 1 point 273 days ago +1 / -0
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– Gizortnik 9 points 273 days ago +9 / -0

That's some of it, definitely. But another part is that people who could sell, have chosen to rent, or Air BNB. The Rental and Air BNB bubble will basically destroy property prices in cities when it pops.

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– Adamrises 7 points 273 days ago +7 / -0

I bought my home just a few years back, which means it came with a bunch of fancy apps to track values and equity and all that.

And on every single one of them, there is a "If you Air BNB this many days of the month at this value, you can pay off your house by X!!" calculator attached. And its fucking juicy looking, like 7 years instead of 30 if you only do 12/30 days a month.

That's the kind of temptation that will get a lot of people, even those who aren't big rich investors looking into that market.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 8 points 273 days ago +8 / -0

All those numbers depend on line go up forever and nothing bad happening to the market or economy or even AirBnB's terms of service (which everyone is leaving for hotels due to cleaning fees).

If you can pay for a house in cash and want to dabble in real estate, that's one thing. Mortgaging a house to rent is no different from buying stock on margin.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 273 days ago +1 / -0

That's new, but that cost comes with the dangers (and laws) of renting and advertising. Investment properties are investments. You can lose your principle if you're not careful. Considering how many people are doing it, I'd suggest that we have a bubble because of it.

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– justaddwater 2 points 273 days ago +2 / -0

Yes let's blame the fed and not endless war and debt and money printer whirring

Derp

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– undecidedmask2 11 points 273 days ago +11 / -0

The fed runs the money printer and works with the war hawks.

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– justaddwater 4 points 273 days ago +4 / -0

$1t in new debt every 100 days and its the fed that's the problem...sure bud

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– SparkMandrill83 5 points 273 days ago +5 / -0

They're literally partners in crime

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