This all started with Nick Fuentes endorsing Gavin Newsom as "Aryan" and a "chad," further elaborating that if you don't like him, you're gay. The hive mind quickly responded.
Top groyper lieutenant Kaguya's Top Gal (a verified Mexican) started touting Newsom's white family, proclaiming him "whiter than most Republicans" and hyping up his dad's Nazi connections.
Groyper congressional candidate Kyle Langford recorded a video endorsement of Newsom's gerrymandering plan.
Another groyper account started posting young glamour photos of Newsom and advertising Newsom 2028 merch while crapping on JD Vance. Lest you think this is ironic, think again.
For his part, Newsom was tickled to have the groyper endorsement. Since Nick is a fiend for anyone that flatters him from the mainstream, we're looking at potentially months of Newsom posting.
At the same time, an illegal Indian truck driver who got his CDL from Newsom in California just killed a whole family in Florida.
I guess I'm just wondering if this latest stunt is so traitorous to any pro-white beliefs that Nick won't be able to keep up his "I'm pro-every Dem and anti-every Republican because I'm so BASED and ANTI-ISRAEL" routine.
An American family is dead because of Newsom, and groypers are gushing over his high school pictures.
Nick is such a weirdo I can't even tell if he's trolling or not. I thought he was, most of the way through, but then toward the end it leaves me wondering.
Let's for the sake of argument take him at his word and address the argument, because it's funny. I still kind of think he's trolling (this is one thing I don't like about him, that he intentionally clip farms and is just not trustworthy), but again I want to address the argument. No...being pro-white doesn't mean supporting every white dude. Being pro-white means supporting pro-white people, movements, and messages.
I don't give a shit how "Aryan" Newsom is, he's gleefully helped turn California into a minority white state. If you care about white people, you don't support Newsom. Newsom hates white people, or is at the very least willing to work with and for people who hate whites. If Nick isn't trolling, he's really, really retarded, or acting in bad faith.
It's Nick, so he probably was trolling, and he probably even said right before this "I'm fucking trolling," but decided to throw this retard hand grenade at the internet because he thought it's funny and he wants to get his name out there more, by any means necessary. Either way, this shit isn't helpful...to anyone really.
The only thing I do agree with here is that it's not just Republican versus Democrat...and I do have trouble trusting Vance. Oh...and it's hilarious Newsom retweeted a groyper, if that's what happened. That's fucking funny.
If you have an army of 80 IQ dumbasses that hang on your every word and will rabidly attack anything you want while shitting up any space they’re in, you have to be careful about what you point them at. Nick so consistently points them at allies that “trolling” isn’t really a defense. If he really believes things like “Newsom is better for whites,” and “Kamala is better than Trump,” he’s retarded. If he doesn’t believe that, but he consistently stirs up his followers to take massively counterproductive positions as trolling, he’s still retarded.
The only other option is that he’s an outright enemy. Considering how he skated on January 6th and how consistently poisonous he is to the right, I don’t find that hard to believe.
Him skating is the most obvious sign he’s a fed
I didn't think this was the case until I saw the shit he said on January 6th. He literally was calling for people to break into the Capitol and physically fight with police.
In every other case of any J6'er would have been in federal prison until he was pardoned. So many people were raided dozens of times, were tortured, were denied plea deals, had their attorneys threatened, had their families homes raided.
This motherfucker is literally Nick Fuentes, and the cops didn't even interrogate him? He got leaked information?
There's NO WAY he's not a fed.
What do you think the Trump admin hopes to get out of the Fuentes op?
I said "Fed", not "people who the feds are hoping to avoid getting cycled out in the next term". Please don't act like the Deep State has been purged while Pam Blondie continues to shit herself on Fox News as most of the DOJ continues it's Biden-Era actions.
Bondi is part of Trump's admin. Why is the DOJ continuing its Biden-era actions under Trump? What are they getting out of that?
Blondi doesn't even seem to know what cases the DOJ is handling at any given time, that's what MTG had to point out to her on more than one occasion.
That's happening because the Deep State continues to operated under Globalist policies that they were operating under the Biden regime, because it benefits them. This happens until there are stronger purges of the departments, in the way that RFK, Tulsi, and Rubio have preformed.
The Trump admin has shit all to do with it
If it's a fed operation the Trump admin has plenty to do with it.
That makes no fucking sense since Fuentes got boosted before Trump got back into office
Israel First ziocons can say "oh you're against us, are you with the weird little gay kid in his mom's basement?"
There were exactly two people who were completely immune to January 6th prosecutions: Nick Fuentes and Ray Epps. They targeted polite grandmas, people who quietly walked between the velvet ropes after police opened the doors for them, people who weren't even there, but not those two specific guys.
Yup, even people who plead guilty early and co-operated with the police got fucking railroaded for 4 straight years. This is why everyone had to be pardoned, including the people who were guilty. The feds wouldn't stop persecuting them. We had a post on this sub of a J6'er who explained why the pardon's were needed because he was investigated by a half dozen agencies, was raided a dozen times, and even had the FBI planting evidence to try and get him to violate FFL regulations AFTER he had plead guilty and been let go for time served.
Of all people, Nick Fuentes gets questioned and let go?!!! The actual White Nationalist Holocaust Denier walks away, when Enrique Tario gets charged with Sedition while not being present because he's part of the prosecutor's conspiracy theory? The conspiracy theory that Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, Enrique Tario, and Donald Trump personally worked together to try and assassinate Mike Pence and dissolve congress in a White Supremacist race riot insurrection.
Absolutely fucking not.
Yup. Nick either doesn't care (because he thinks it's funny and has bought into the "Nick Fuentes" brand), or he's a bad actor.
Yup, inclined to agree. Funny thing is, with him being in the news again I was going to check him out, as I like checking out controversial or canceled people. I don't like Nick's style, but I was willing to give him a chance for fairness's sake. And I still might. But this is just reinforcing my existing idea that he's an annoying weirdo that's poison to those around him.
At this point Nick has "trolled" in
I don't know if there's anyone who will assert they can't see a pattern here, but Nick has never met a lib, gay, or non-white he doesn't like as long as they're opposing a Republican in some way.
Don't forget he took credit for Trump being elected in 2024, and he claimed he supported Trump.
Honestly, some of the worst shit I see is how he treats people, he really does try to push rabid narcissism as a feature of his brand. He literally screamed at a fan who ordered a flag and hadn't got it in 6 weeks, and sent a super-chat asking him to see what the delay was.
He reminds me of those leftist faggots that the DNC propped up social media
Should have put him in the "White Dudes for Kamala" ad.
There are no politcal differences between groypers and troons, they only differ slightly in syntax (but not targets, both groups want to see the end of normal white people).
Being expected to know what a catboy is: PROGRESS.
This furthers my argument that Furries have disproportionate power in society.
I caught wind of this pro-Newsom swing among the supposed 'alt' right about a month back, when I watched Elijah Schaffer for the first time seriously. Don't know much about him, never watched an eceleb I didn't dislike, but I was drunk and thought I'd try to get into the spirit of this whole content consumption thing. Imagine my surprise when Schaffer started comparing Gavin Newsom, of all US politicians, favourably to Trump and most on the right. His point was 'at least he represents his voters' interests because he gives leftists what they want' - which is garbage, because as much as mexicans and blacks are locked into voting Dem through generational tribal alliances, not even they want massive shantytowns, no-go inner cities and wildfires with no water in the hydrants. To say nothing of California whites being sold their own extinction by this 'better representative'.
A significant portion of the chat turned mocking and hostile, including me. lmao nice commie podcast faggot. Schaffer looked uncomfortable with the chat hostility - but it occurred to me afterwards that maybe he's uncomfortable having to say any of this at all. I sniffed the reek of psyop then and haven't watched Schaffer a second time due that uneasiness, but the way it's really raged into top gear with Fuentes seems like it removes all doubt. It all feels astroturfed. I scrolled X for 5 minutes yesterday checking 'JD Vance' trending, thinking maybe something had happened at the Putin summit, and was met with a wall of cringey 'Newsom vs Vance' memes only women or homos could have dreamt up. There is simply no way that there is an organic thirst for Newsom's political image, given that his image is exactly the kind of airbrushed trendy WEFfaggot the world has grown sick of for nearly 30 years in the form of Blair, Cameron, Trudeau, Starmer, etc.
Elijah Schaffer is another suspect person who says some "based" things at times. He's accused of sexually harassing teenage boy groypers and is a fed informant.
Also allegedly fingered right wing grifter emily saves america in a hotel lobby
Wait, wait, wait, Elijah was the other party to the "Emily is a gigaslut" thing?!
That's wild.
According to the rumor mill
If I've got my fed informants right, I think he might have had a good reason or that.
But it's still sketch.
It's sad that our own federal agencies are so suspect that even reporting bad people to them for good reasons gets you in hot water.
Like (and this is just an example, I don't remember the specifics), even if you catch an actual pedophile or something, if you report them to THE FEDS, you become a fed yourself.
It's amazing how busted our own law enforcement is that, reputationally, you're better off letting the worst of the worst go, than becoming an "informant."
This is how you get vigilante justice. These fucks suck.
To clarify, Elijah informed on people with regard to J6.
Oof. If true, I guess I had my fed informants confused. Because so many of these people are feds.
That shit ain't cool, and I officially disavow.
Shame, he was one of my go to sources for news around the time of the Canadian trucker convoy.
Dang, I liked Schaffer back before they got him fired, ruined his life, and he went insane. Sad to hear that it sounds like he's still a sperg.
Candace Owens talked about interviewing him on Tucker recently. Apparently he was fine in person and cordial, then a few days after sperged out like he'd been given talking points.
Tucker also commented that he's a very naturally gifted theatre kid, and it also came up there is a multitude of theatre kids in world leader positions for some reason.
Combined with the fact that he's never said anything useful, always histrionically carrying on I think he's just a paid shill playing a part. Has he ever said anything useful to anyone?
EDIT I didn't realise that he didn't face any repercussions from J6, definitely a fed propaganda asset just paid to increase the noise to signal ratio.
Again, didn't watch the whole thing, but it seems like Candace went after Nick pretty hard. I don't follow Nick, so I'm not sure his reaction or how suspicious it was, but it does seem like Candace acted against him in bad faith too. And I put that together from what I heard of Candace's content, not Nick's.
Yeah, it does seem like that's a very decent probability.
I think he's been rehabilitated or is trying to be by the establishment. He's suddenly very tame and is stepping back all his rhetoric.
I think he's too successful now.
It alarms me to see the YouTube algorithm recommend him to me.
Didn’t Nick start going hard after Tucker Carlson around the time Tucker had all of those very anti-Israel guests on his show? Really makes you think…
Yeah, it's pretty bizarre that Tucker is closer than ever to Nick's anti-Israel position and now is when Nick is laying into him.
Tucker did take a shot at Nick recently which was the proximate cause for the animosity, but Nick never agreed with or supported anything he was saying against Israel.
Yeah, Candace was acting weird too. I didn't catch the whole thing, but from the clips it did look like she went after Nick hard in their sit-down, then played innocent and baited Tucker into this nonsense too.
I like Candace more than Nick, but that seemed pretty damn shifty. She's acting like she was nice to Nick, and then Nick freaked out, when it seems like she was antagonistic, and then she played the victim.
Candace tried to destroy Nick, from what I can tell, and then tried to get Tucker on her side. It's all a bunch of weird nonsense, and they're all acting kind of dumb. Tucker shouldn't have resorted to personal attacks, and it's weird, since it's totally not his style. Candace shouldn't have ambushed Nick. And Nick, as most people in this thread are saying, should stop being a retard who is poisonous to everything he touches, and damaging to the actual causes we care about.
I mostly agree, except that personal attacks are extremely on brand for Tucker. He called Bill Ackman an unimpressive billionaire and has taken all kinds of shots at Ben Shapiro, John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, and other neocons. Which is all warranted as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not totally sure of Candace's angle in bringing Nick on, but I think she wanted to separate her brand from the groypers since people were starting to naturally lump them together. Not one of her most savvy plays imo, but her audience trends more towards women, normies, and boomers, so she could be seeing something I'm not.
Going after Nick without acknowledging the strength of his stance against Zionism just helps him.
I more meant the angle of attack.
Calling someone a 'gay basement-dweller kid' is rhetoric that is far beneath Tucker.
And, yeah, that theory could make sense, that Candace wanted to make some distance. Still should have been honest about it, though. Again, didn't watch, but it seems like she invited him for a friendly sit-down, then went after him hard. Then lied about it after the fact. That's not cool.
Just say "hey, Nick, I don't like you, want to come talk about it?" He'd likely be down and, if he wasn't, well, that weakens him too, since he and his army are always like "debate Nick! Why won't you debate Nick?!"
Denounce him to his face, openly. Don't be a snake.
I will say, although I think Nick Fuentes is probably a bad actor, he's kind of a genius at marketing, I'll give him that.
Oh OK. Yeah, it is lazy. That seems to be characteristic of the mainstream's attacks on Nick, I think partly because it's almost too easy (it's almost like an anglerfish lure) and partly because they don't want to actually talk about his hot potato ideas like race realism, Holocaust revisionism, etc.
For the same reasons I'm not surprised by Candace's approach. They all seem to think they can take a killshot on Nick because after all, he's just a kid in a basement right? But for all his obvious faults, he is a generational broadcasting talent and has plenty of substance behind his favorite talking points, so the shortcuts fail every time.
Well to be fair Fuentes is a gay basement dweller kid
Everyone should stay away from Candace and Nick and their bullshit.
Well Candace is a woman
Nick, with his bailing on J6 and seeming desire to poison anything right wing by immediately jumping the gun to the most normie toxic opinion, makes me trust Tucker more than him, and Tucker’s Dad was CIA. I may agree with Nick on a lot of stuff but his persona and fans are really stupid and a hindrance to the alternative right.
Yup. I can't even say if I agree with Nick on things, because I can't stand listening to his smug and smarmy voice, but his fans are clearly menaces, and usually not in a good way.
Funny thing is, I was going to force myself to give him a chance, because I try to check out controversial or canceled people, and he was making the rounds again...but this nonsense just mostly cements my idea that, even if he's not a bad actor, he's dangerous to everyone around him.
Even if he does say good things, it seems he's very damaging to those who get even tangentially linked to him. And he seems fairly smart, despite his act, so it's not accidental, either. The more shit like this he pulls, the easier it is to just dismiss him as a bad actor.
I agree wholeheartedly. He’s poisoning the well.
It's similar to how Ron DeSantis is a really competent governor, but his presidential campaign was full of the nastiest, most abrasive "right wing" guys on the internet and completely ruined it.
I’m telling y’all, Nick is not to be trusted. His followers being so rabid also concerns me.
Further proof Nick is retarded
I'm actually starting to believe he's a fed, there's a fine line to being retarded and being PAID to be retarded..
He swore under oath in his J6 deposition he wasn't. Then again, he might've turned after.
That means absolutely nothing
Groypers? Right-wing?
The guys who claim to be the most right wing are jealous, depressed nihilists who want to see America collapse, thought Luigi Mangione was right, and hang on every word from a Mexican political activist who campaigned for Kamala Harris.
For the longest time I couldn't get a good read on him; I wasn't sure if he was a fed or just a fag. Now the answer is clear: he's both
Do you all fucking get it yet?
The alt right are literally just suicide bombers for the populist right. They're not even real fucking racists, their just Leftists.
I'm tired of these fags being online and pretending to have any contribution to any dialogue.
Aesthetically Newsom has the White trad family w 4 kids and Anglo elite capital vs JD Vance being the dork aesthetically who gets the less desirable Asian wife with 2 hapa kids.
Most of us have been too polite to point out the dichotomy.
Indian.
In Britian they call Indians Asian.
Yes, we all know how the brits like to use euphemisms to cover over ugly truths.
I mean, it's not about being polite. One (Newsom, to be clear) is a proven enemy. The other is, in my opinion, deeply untrustworthy...but not a proven enemy.
Anyone who votes for Newsom over Vance, if that comes to pass, is a retard. Double retard if it's because you claim to care about white people.
And, to be clear, I'm not even saying "Vote Vance." I've said I don't trust him, I've said I personally am not sure I'll be able to pull the trigger if he's the dude. But I'd vote third party, not for someone like Newsom.
Yeah, the only dichotomy here is that one personally race mixes while the other pushes policies that race mix society as a whole while avoiding it himself.
Its really an iq test for some people
I also saw a literal prc 50 center shilling for newsom
There is also Newsome is a scum bag and an enemy so why try to make him look cool?
Uh yeah. That's what this post is about
What is your opinion of Sheriff Chad Bianco? His likely rival in the upcoming governor's race.
It's California. Doesn't matter who his challenger is.
A Jewish judge will just push through whatever legislation they want no matter the public vote.
I don't even get your point here. Is it that people you like are saying he's cool, so he must be? Has it occurred to you Nick could be wrong or manipulative, and groypers could be going along with his shit unquestioningly?
Newsome is the enemy, so anyone trying to say he's great needs to at the very least be looked at critically.
Don't take anyone's word for anything; make up your own mind. Look at what Gavin Newsom advocates for, and what he's done. Is he your friend, or your enemy?
It not even a meme that originated with da groypers. It’s a choice and a choice b both sucking.
Liberal White duchebag or race mixing MAGA. No political solution meme.
Since the groypers believe in a polical option is at hand they are midwits trying to own the Nationalist calling them gay browns.
Ah, yes. "Voting".
I don't care how anyone feels about voting...
Don't support people who hate you.
Fuck you.
Meanwhile, the amount of "White Nationalists" that have Yellow Fever...
I consider those tourists and ‘thrill seekers’. Wiggers with a high credit score.
Hitler did say the Japanese were honorary Aryans.
Even though the "model minority" thing has long since been debunked the based Koreans are extremely keyed. Things like the LA riots will do that.
Which goes to show how hypocritical the whole thing is.
Look, either they were colonized by the Hyperboreans, or they weren't. And if only the Hyperborean, 12 foot tall, frost giant, Ayrians are the only ones capable of founding civilizations, then the Japanese shouldn't have one.
Takes one to know one, Nicky boy.