Of course, the rest of them don't admit that Germans are taught to hate themselves. It's a very useful instrument though. The German state did WW2, and now that same German state is using WW2 to make people who were not even born then to shut up. Win-win.
it's just bigotry by a government of occupiers and subverters. in no other case do you punish an entire group of people for the sins of other people who are only loosely related to that group. that's the foundation of racism/sexism, etc.
they do the same shit with white guilt and racism/slavery. less than 1% of white people in the 1860s and prior owned slaves. a very large portion of slave owners in the US were not white. the first slave owner was black, and over 60% of slave markets were closed on saturdays but not sundays because a certain religion views saturday as the sabboth. even more ridiculous, the incredible majority of white americans are descendants of people who arrived in the US after slavery was already illegal, and had nothing to do with slavery ever. holding today's white people responsible for that is just racist and bigoted.
Are you sure the AFD isn't just going around saying "nuh uh , Hitler was actually a socialist"? That doesn't get rid of German guilt, that's just an unconvincing attempt to push the ball over to other Germans.
At least with the far right in Japan, they don't try to pretend imperial Japan was leftist . They are more like "yes imperial japan is right wing but we don't care, actually instead we are going to bitch about how America threw out all the far right wing Japanese from politics and media after ww2" Even Yoko Mada says the right wing in Japan lost its power because America threw them out of politics and media after ww2, and Yoko isn't even far right, she's a milktoast neocon Jap
Are you sure the AFD isn't just going around saying "nuh uh , Hitler was actually a socialist"? That doesn't get rid of German guilt, that's just an unconvincing attempt to push the ball over to other Germans.
Sounds like something some would say. But it's quite different entirely, they simply don't believe in hereditary guilt for anything.
You don't have to pretend that everything your country's government has ever done was good to not believe in 'guilt'.
At least with the far right in Japan, they don't try to pretend imperial Japan was leftist . They are more like "yes imperial japan is right wing but we don't care, actually instead we are going to bitch about how America threw out all the far right wing Japanese from politics and media after ww2"
Eh, it's Euro-American cope to pretend that Nazis were left-wing. They've been equated with 'evil', so one side tries to pin it on the other and vice versa.
Are you sure the AFD isn't just going around saying "nuh uh , Hitler was actually a socialist"?
Depends on who you ask in the AfD. The AfD is basically split between the actual right wingers (who are single-handedly responsible for its success) and the liberals trying to push the right wingers out of the party to cozy up with the mainstream establishment.
In short: East = based ; West = cucked ; Federal = more cucked than based
What you have to remember is openly questioning the narrative in Germany can get you thrown into prison and generally will make your life quite difficult. Depending how far you go. Free speech doesn't exist there.
the most i've seen on the topic is the lesbian AFD leader trying to claim that "Hitler was a socialist and she's the opposite of Hitler because she's libertarian capitalist"
National socialism is not the same as marxist socialism. When people accuse nazis of being socialist they are deliberately trying to mix up national socialists (national socialism is invented by antisemitic aryans) with marxists(marxism is invented by jews) when they are different things. its why they say "socialist" instead of "national socialists" . Because by saying "socialist" and ignoring the "national" at the front of it, they can confuse people and make people think ot marxists instead.
How about judge National Socialists by their beliefs, values, policies and the results and not by their name.
Gay Malthusian pagan socialism with some early feminist policies too, but with at least the sense to preference their own people (and in the ethnic sense, not the nonsense borders sense)
That last point in their favour isn't sufficient, it's the bare minimum and common sense throughout most of history. Everything else about them is cringe and gay. Including the socialism. Which yes, you're right that just because they call themselves socialist wouldn't necessarily mean they are, it's their stated and enacted economic policies which make it so.
The AfD.
Of course, the rest of them don't admit that Germans are taught to hate themselves. It's a very useful instrument though. The German state did WW2, and now that same German state is using WW2 to make people who were not even born then to shut up. Win-win.
it's just bigotry by a government of occupiers and subverters. in no other case do you punish an entire group of people for the sins of other people who are only loosely related to that group. that's the foundation of racism/sexism, etc.
they do the same shit with white guilt and racism/slavery. less than 1% of white people in the 1860s and prior owned slaves. a very large portion of slave owners in the US were not white. the first slave owner was black, and over 60% of slave markets were closed on saturdays but not sundays because a certain religion views saturday as the sabboth. even more ridiculous, the incredible majority of white americans are descendants of people who arrived in the US after slavery was already illegal, and had nothing to do with slavery ever. holding today's white people responsible for that is just racist and bigoted.
Are you sure the AFD isn't just going around saying "nuh uh , Hitler was actually a socialist"? That doesn't get rid of German guilt, that's just an unconvincing attempt to push the ball over to other Germans.
At least with the far right in Japan, they don't try to pretend imperial Japan was leftist . They are more like "yes imperial japan is right wing but we don't care, actually instead we are going to bitch about how America threw out all the far right wing Japanese from politics and media after ww2" Even Yoko Mada says the right wing in Japan lost its power because America threw them out of politics and media after ww2, and Yoko isn't even far right, she's a milktoast neocon Jap
Sounds like something some would say. But it's quite different entirely, they simply don't believe in hereditary guilt for anything.
You don't have to pretend that everything your country's government has ever done was good to not believe in 'guilt'.
Eh, it's Euro-American cope to pretend that Nazis were left-wing. They've been equated with 'evil', so one side tries to pin it on the other and vice versa.
And what's the non-cope reason they weren't socialist
Depends on who you ask in the AfD. The AfD is basically split between the actual right wingers (who are single-handedly responsible for its success) and the liberals trying to push the right wingers out of the party to cozy up with the mainstream establishment.
In short: East = based ; West = cucked ; Federal = more cucked than based
What you have to remember is openly questioning the narrative in Germany can get you thrown into prison and generally will make your life quite difficult. Depending how far you go. Free speech doesn't exist there.
the most i've seen on the topic is the lesbian AFD leader trying to claim that "Hitler was a socialist and she's the opposite of Hitler because she's libertarian capitalist"
Yeah. Because Hitler is a Socialist.
The great shame of the German people is that they believed a Leftist would save them from Leftism, but still give them all the cool things of Leftism.
You're JIDF so your opinion on Hitler doesn't matter
it's literally in the name. "National Socialist German Workers' Party"
National socialism is not the same as marxist socialism. When people accuse nazis of being socialist they are deliberately trying to mix up national socialists (national socialism is invented by antisemitic aryans) with marxists(marxism is invented by jews) when they are different things. its why they say "socialist" instead of "national socialists" . Because by saying "socialist" and ignoring the "national" at the front of it, they can confuse people and make people think ot marxists instead.
that's a very long winded way to say "socialism isn't real socialism"
socialists love to dress up their toxic ideology with qualifiers and pseudo intellectualism.
How about judge National Socialists by their beliefs, values, policies and the results and not by their name. How about that?
Or do you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic?
Gay Malthusian pagan socialism with some early feminist policies too, but with at least the sense to preference their own people (and in the ethnic sense, not the nonsense borders sense)
That last point in their favour isn't sufficient, it's the bare minimum and common sense throughout most of history. Everything else about them is cringe and gay. Including the socialism. Which yes, you're right that just because they call themselves socialist wouldn't necessarily mean they are, it's their stated and enacted economic policies which make it so.
According to you . Marxism(invented by jews) is the same as national socialism(invented by antisemitic aryans)
They are literally opposing concepts invented by opposing tribes.
"noooo White people don't you dare collectivize as a group, you must be seperate and weak while your enemies collectivize against you . "
Dude, I was taught to hate Germans in America. Why would that change when visiting where I spent my childhood?
If he did exist he'd be gulaged within minutes of stating these facts
I 100% agree. I also think we should have dropped another 2 nukes on them.