"jeffery epstein hoax"
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Trump is guilty. Sorry but i really think he's guilty at this point. If right wingers want to survive and not lose all credibility with normies(or anyone not part of the Trump cult) ,, they need to distance themselves from Trump for this shit
I'm skeptical. I don't think Trump is guilty - else it would have been a driving wedge the democrats would have used in the previous, shit, 12 years? 10?
But I do think the content of said list is so devestating, that it's made a number of people finally yank his chain to curb it. Not in a sense of 'do this and we'll scratch your back', but more in a sense of 'Stop talking about this or everyone you love dies.'
Trumps a businessman, for good or for ill. His entire thing is giving people what they want. He's been talking hot shit about the Epstein list only to have him abruptly pivot in such a dramatic fashion? No. Something's up. I think we're just getting a glimpse of the leviathan's tail. But public trust has been worn threadbare over the several years, and people want some fucking scalps.
Who knows where this is all going to go in the long term.
As I and many others pointed out: IF Trump were on the list? It would have been "leaked" many years ago.
You know who IS on the list? Hillary Clinton. At least 6 visits. And a host of other Dems, leftists and WEF cronies like Canada's "PM" Carney. (His wife is BFF with Maxwell) They ALL went to the Island and it wasn't to "work on their tans" eh?
If Trump were on the list, it wouldn't have needed to be leaked because the leverage would have turned him into a compliant, Mitch McConnell style establishment republican right after his first inauguration. Instead he was a loose cannon and managed to somehow drag the Overton window a bit back to the right and freak out the establishment on both sides of the aisle. And he definitely wouldn't have campaigned on releasing the thing for his reelection. Clearly they have something on him now, but not that.
The only potential counterargument I've heard for that, and I'm not saying this is the case, just throwing it out there, is that it could have been held back as leverage for if/when he got in again. The blackmail would be held back by the deep state as insurance. I don't think it's the likeliest, but it is kind of how blackmail works sometimes.
Why would you talk about something like that if you are involved in it? did he forget he flew there or something?
That might be possible? But only (I think) if it were the ONLY thing they have on Trump. They've trotted out some spectacularly STUPID accusations so far, which would undermine any valid accusations they might have. So thus far they reek of desperation, hard to see them holding a "trump card" after all this.
Now, just after Comey's bitch daughter got fired? "Someone" "leaked" an alleged birthday card from Trump to Epstein, dated long after Trump threw him out & never spoke to him again. Highly unbelievable & I hope DJT gets another $16 million from this.
its not leaked because both sides are on it. Important people on both the democrat and republican side are on that list. That's why neither side want to leak it
Without doubt there's LOTS of Dems on the list. Epstein was a huge Dem backer in funds and organizing. That there's also some Repubs on it is a given, but who they are is a mystery. McConnell probably... he reeks of perversion.
So you think the guy who invited Epstein to Mar-a-Lago and who is seen in pictures partying with Epstein and who Epstein called "his closest friend" is totally innocent.... Sure....
Was all of that before, or AFTER Epstein was charged and convicted as a pedo?
it was before. and add this from an article from 2002
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”- back in 2002 Donald Trump
https://archive.md/6rQtW
You dickless dweebs are so obsessed with phantom pedophiles you'll give the country over to our enemies, who are actual murderous pedos, just to continue your gay crusade.
We aren't handing the country over to the Democrats. Trump is.
If so many people around here are losing their shit over this, just what do you think it is doing to swing voters and people who reluctantly voted Republican in 2024?
We are supposed to be the people who follow him no matter what, so by the time he manages to run some of us off, the damage has already been done. This is all on him.
I don't think he is guilty but he can kiss his family goodbye one way or another if he releases it. These people wont let us go without a fight. Boomers and Isreal can only be seperated by death, especially when you're daughter is married to one of the chosen ones.
Trump invited Epstein to Mar-a-Lago and is seen in pictures partying with Epstein and who Epstein called "his closest friend"
I think he turned a blind eye in order to access the epstein financial network. There's two sides to epstein. He had billions from Wexner and was deeply plugged into private equity.
Do you support democrats? This is what a Democrat would say. The economy is booming, deportations are underway and israel is our greatest ally, perhaps greater than ever before. They will be so great your head will spin.
I think your sarcasm is too subtle for some people.
What he says is true, but knowing his history he's trying to be sarcastic.
The Dems suddenly WANT the files opened, after hiding his crimes and actively helping him evade charges for all these years.
Remember: in the Florida case, the Dem DA was going to give him a real "sweetheart deal" with no jail time at all for recruiting minors for prostitution through is legit business operations. An election got a Repub into office & he tore that deal up, getting a conviction and sentence with jail time. What did the Media do? Accused him of being too lenient. Typical, eh?
Democrats will vote to impeach him again if they win the midterms.