I'm skeptical. I don't think Trump is guilty - else it would have been a driving wedge the democrats would have used in the previous, shit, 12 years? 10?
But I do think the content of said list is so devestating, that it's made a number of people finally yank his chain to curb it. Not in a sense of 'do this and we'll scratch your back', but more in a sense of 'Stop talking about this or everyone you love dies.'
Trumps a businessman, for good or for ill. His entire thing is giving people what they want. He's been talking hot shit about the Epstein list only to have him abruptly pivot in such a dramatic fashion? No. Something's up. I think we're just getting a glimpse of the leviathan's tail. But public trust has been worn threadbare over the several years, and people want some fucking scalps.
Who knows where this is all going to go in the long term.
As I and many others pointed out: IF Trump were on the list? It would have been "leaked" many years ago.
You know who IS on the list? Hillary Clinton. At least 6 visits. And a host of other Dems, leftists and WEF cronies like Canada's "PM" Carney. (His wife is BFF with Maxwell) They ALL went to the Island and it wasn't to "work on their tans" eh?
If Trump were on the list, it wouldn't have needed to be leaked because the leverage would have turned him into a compliant, Mitch McConnell style establishment republican right after his first inauguration. Instead he was a loose cannon and managed to somehow drag the Overton window a bit back to the right and freak out the establishment on both sides of the aisle. And he definitely wouldn't have campaigned on releasing the thing for his reelection. Clearly they have something on him now, but not that.
IF Trump were on the list? It would have been "leaked" many years ago.
The only potential counterargument I've heard for that, and I'm not saying this is the case, just throwing it out there, is that it could have been held back as leverage for if/when he got in again. The blackmail would be held back by the deep state as insurance. I don't think it's the likeliest, but it is kind of how blackmail works sometimes.
I guess that hypothetical would involve Trump also being right about the current form of the files being modified by Democrats. So even if this scenario, he's not directly a creep.
That might be possible? But only (I think) if it were the ONLY thing they have on Trump. They've trotted out some spectacularly STUPID accusations so far, which would undermine any valid accusations they might have. So thus far they reek of desperation, hard to see them holding a "trump card" after all this.
Now, just after Comey's bitch daughter got fired? "Someone" "leaked" an alleged birthday card from Trump to Epstein, dated long after Trump threw him out & never spoke to him again. Highly unbelievable & I hope DJT gets another $16 million from this.
its not leaked because both sides are on it. Important people on both the democrat and republican side are on that list. That's why neither side want to leak it
Without doubt there's LOTS of Dems on the list. Epstein was a huge Dem backer in funds and organizing. That there's also some Repubs on it is a given, but who they are is a mystery. McConnell probably... he reeks of perversion.
So you think the guy who invited Epstein to Mar-a-Lago and who is seen in pictures partying with Epstein and who Epstein called "his closest friend" is totally innocent.... Sure....
it was before. and add this from an article from 2002
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”- back in 2002 Donald Trump
You dickless dweebs are so obsessed with phantom pedophiles you'll give the country over to our enemies, who are actual murderous pedos, just to continue your gay crusade.
We aren't handing the country over to the Democrats. Trump is.
If so many people around here are losing their shit over this, just what do you think it is doing to swing voters and people who reluctantly voted Republican in 2024?
We are supposed to be the people who follow him no matter what, so by the time he manages to run some of us off, the damage has already been done. This is all on him.
I'm skeptical. I don't think Trump is guilty - else it would have been a driving wedge the democrats would have used in the previous, shit, 12 years? 10?
But I do think the content of said list is so devestating, that it's made a number of people finally yank his chain to curb it. Not in a sense of 'do this and we'll scratch your back', but more in a sense of 'Stop talking about this or everyone you love dies.'
Trumps a businessman, for good or for ill. His entire thing is giving people what they want. He's been talking hot shit about the Epstein list only to have him abruptly pivot in such a dramatic fashion? No. Something's up. I think we're just getting a glimpse of the leviathan's tail. But public trust has been worn threadbare over the several years, and people want some fucking scalps.
Who knows where this is all going to go in the long term.
As I and many others pointed out: IF Trump were on the list? It would have been "leaked" many years ago.
You know who IS on the list? Hillary Clinton. At least 6 visits. And a host of other Dems, leftists and WEF cronies like Canada's "PM" Carney. (His wife is BFF with Maxwell) They ALL went to the Island and it wasn't to "work on their tans" eh?
If Trump were on the list, it wouldn't have needed to be leaked because the leverage would have turned him into a compliant, Mitch McConnell style establishment republican right after his first inauguration. Instead he was a loose cannon and managed to somehow drag the Overton window a bit back to the right and freak out the establishment on both sides of the aisle. And he definitely wouldn't have campaigned on releasing the thing for his reelection. Clearly they have something on him now, but not that.
The only potential counterargument I've heard for that, and I'm not saying this is the case, just throwing it out there, is that it could have been held back as leverage for if/when he got in again. The blackmail would be held back by the deep state as insurance. I don't think it's the likeliest, but it is kind of how blackmail works sometimes.
Why would you talk about something like that if you are involved in it? did he forget he flew there or something?
I guess that hypothetical would involve Trump also being right about the current form of the files being modified by Democrats. So even if this scenario, he's not directly a creep.
That might be possible? But only (I think) if it were the ONLY thing they have on Trump. They've trotted out some spectacularly STUPID accusations so far, which would undermine any valid accusations they might have. So thus far they reek of desperation, hard to see them holding a "trump card" after all this.
Now, just after Comey's bitch daughter got fired? "Someone" "leaked" an alleged birthday card from Trump to Epstein, dated long after Trump threw him out & never spoke to him again. Highly unbelievable & I hope DJT gets another $16 million from this.
its not leaked because both sides are on it. Important people on both the democrat and republican side are on that list. That's why neither side want to leak it
Without doubt there's LOTS of Dems on the list. Epstein was a huge Dem backer in funds and organizing. That there's also some Repubs on it is a given, but who they are is a mystery. McConnell probably... he reeks of perversion.
So you think the guy who invited Epstein to Mar-a-Lago and who is seen in pictures partying with Epstein and who Epstein called "his closest friend" is totally innocent.... Sure....
Was all of that before, or AFTER Epstein was charged and convicted as a pedo?
it was before. and add this from an article from 2002
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”- back in 2002 Donald Trump
https://archive.md/6rQtW
You dickless dweebs are so obsessed with phantom pedophiles you'll give the country over to our enemies, who are actual murderous pedos, just to continue your gay crusade.
We aren't handing the country over to the Democrats. Trump is.
If so many people around here are losing their shit over this, just what do you think it is doing to swing voters and people who reluctantly voted Republican in 2024?
We are supposed to be the people who follow him no matter what, so by the time he manages to run some of us off, the damage has already been done. This is all on him.