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posted 362 days ago by NikolaiVsevolodovich 362 days ago by NikolaiVsevolodovich +43 / -0
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– horstshort 22 points 362 days ago +22 / -0

He gets upset because Israel violated the ceasefire. He didn't get upset when Israel used the negotiations as a cover to start a war. Instead he bombed Iran for Israel.

I'm not buying it until he truly fucks over Israel.

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– theaustrianpainter 16 points 362 days ago +16 / -0

The last president that tried to screw israel has his brain relocated onto the road while riding in the back of an open top car at a presidential parade.

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– MassivePecorino 15 points 362 days ago +15 / -0

A car that his vice president (from the state they were visiting) purposely scheduled himself to not ride in.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 362 days ago +2 / -0

Is "fucking over Israel" going to do any good?

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– horstshort 25 points 362 days ago +25 / -0

If you want to drain the swamp you need to annihilate the Israel lobby which in turn would completely fuck over Israel, so yes. It would do much good. Not only would it free up billions upon billions in taxpayer money but American lives wouldn't be on the line for a foreign country that has been actively engaging in hostile acts against the US since its founding.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 362 days ago +2 / -0

If you want to drain the swamp you need to annihilate the Israel lobby which in turn would completely fuck over Israel

Not really. Israel not receiving undue consideration would not 'fuck it over'. It would just not favor it exquisitely. Don't make me repeat the feminist catchphrase that to those who have been favored, equality feels like oppression.

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– horstshort 11 points 362 days ago +11 / -0

Israel not receiving undue consideration would not 'fuck it over'.

Yes it would. Because Israel is dependent on US gibz and protection as we could clearly see during the last few weeks.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 362 days ago +1 / -0

No, then they'd just NOT launch a needless war of aggression. Win-win in my view.

They have nuclear weapons, and a formidable army and intelligence, so their survival is not in doubt.

Frankly, playing tough with people and trying to be the regional hegemon might well backfire on Israel and cause other states to balance against it.

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– horstshort 4 points 361 days ago +4 / -0

Yeah, they'd be forced to actually engage in diplomacy which is akin to getting fucked in the ass. They couldn't treat Palestinians like cattle anymore with impunity and Greater Israel would become entirely impossible.

They have nuclear weapons, and a formidable army and intelligence, so their survival is not in doubt.

I guess that's up for debate. The last time the IDF has been tested against an actual formidable, regular military was 1973 and back then the US not only had to save their asses by bringing a metric shit ton of equipment but also by brokering a peace deal that the US has been paying Egypt billions for every year since then.

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– AntonioOfVenice 20 points 362 days ago +20 / -0

Watch the whole video. He slammed Israel repeatedly during that short talk, for doing a lot of bombing right before the ceasefire expired and for planning massive retaliation for that one missile that didn't kill anyone.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 362 days ago +3 / -0

I think he and I came to the same conclusion.

None of the belligerents actually have control over the situation. It's now properly out of control, and this is really what the anti-interventionists were warning about: Trump not wanting war isn't the same as Trump not getting one anyway, even if he does everything right, even if there's no subversion (and we know for a fact there's tons of it).

Now, hopefully, he either gets both sides to fuck off; or he will have to walk away. If Israel truly wants this war, then he'll need to do one of the most difficult thing any POTUS has ever done... and walk away from Israel in the middle of a war, with all of their influence.

I hope he does. He does seem genuinely upset. He's been lying a lot lately to try and manipulate events on the ground, but this seems like a very genuine rant. He's ranting at basically everyone. Someone get him a Diet Coke. Honestly, his walk away from the reporters makes it look like he's got a swagger of both anger and frustration. The whole time he's holding something in a plastic baggy in his hand. I'd bet he was up all night trying to unfuck the deal, and realizing that both parties shit the bed out of incompetence, loss of command and control, or outright subversion.

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– current_horror 10 points 362 days ago +10 / -0

Trump not wanting war isn't the same as Trump not getting one anyway

If we’re getting a war against our will because Israel refuses not to start one, then our problem is Israel. Which is exactly what so many of us have been saying. The founding fathers warned us about permanent foreign entanglements. It’s time to end our deference and obedience to the foreign nation of Israel.

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– SocraticMethod1 18 points 362 days ago +18 / -0

I checked out some mainstream feeds, it is SO FUNNY that they're pearl clutching like 'the president said a bad word! (Faints onto couch)' when these are the same people egging the US into a war.

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– Kienan 2 points 362 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah, they care more about F bombs than actual bombs.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 5 points 362 days ago +5 / -0

The New York part of Trump showed up

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– deleted 3 points 362 days ago +3 / -0
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– AlfredicEnglishRules 2 points 361 days ago +2 / -0

I have a feeling Israel may be bombed by the USA, a long with Tehran. Israel will be shocked because it's the first time since the first Persian Gulf war it happened. They might cry, and scream a bit, but both sides will suddenly want to negotiate peace. Especially since American forces are sitting in gray uglies nearby.

If they still fight, there may be another bombing. There will be a couple false flag attempts. The media will demand we choose a side.

I agree with some of you that it looks like the leadership of each side has lost control. Their officer class and media want a war to get praise.

At this point, I expect both to run out of ammo, scream a lot, and come up with a peace deal or destroy themselves. The other nearby countries win either way.

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– Kaarous 1 point 362 days ago +1 / -0

That's the real one by the way.

I encourage everyone to watch the Rogan interview, and contrast it with this. Those are two different men, plain as can be. The shorter, fatter one from Rogan, consistently says and does clown world stuff. This one does not.

Much like how there were clearly several Bidens, there are two Trumps. For whatever reason, there are two. It seems ridiculous, but your eyes aren't lying to you.

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– AnAmishWithATude 6 points 362 days ago +6 / -0

your eyes aren't lying to you

Is this self affirmation? Because I'm not seeing it. Someones eyes must be lying.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 362 days ago +6 / -0

In Russia, some people believe that there are ten Putins. It may sound new to Americans (hence the reactions of disbelief), but the belief that rulers have body doubles is quite a common idea.

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– Bouldabassed 8 points 362 days ago +8 / -0

Personally, I wouldn't rule it out on its face and freak out over it like its some whacky crackpot theory or something. It's not an outlandish concept. It just does not look like two different people to me.

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– current_horror 7 points 362 days ago +7 / -0

Multiple Trumps and Bidens is one of those theories that is beyond insane, and then 30 years later the CIA will be like “yeah, we did that shit”.

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– AnAmishWithATude 2 points 362 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah same here I can totally believe Trump has public body doubles, just not seeing it here. On the other hand not noticing them is the point isn't it.

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– Bouldabassed 1 point 361 days ago +1 / -0

Yeah but if you're really thoroughly looking for it, I would expect it to be noticeable. For something like this you'd just need to be able to fool the 99.9% of people who would never even think to look for it.

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