Because most of us have actual principles we hold, unlike the Left which usually downloads them from whatever media they consume.
Which leaves us with compromising on principles we hold dear if we want to "maintain unity," at which point we don't have principles and are just hypocrites in doing so.
Its not an effective tactic, but its one that makes complete sense. Pro-life people aren't going to just "accept" abortion to keep allies with them, because to them its literal child murder.
Pro-life people aren't going to just "accept" abortion to keep allies with them, because to them its literal child murder.
No one's asking them to 'accept' abortion. But they are mature about even the issue they believe is literal child murder. Look at how they did not oppose Tulsi or RFK Jr.
Tulsi and RFK Jr. won't be in charge of anything abortion-related, and aren't out there advocating for abortion, and also haven't claimed to have had (or their significant others to have had) abortions.
I agree. But that's my point. Pence's PAC tried to sink RFK by citing abortion. The abortion groups are more mature and tolerant of disagreement. I can definitely imagine a world where they would have said that no pro-abortion should be in the cabinet.
Imagine if Biden had nominated two genuine anti-abortions to positions, even ones that were irrelevant to hte opinion.
Lots of corners right have been for years saying the Right must give up its stance on abortion or it will never get the women vote, its in fact still a major talking point about why women continue to vote blue.
But they are mature about even the issue they believe is literal child murder
This is literally the Leftie meme about centrism. "What if we only murder half of them." Its fucking murdering children, there is no maturity that should be had. Everyone involved should be lynched for their horrific sins, and its only because we live in a society that we even hesitate let alone negotiate with them.
RFK is in a position to do nothing regarding such a policy, and he literally describes a vision he prayed to receive from God as his life's mission to save children from disease and unhealthy living. Whatever his particular stance is on it, its unlikely to be the majority's.
And the same applies with Tulsi's position, but I'd absolutely reject a woman to lead anything like the position she is given. But I'm a minority in my own party regarding women's "rights."
I'm willing to compromise on more reasonable positions (safety, disease, etc the rare cases) to push my goals further (of which this is necessary to reach that further goal), but not willing to compromise on the issue as a whole.
You say: "I'm not changing my opinion on abortion." But that is not what I was talking about. It was about being welcoming to people who disagree, which you do, and which I pointed out the anti-abortion movement also does - as opposed to the Very Online Right, which makes heresy-hunting a hobby.
It was about being welcoming to people who disagree, which you do
I do, because my politics are extremes that I know cannot be accomplished without steps first. Years of being outcasted for misogyny and racism (before those became cool again) will make you willing to do so.
But many on the Right do not share that position and their principles make them single issue voters just as much as the Left. The "Very-Online" has different heresies it hunts (like saying anything remotely less than "Gas the Kikes 1488" in every thread), but plenty in real life also do.
Look at what happened to Dan Crenshaw overnight about his gun stance. That's the most common one, in fact that you can see makes up the majority of the Right even.
Cargo cult behavior right here. You’re repeating the form of an argument in a context that does not apply. Surprisingly low IQ shit, even for you. This is mostly something you see from the sub 85 demo.
There are foundational principles that must be observed in order for any ideology or movement to remain coherent. For leftists, it is worship of power, and this allows them to transform into anything at any time. For conservatives, one such principle is opposition to gold digging single motherhood. So holding a gold digging whore to the fixed principles of the movement is not a “purity spiral” or “friendly fire” or “crabs in a bucket”.
Same thing happened with Vivek. He said retarded shit that disqualified him from MAGA, because opposition pro replacement immigration is nonnegotiable, and yet we still had shills trying to play nice and smooth things over. Usually with the same stupid arguments you’ve deployed here.
If you excommunicate everyone who disagrees with you on one thing, then you're going to have a bad time.
Look at all the people like RFK Jr. and Tulsi whom Trump brought in, who among other things disagree with the 'conservative ideology' on abortion (as I do). Trump is OK with you if you join the train and don't actively sabotage the coalition, whereas these were thrown out by the Democrats for simple disagreement on some issues.
I'll be honest, right now there isn't much of a left TO attack, they're at that self inflicted suicide pact part of a death cult, at least politically..
We shouldn't attack each other but SHOULD just let grifters on the right side be ignored, we got time to restructure and build as the left flails about like headless chickens.
Yeah, well we have learned from our past mistakes of tolerating controlled opposition from within our ranks. Betrayal never comes from our enemies after all.
Because the right wants our perfect little Scotsman pure as the driven snow. Why the left is Ingsoc, filled with O'Brians just stepping on faces in service to power itself.
The right spends more effort attacking other people on the right than it does on the left.
Because most of us have actual principles we hold, unlike the Left which usually downloads them from whatever media they consume.
Which leaves us with compromising on principles we hold dear if we want to "maintain unity," at which point we don't have principles and are just hypocrites in doing so.
Its not an effective tactic, but its one that makes complete sense. Pro-life people aren't going to just "accept" abortion to keep allies with them, because to them its literal child murder.
No one's asking them to 'accept' abortion. But they are mature about even the issue they believe is literal child murder. Look at how they did not oppose Tulsi or RFK Jr.
Tulsi and RFK Jr. won't be in charge of anything abortion-related, and aren't out there advocating for abortion, and also haven't claimed to have had (or their significant others to have had) abortions.
Almost like it's a completely irrelevant opinion.
I agree. But that's my point. Pence's PAC tried to sink RFK by citing abortion. The abortion groups are more mature and tolerant of disagreement. I can definitely imagine a world where they would have said that no pro-abortion should be in the cabinet.
Imagine if Biden had nominated two genuine anti-abortions to positions, even ones that were irrelevant to hte opinion.
Lots of corners right have been for years saying the Right must give up its stance on abortion or it will never get the women vote, its in fact still a major talking point about why women continue to vote blue.
This is literally the Leftie meme about centrism. "What if we only murder half of them." Its fucking murdering children, there is no maturity that should be had. Everyone involved should be lynched for their horrific sins, and its only because we live in a society that we even hesitate let alone negotiate with them.
So you think RFK Jr. and Tulsi should have been rejected, or am I not getting you correctly?
RFK is in a position to do nothing regarding such a policy, and he literally describes a vision he prayed to receive from God as his life's mission to save children from disease and unhealthy living. Whatever his particular stance is on it, its unlikely to be the majority's.
And the same applies with Tulsi's position, but I'd absolutely reject a woman to lead anything like the position she is given. But I'm a minority in my own party regarding women's "rights."
I'm willing to compromise on more reasonable positions (safety, disease, etc the rare cases) to push my goals further (of which this is necessary to reach that further goal), but not willing to compromise on the issue as a whole.
I think we're talking past each other.
You say: "I'm not changing my opinion on abortion." But that is not what I was talking about. It was about being welcoming to people who disagree, which you do, and which I pointed out the anti-abortion movement also does - as opposed to the Very Online Right, which makes heresy-hunting a hobby.
I do, because my politics are extremes that I know cannot be accomplished without steps first. Years of being outcasted for misogyny and racism (before those became cool again) will make you willing to do so.
But many on the Right do not share that position and their principles make them single issue voters just as much as the Left. The "Very-Online" has different heresies it hunts (like saying anything remotely less than "Gas the Kikes 1488" in every thread), but plenty in real life also do.
Look at what happened to Dan Crenshaw overnight about his gun stance. That's the most common one, in fact that you can see makes up the majority of the Right even.
Because the Left is more organized at infiltrating the Right than the Right is at vetting/ filtering the infiltrators.
RINO's are very real and prevalent, but when have you heard of a DINO?
Didn't they call Sen. Kennedy a DINO? I know the term southern or midwestern blue to describe democrats who hold more traditional American values
It's a 'crabs in the bucket' thing.
Cargo cult behavior right here. You’re repeating the form of an argument in a context that does not apply. Surprisingly low IQ shit, even for you. This is mostly something you see from the sub 85 demo.
There are foundational principles that must be observed in order for any ideology or movement to remain coherent. For leftists, it is worship of power, and this allows them to transform into anything at any time. For conservatives, one such principle is opposition to gold digging single motherhood. So holding a gold digging whore to the fixed principles of the movement is not a “purity spiral” or “friendly fire” or “crabs in a bucket”.
Same thing happened with Vivek. He said retarded shit that disqualified him from MAGA, because opposition pro replacement immigration is nonnegotiable, and yet we still had shills trying to play nice and smooth things over. Usually with the same stupid arguments you’ve deployed here.
Let me say some more 'sub 85 retarded shit'.
If you excommunicate everyone who disagrees with you on one thing, then you're going to have a bad time.
Look at all the people like RFK Jr. and Tulsi whom Trump brought in, who among other things disagree with the 'conservative ideology' on abortion (as I do). Trump is OK with you if you join the train and don't actively sabotage the coalition, whereas these were thrown out by the Democrats for simple disagreement on some issues.
Nobody on the Right is envious of this yenta undermining our pro-family values.
Credit to you for consistently posting the most retarded shit, though.
No it isn't.
I'll be honest, right now there isn't much of a left TO attack, they're at that self inflicted suicide pact part of a death cult, at least politically..
We shouldn't attack each other but SHOULD just let grifters on the right side be ignored, we got time to restructure and build as the left flails about like headless chickens.
Yeah, well we have learned from our past mistakes of tolerating controlled opposition from within our ranks. Betrayal never comes from our enemies after all.
Because the right wants our perfect little Scotsman pure as the driven snow. Why the left is Ingsoc, filled with O'Brians just stepping on faces in service to power itself.