It was about being welcoming to people who disagree, which you do
I do, because my politics are extremes that I know cannot be accomplished without steps first. Years of being outcasted for misogyny and racism (before those became cool again) will make you willing to do so.
But many on the Right do not share that position and their principles make them single issue voters just as much as the Left. The "Very-Online" has different heresies it hunts (like saying anything remotely less than "Gas the Kikes 1488" in every thread), but plenty in real life also do.
Look at what happened to Dan Crenshaw overnight about his gun stance. That's the most common one, in fact that you can see makes up the majority of the Right even.
What racism? I've seen you talk about 'niggers', but never anything hateful.
But many on the Right do not share that position and their principles make them single issue voters just as much as the Left.
Sure. They may be single-issue voters, but I don't mean exactly that. I mean the kind of heresy-hunting idiocy that only gets in the way of accomplishing your goals.
Look at what happened to Dan Crenshaw overnight about his gun stance. That's the most common one, in fact that you can see makes up the majority of the Right even.
Eh, there are plenty of reasons to despise Crenshaw. As EU, I don't care that much about guns either way, but he's a RINO on so many other subjects - like war, social issues, that he is rightly called Eyepatch McCain.
If it's just guns, it's funny because his heresy is supporting ' red flag laws' (if I understand it correctly) which Trump also supported.
Unlike a lot of people around this sub, I don't feel the need to get daily praise by screaming how much I hate X group and reaffirming how much I totally hate it the most. But I can promise you its there, though the flame isn't seething because I escaped and live in an area with a rounding error low amount now.
I mean the kind of heresy-hunting idiocy that only gets in the way of accomplishing your goals.
You should come to more American churches then, its the pinnacle of Right-wing heresy hunting to shame and browbeat congregants into political positions. We talk about the Progressive pastors in the news a lot, but Southern churches especially are hives of a handful of 40 something women demanding you disown your daughter for her tattoo.
there are plenty of reasons to despise Crenshaw.
There are, but that was the one that started the flip. Remember before that he was a darling of T_D because that ghoul from SNL mocking him for losing an eye. It shot him from random politician to another MAGA face, before his red flag stance had him abandoned quick.
Which is a position you can come back from, but he continued to triple down and defend it with his ego until now he has basically no real love around him. Just a forgotten random Congress loser.
I haven't heard Trump supporting it, but he says a lot of shit that its hard to keep up. And, unlike Crenshaw, he doesn't seem to have ever pushed anything about it other than talking about it if he had. Which is one of his strengths, saying some wild shit and then acting based on the reaction.
But I can promise you its there, though the flame isn't seething because I escaped and live in an area with a rounding error low amount now.
So it's blacks. But it sounds to me like it's more of a reaction from the stuff that happens around you. It's different from Imp or the 'noticers' here who work themselves in a fever frenzy over things that they read online.
You should come to more American churches then, its the pinnacle of Right-wing heresy hunting to shame and browbeat congregants into political positions. We talk about the Progressive pastors in the news a lot, but Southern churches especially are hives of a handful of 40 something women demanding you disown your daughter for her tattoo.
Man, there is no escape from crazy, is there? And I say that as someone who despises tattoos...
There are, but that was the one that started the flip. Remember before that he was a darling of T_D because that ghoul from SNL mocking him for losing an eye. It shot him from random politician to another MAGA face, before his red flag stance had him abandoned quick.
I like them personally, but the MAGA people are a bit shifting in who they like and dislike. They hero-worshiped Mike Pence as that guy from Johnny Quest, only to turn on him when, let's be real, he didn't even do anything wrong - and if he did, Kamala Harris could have made herself president.
But I'm glad they turned on someone without him having criticized Trump, but on substantive positions at least. Also, the thing with Eyepatch McCain is that he gives you very little to like.
I haven't heard Trump supporting it, but he says a lot of shit that its hard to keep up.
But it sounds to me like it's more of a reaction from the stuff that happens around you. It's different from Imp or the 'noticers' here who work themselves in a fever frenzy over things that they read online.
Well I've never claimed otherwise. I grew up with them as a literal looming threat to everything in my life. And because my parents were junkies, that isn't metaphorically. There was always a real chance a random group of them would just be in my house, because drugs, breaking or stealing shit at any hour of the day.
But I think you can logically come to hate a group through seeing their works and actions even if you aren't directly experiencing it. It'll lack the same passion/soul but the damage is still damage even if its over there instead of right here.
Though my time in the MRA circles does agree with you that people who spend their day whining about it online fail to really grow any "principle" out of their hate. Its just mindlessly reactionary, which means they can't actually name an endgoal or often anything beyond memes. They let their emotional reaction run it all.
They hero-worshiped Mike Pence as that guy from Johnny Quest, only to turn on him when, let's be real, he didn't even do anything wrong
He didn't do anything to bring dislike upon him early on, and showed a lot of good appearances. But his final act was to protect the Establishment over Trump and the entire team that made him not a completely forgotten nobody of history. Considering Trump/T_D builds itself on being anti-The Establishment most of the time, turning on him is completely sensical even if you think it was the "right choice."
I guess he flooded the zone with MAGA is well.
Well he was retarded for that and I won't say otherwise. Though I will admit he gets a lot more leeway than Crenshaw because he brings a lot of positives to the table regardless and has way more power to effect change.
That's not me making excuses for it, its just I can name dozens of positions Trump has (and quite a few he flipped on too) whereas Eyepatch was known for just that at the time. It was his defining thing and it was bad, yet he kept tripling down on it. And because he had nothing else, he could be "discarded" while Trump might be the only chance for a lot of the fight to continue.
In the same way that most Trump supporters ignore his vaxx stances in 2020 too, yet lambast a lot of guys for similar.
I do, because my politics are extremes that I know cannot be accomplished without steps first. Years of being outcasted for misogyny and racism (before those became cool again) will make you willing to do so.
But many on the Right do not share that position and their principles make them single issue voters just as much as the Left. The "Very-Online" has different heresies it hunts (like saying anything remotely less than "Gas the Kikes 1488" in every thread), but plenty in real life also do.
Look at what happened to Dan Crenshaw overnight about his gun stance. That's the most common one, in fact that you can see makes up the majority of the Right even.
What racism? I've seen you talk about 'niggers', but never anything hateful.
Sure. They may be single-issue voters, but I don't mean exactly that. I mean the kind of heresy-hunting idiocy that only gets in the way of accomplishing your goals.
Eh, there are plenty of reasons to despise Crenshaw. As EU, I don't care that much about guns either way, but he's a RINO on so many other subjects - like war, social issues, that he is rightly called Eyepatch McCain.
If it's just guns, it's funny because his heresy is supporting ' red flag laws' (if I understand it correctly) which Trump also supported.
Unlike a lot of people around this sub, I don't feel the need to get daily praise by screaming how much I hate X group and reaffirming how much I totally hate it the most. But I can promise you its there, though the flame isn't seething because I escaped and live in an area with a rounding error low amount now.
You should come to more American churches then, its the pinnacle of Right-wing heresy hunting to shame and browbeat congregants into political positions. We talk about the Progressive pastors in the news a lot, but Southern churches especially are hives of a handful of 40 something women demanding you disown your daughter for her tattoo.
There are, but that was the one that started the flip. Remember before that he was a darling of T_D because that ghoul from SNL mocking him for losing an eye. It shot him from random politician to another MAGA face, before his red flag stance had him abandoned quick.
Which is a position you can come back from, but he continued to triple down and defend it with his ego until now he has basically no real love around him. Just a forgotten random Congress loser.
I haven't heard Trump supporting it, but he says a lot of shit that its hard to keep up. And, unlike Crenshaw, he doesn't seem to have ever pushed anything about it other than talking about it if he had. Which is one of his strengths, saying some wild shit and then acting based on the reaction.
So it's blacks. But it sounds to me like it's more of a reaction from the stuff that happens around you. It's different from Imp or the 'noticers' here who work themselves in a fever frenzy over things that they read online.
Man, there is no escape from crazy, is there? And I say that as someone who despises tattoos...
I like them personally, but the MAGA people are a bit shifting in who they like and dislike. They hero-worshiped Mike Pence as that guy from Johnny Quest, only to turn on him when, let's be real, he didn't even do anything wrong - and if he did, Kamala Harris could have made herself president.
But I'm glad they turned on someone without him having criticized Trump, but on substantive positions at least. Also, the thing with Eyepatch McCain is that he gives you very little to like.
I guess he flooded the zone with MAGA is well.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/05/trump-backs-red-flag-laws-could-impact-veterans-gun-ownership.html
Well I've never claimed otherwise. I grew up with them as a literal looming threat to everything in my life. And because my parents were junkies, that isn't metaphorically. There was always a real chance a random group of them would just be in my house, because drugs, breaking or stealing shit at any hour of the day.
But I think you can logically come to hate a group through seeing their works and actions even if you aren't directly experiencing it. It'll lack the same passion/soul but the damage is still damage even if its over there instead of right here.
Though my time in the MRA circles does agree with you that people who spend their day whining about it online fail to really grow any "principle" out of their hate. Its just mindlessly reactionary, which means they can't actually name an endgoal or often anything beyond memes. They let their emotional reaction run it all.
He didn't do anything to bring dislike upon him early on, and showed a lot of good appearances. But his final act was to protect the Establishment over Trump and the entire team that made him not a completely forgotten nobody of history. Considering Trump/T_D builds itself on being anti-The Establishment most of the time, turning on him is completely sensical even if you think it was the "right choice."
Well he was retarded for that and I won't say otherwise. Though I will admit he gets a lot more leeway than Crenshaw because he brings a lot of positives to the table regardless and has way more power to effect change.
That's not me making excuses for it, its just I can name dozens of positions Trump has (and quite a few he flipped on too) whereas Eyepatch was known for just that at the time. It was his defining thing and it was bad, yet he kept tripling down on it. And because he had nothing else, he could be "discarded" while Trump might be the only chance for a lot of the fight to continue.
In the same way that most Trump supporters ignore his vaxx stances in 2020 too, yet lambast a lot of guys for similar.