The New Queen of "Cuckservative" Movement EXPOSED!
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Well I've never claimed otherwise. I grew up with them as a literal looming threat to everything in my life. And because my parents were junkies, that isn't metaphorically. There was always a real chance a random group of them would just be in my house, because drugs, breaking or stealing shit at any hour of the day.
But I think you can logically come to hate a group through seeing their works and actions even if you aren't directly experiencing it. It'll lack the same passion/soul but the damage is still damage even if its over there instead of right here.
Though my time in the MRA circles does agree with you that people who spend their day whining about it online fail to really grow any "principle" out of their hate. Its just mindlessly reactionary, which means they can't actually name an endgoal or often anything beyond memes. They let their emotional reaction run it all.
He didn't do anything to bring dislike upon him early on, and showed a lot of good appearances. But his final act was to protect the Establishment over Trump and the entire team that made him not a completely forgotten nobody of history. Considering Trump/T_D builds itself on being anti-The Establishment most of the time, turning on him is completely sensical even if you think it was the "right choice."
Well he was retarded for that and I won't say otherwise. Though I will admit he gets a lot more leeway than Crenshaw because he brings a lot of positives to the table regardless and has way more power to effect change.
That's not me making excuses for it, its just I can name dozens of positions Trump has (and quite a few he flipped on too) whereas Eyepatch was known for just that at the time. It was his defining thing and it was bad, yet he kept tripling down on it. And because he had nothing else, he could be "discarded" while Trump might be the only chance for a lot of the fight to continue.
In the same way that most Trump supporters ignore his vaxx stances in 2020 too, yet lambast a lot of guys for similar.
You've seen some stuff. I knew parts of it, but that it's this bad?
You can... potentially. But you can also be in an echochamber where you are convinced that group X is bad because the echochamber is only posting bad things about them. Why do you think feminists hate men so much? It's because in their world, they focus on "bad things men do to women". Imp focuses on "bad things women do to men", and makes up a good number of conspiracies to bolster his hatred so that it's now self-sustaining.
That is the sense that I get from these Stormfags. They have no endgoal that they are willing to admit to.
It's one thing to go from being neutral to hating someone. But to worship someone for four years and then make him Public Enemy No. 1. I mean, you could wonder that maybe he had a point.
Mike Pence, of course, was a neocon. I'm not really a fan of him. And I don't like the establishment. But even Pence siding with the establishment can be the correct decision, if DJT is making unreasonable demands.
This does make sense. Crenshaw brings nothing to the table, and plenty of bad things. I just wonder about the logic of it. People say "I hate Crenshaw because of red flag laws". That doesn't make any sense - because that would apply to Trump. They don't say "I hate Crenshaw because of ... and because there is nothing to make up for it".
Yup.
I'm banned from talking about my childhood in the house, by both my wife and former roommates. If that tells you enough.
Well most people want to live off memes and injokes instead of actually grappling with the idea. They want to be part of the group, so they will just adopt surface level traits of it and then begin to virtue signal. You can't stop such retardation, the same way you can't uplift normies or savages.
But I think most people don't fall for echo chambers because of the strength of the echo, they fall for it because its what they wanted to hear. Imp wanted to hate women (for some personal reason I never found out) and so he built a case to do so, as do feminists who start out afraid of men (due to trauma or paranoia) and then build an ideology to make that seem "correct and normal."
And I've found most of the time, these echo chambers start by someone wanting to feel like a contrarian, a rebel, and a martyr. Most "racist" ideologies start that way online, by someone who feels cool saying Nigger/Faggot/Kike/etc. and gets off on people hating them. And from there they build an ideology to "justify" it.
I don't think its any different than being great friends with your brother's wife for years and then flipping on her when she cheats on him and a divorce happens. Major, image changing decisions can and should cause people to be treated with consequence.
In his case, it was to be discarded to the winds of history as a nobody and a snake.
Most people are smarter than given credit for, but they can't verbalize or conceptualize it. In fact, asking them to do so will often talk them into dumber spots.
So they by learned instinct recognize Crenshaw brings nothing to the table, and would be nothing without their support that made him more than a faceless Congresscritter, so they can turn on him on a dime. While Trump clearly is much harder to do so because they logically know his value, so he is given leeway.
Now those people should work to improve their ability to verbalize the logic for themselves, but again you can't uplift normies very much.