I'm going to pull a onetruephilosoraptor and stand on my soapbox here. "Don't throw flowers at new single mothers" is a hill to die on, and any influencer who attempts to take that hill for the other position needs to be thrown off it. If you heap praise on someone just because they had a baby regardless of the circumstances, you're destroying the family that everyone on the right claims is sacrosanct. You're legitimizing a baby as a shield for whore behavior, and you're encouraging women to unleash their hypergamy in the most naked and emboldened way possible.
I've seen this in the church where women will have babies out of wedlock and everyone will line up to congratulate them as if they were already married. The goal is to be loving, but all you accomplish is showing that the 7th commandment (don't commit adultery) is just for show. If people just get rewarded for wrongdoing, they're going to think it's right. That's all they can see.
This situation is even worse than that though. People are congratulating Ashley St. Claire merely because she didn't abort Elon's baby. So she didn't abort her meal ticket and now she deserves a medal? Amazing. And people like Lila Rose, Savannah Hernandez, and Elijah Schaefer have the GALL to call the dissenters pro-choice, un-Christian, and "barely human." So we're at "the conservative case for applauding the gold medalist in the gold digger Olympics" now?
If this chick is allowed to get away with this in any shape or form then the monogamous nuclear family will effectively be set on fire by MAGA Inc. If you're a girl, then just head out there and keep jumping on richer and richer dudes and as long as you get a baby out of it... you don't even need a ring!!
The goal is to be loving, but all you accomplish is showing that the 7th commandment is just for show.
The 7th commandment is "Do Not Commit Adultery" for heathens like me who had to look it up.
Another layer is that this literal attention whore couldn't help herself but to go on Twitter to broadcast her slatternly ways for updoots on Valentine's Day.
No one would give a shit about her and her IVF tism anchor baby if she could've just kept her lips and legs shut.
And Schaffer is a faggot here for both humblebragging that he knew Elon and this bitch were fucking all along and now gets to moralfag about it now that she put Elon on blast.
Another layer is that this literal attention whore couldn't help herself but to go on Twitter to broadcast her slatternly ways for updoots on Valentine's Day.
It's almost certain she saw Elon posting his family outing with the current Jewish gf and kids and went hard in the box wine.
The "legs shut" thing is mostly a slut shaming euphemism.
But artificial insemination and IVF harvesting and implantation are still done transvaginally, so the slur still works even as a technicality.
I haven't seen confirmation of the Artificial Insemination/IVF thing in St. Clair's case.
I'm not sure if all the whispers that "all his 13 kide are IVF" is the usual disinformation campaign or if there's some truth to it as a billionaire weirdo.
So she didn't abort her meal ticket and now she deserves a medal?
The fact that doing this shit results in a meal ticket is a problem, and I suspect a lot of tradcuck opposition to fixing the family courts is rooted in the worry that whores will abort more if they don't get cash and prizes for keeping it. As always holding the whore accountable is the furthest thing from their minds.
Everything today is reduced to a monetary value and commoditized. Elon must think he can sling his dick around because he can afford child support. That's not how it works. Elon has 13 kids and it's going to be interesting seeing how they turn out, which will undoubtably be fucked up to some degree. There's no way all these kids, from all these different women, are spending any consistent, quality time with him; and we've all seen the stats of children raised by single moms, even wealthy single moms. The facts are that money can't save kids; money can't substitute the influence of a father. The sour irony of having the worlds wealthiest man as your father and still being as disadvantaged as poor kids in the ghetto.
Elon needs to realise the mother can always get to him using his children. It doesnt matter how much child support he gives or can afford. If she doesnt like it, its that easy to poison them against him or trans them
I think the appropriate play here is to deny the whore the attention she seeks. She doesn't matter and I'm not going to spend any time or effort contemplating her situation.
You may be right. I just know that feeding women attention can act as encouragement, even if it is negative attention. I don't think the culture is currently in a position for shaming to yet be effective.
Some people exist to be a lesson to others. If your very public examples get forgiven(read rewarded) at the end of their "oops I slipped and fell on it" phase, then what lesson do you think is being taught?
You guys are barely even human and need to log off if you can’t even be kind to an enemy for once
Cuckservative. This is not some stupid company softball match. Our enemies in this case are descending us into a retarded islamic harem culture with rotten egg IVF babies. The stats on broken homes and single mothers are not magically fixed because they aren't on welfare in this one case.
When even the right worship feminism as a state religion, it is inevitable a corruption and degradation of conservative values and principles will happen.
Both Ashley & Milo are regulars on Tim Pool's podcast.
Tim's response to this eceleb drama will be fascinating to watch.
On the one hand, Milo always brings Tim big bucks whenever he's on. Milo (like Alex Jones) always brings eyes and engagement to the podcast. Leftist viewers especially skyrockets, hoping he'll say something scandalous.
On the other hand, Tim is desperate to bring in more female conservative guests... especially pretty ones (again; eyes and engagement). Ashley has a lot of Male Allies™ ready to be "one of the Good Ones" and defend the fair maiden, and the other female guests are likely to rally around poor sweet victim Ashley. Plus, Tim's close affiliation with Daily Wire is always "strained" when he invites Milo.
All that said, Milo has informed Tim that he now runs a business where he "takes down" shall we say Problematic™ conservatives on the behalf of powerful people... notably people in Trump's administration.
It's very likely that someone in Trump's inner circle knew of the Ashley situation and wanted to take some pre-emptive action to keep Elon focused on what has become Trump's most popular executive action (DoGE). If someone paid Milo to publish dirt he had on Ashley to put a wedge between her and Elon... mission fuckin' accomplished.
Again; his response to this drama will be... interesting.
On the one hand, Milo always brings Tim big bucks whenever he's on. Milo (like Alex Jones) always brings eyes and engagement to the podcast. Leftist viewers especially skyrockets, hoping he'll say something scandalous.
On the other hand, Tim is desperate to bring in more female conservative guests... especially pretty ones (again; eyes and engagement). Ashley has a lot of Male Allies™ ready to be "one of the Good Ones" and defend the fair maiden, and the other female guests are likely to rally around poor sweet victim Ashley. Plus, Tim's close affiliation with Daily Wire is always "strained" when he invites Milo.
This is legitimately a fascinating discussion, with many layers.
I also want to reiterate I don't care about these people at all, and are engaging on purely philosophical grounds. Ashley is cringe, and Elon seems to be doing good work so far, but I couldn't give less of a shit about his personal life. It also doesn't matter if this is true or false, if we're just talking about the issues and philosophy surrounding this "drama."
I have my own perspective, but I can see both sides. I personally think it's silly to "celebrate life," considering people have free will. A baby is all well and good, and, sure, that's 'better than abortion,' but that's a ridiculous standard, and a ridiculously low bar. Not meriting congratulations. "Congrats, you didn't murder your baby." That's a greeting card if I've ever seen one.
I don't get the Christian obsession with "life." Again, life is good. Baby, good. But, and I'm just going around in circles here I realize...free will. Why should a mother be congratulated for having a baby in unideal and avoidable circumstances? The alternative wasn't baby murder, it was not getting knocked up in the first place.
It would be like congratulating someone for robbing someone, but not murdering them. "Nice work, buddy. Sure, you made some poor choices, but you didn't go too far! Yeah, you were robbing that dude at knifepoint, but when he pulled a gun you ran, instead of stabbing him. Really nice work not stabbing him. CONGRATULATIONS!"
That said, I will deviate from the seeming consensus here, to say I think Elijah is mostly correct, at least in spirt. The main thing he gets wrong is the point I outlined above; the alternative wasn't abortion, "life" itself isn't something to be celebrated. Other than that, he correctly calls her out, calls her a phony, and all that. He just is coming from a false perspective, and a particular focus and bias. The second half of his Tweet is a bit deranged, though, I'll allow. Again, it just comes from his slightly twisted perspective, but I can't excuse him calling out anyone against this as "loving abortion." That's nonsense. I think he's largely correct though, just gets the actual conclusion wrong due to his biases. Many such cases.
Why should a mother be congratulated for having a baby in unideal and avoidable circumstances?
Because deep down we all know that if you don't give women praise and attention, she will do something drastic and evil. In this case they have boiled down the two choices to "celebrate life or she will kill the fucking baby." Most people on the Right don't consciously recognize this dichotomy but they can figure out which buttons to press to get the better outcome (like most men deal with women in general).
We live in modern society, with unchecked hypergamy and sexual liberation. Women will never stop having retarded unprotected sex in our lifetime. Shit half the Right wing is filled with divorced or single parents at this point, and they won't blame themselves. So the "ideal" solution is unfortunately miles down the road of many other landmark changes.
So if your principle is avoiding abortion, then celebrating life minimizes the amount of abortion being had even if it means uplifting slatternly sluts like this. We don't have the society capable of the ideal outcome, which is sufficiently shaming women enough to not get into these predicaments in the first place, so this is the option that stops abortion as much as possible.
I don't particularly agree with that stance, but its the one most Right/Christian normies seem to fall on.
I'm going to pull a onetruephilosoraptor and stand on my soapbox here. "Don't throw flowers at new single mothers" is a hill to die on, and any influencer who attempts to take that hill for the other position needs to be thrown off it. If you heap praise on someone just because they had a baby regardless of the circumstances, you're destroying the family that everyone on the right claims is sacrosanct. You're legitimizing a baby as a shield for whore behavior, and you're encouraging women to unleash their hypergamy in the most naked and emboldened way possible.
I've seen this in the church where women will have babies out of wedlock and everyone will line up to congratulate them as if they were already married. The goal is to be loving, but all you accomplish is showing that the 7th commandment (don't commit adultery) is just for show. If people just get rewarded for wrongdoing, they're going to think it's right. That's all they can see.
This situation is even worse than that though. People are congratulating Ashley St. Claire merely because she didn't abort Elon's baby. So she didn't abort her meal ticket and now she deserves a medal? Amazing. And people like Lila Rose, Savannah Hernandez, and Elijah Schaefer have the GALL to call the dissenters pro-choice, un-Christian, and "barely human." So we're at "the conservative case for applauding the gold medalist in the gold digger Olympics" now?
If this chick is allowed to get away with this in any shape or form then the monogamous nuclear family will effectively be set on fire by MAGA Inc. If you're a girl, then just head out there and keep jumping on richer and richer dudes and as long as you get a baby out of it... you don't even need a ring!!
Out and out polygamy. Disgusting.
The 7th commandment is "Do Not Commit Adultery" for heathens like me who had to look it up.
Another layer is that this literal attention whore couldn't help herself but to go on Twitter to broadcast her slatternly ways for updoots on Valentine's Day.
No one would give a shit about her and her IVF tism anchor baby if she could've just kept her lips and legs shut.
And Schaffer is a faggot here for both humblebragging that he knew Elon and this bitch were fucking all along and now gets to moralfag about it now that she put Elon on blast.
Sorry, I'll add that lol.
It's almost certain she saw Elon posting his family outing with the current Jewish gf and kids and went hard in the box wine.
Much trad, very wholesome.
Wait, I'm confused.
Isn't that a bit contradictory? IVF would be intentional, so legs open/shut status would be meaningless to the outcome.
Is there any mention of IVF? Because that would certainly make this story even weirder.
I'm not sure it's true yet, personally, but Elon is definitely a weirdo. That's true regardless of this particular case.
The "legs shut" thing is mostly a slut shaming euphemism.
But artificial insemination and IVF harvesting and implantation are still done transvaginally, so the slur still works even as a technicality.
I haven't seen confirmation of the Artificial Insemination/IVF thing in St. Clair's case.
I'm not sure if all the whispers that "all his 13 kide are IVF" is the usual disinformation campaign or if there's some truth to it as a billionaire weirdo.
The fact that doing this shit results in a meal ticket is a problem, and I suspect a lot of tradcuck opposition to fixing the family courts is rooted in the worry that whores will abort more if they don't get cash and prizes for keeping it. As always holding the whore accountable is the furthest thing from their minds.
Terrorism is hard. You have to really close your mind. It's not easy.
Everything today is reduced to a monetary value and commoditized. Elon must think he can sling his dick around because he can afford child support. That's not how it works. Elon has 13 kids and it's going to be interesting seeing how they turn out, which will undoubtably be fucked up to some degree. There's no way all these kids, from all these different women, are spending any consistent, quality time with him; and we've all seen the stats of children raised by single moms, even wealthy single moms. The facts are that money can't save kids; money can't substitute the influence of a father. The sour irony of having the worlds wealthiest man as your father and still being as disadvantaged as poor kids in the ghetto.
Elon needs to realise the mother can always get to him using his children. It doesnt matter how much child support he gives or can afford. If she doesnt like it, its that easy to poison them against him or trans them
One has already been "transed," Xavier, now "Vivian." I think he really might be a woman, though.
"She" claims to want "nothing to do with him" yet keeps talking shit about him for headlines, like a bitch.
Yah it proves you shouldn’t just make babies with anyone. Elon dated amber heard so his judgement in women is already sus
He needs to make less babies and doge harder
LOL, really? So next to Grimes and St. Clair, his type is "Crazy White Bitch."
Or maybe these women know he's an easy mark? Elon needs male friends to look out for him.
I think the appropriate play here is to deny the whore the attention she seeks. She doesn't matter and I'm not going to spend any time or effort contemplating her situation.
As far as the RW ecosystem goes, the appropriate play is shaming. You let cancer grow, you get more of it that way too.
You may be right. I just know that feeding women attention can act as encouragement, even if it is negative attention. I don't think the culture is currently in a position for shaming to yet be effective.
I don't think shaming from men works on women, because there's always desperate losers.
Shaming from women and exclusion from social standing does work, however.
Some people exist to be a lesson to others. If your very public examples get forgiven(read rewarded) at the end of their "oops I slipped and fell on it" phase, then what lesson do you think is being taught?
Cuckservative. This is not some stupid company softball match. Our enemies in this case are descending us into a retarded islamic harem culture with rotten egg IVF babies. The stats on broken homes and single mothers are not magically fixed because they aren't on welfare in this one case.
L take from Elijah there.
"If you want to be pro-life, you can't shame and mock Jewish e-whores"
When even the right worship feminism as a state religion, it is inevitable a corruption and degradation of conservative values and principles will happen.
Considering Elijah got fired from the Blaze for groping Sara Gonzales maybe he should sit this one out.
Both Ashley & Milo are regulars on Tim Pool's podcast.
Tim's response to this eceleb drama will be fascinating to watch.
On the one hand, Milo always brings Tim big bucks whenever he's on. Milo (like Alex Jones) always brings eyes and engagement to the podcast. Leftist viewers especially skyrockets, hoping he'll say something scandalous.
On the other hand, Tim is desperate to bring in more female conservative guests... especially pretty ones (again; eyes and engagement). Ashley has a lot of Male Allies™ ready to be "one of the Good Ones" and defend the fair maiden, and the other female guests are likely to rally around poor sweet victim Ashley. Plus, Tim's close affiliation with Daily Wire is always "strained" when he invites Milo.
All that said, Milo has informed Tim that he now runs a business where he "takes down" shall we say Problematic™ conservatives on the behalf of powerful people... notably people in Trump's administration.
It's very likely that someone in Trump's inner circle knew of the Ashley situation and wanted to take some pre-emptive action to keep Elon focused on what has become Trump's most popular executive action (DoGE). If someone paid Milo to publish dirt he had on Ashley to put a wedge between her and Elon... mission fuckin' accomplished.
Again; his response to this drama will be... interesting.
The only solution is THUNDERBALL
Who exactly is ''celebrating'' her?
I don't know her and don't care.
Pick one.
This is legitimately a fascinating discussion, with many layers.
I also want to reiterate I don't care about these people at all, and are engaging on purely philosophical grounds. Ashley is cringe, and Elon seems to be doing good work so far, but I couldn't give less of a shit about his personal life. It also doesn't matter if this is true or false, if we're just talking about the issues and philosophy surrounding this "drama."
I have my own perspective, but I can see both sides. I personally think it's silly to "celebrate life," considering people have free will. A baby is all well and good, and, sure, that's 'better than abortion,' but that's a ridiculous standard, and a ridiculously low bar. Not meriting congratulations. "Congrats, you didn't murder your baby." That's a greeting card if I've ever seen one.
I don't get the Christian obsession with "life." Again, life is good. Baby, good. But, and I'm just going around in circles here I realize...free will. Why should a mother be congratulated for having a baby in unideal and avoidable circumstances? The alternative wasn't baby murder, it was not getting knocked up in the first place.
It would be like congratulating someone for robbing someone, but not murdering them. "Nice work, buddy. Sure, you made some poor choices, but you didn't go too far! Yeah, you were robbing that dude at knifepoint, but when he pulled a gun you ran, instead of stabbing him. Really nice work not stabbing him. CONGRATULATIONS!"
That said, I will deviate from the seeming consensus here, to say I think Elijah is mostly correct, at least in spirt. The main thing he gets wrong is the point I outlined above; the alternative wasn't abortion, "life" itself isn't something to be celebrated. Other than that, he correctly calls her out, calls her a phony, and all that. He just is coming from a false perspective, and a particular focus and bias. The second half of his Tweet is a bit deranged, though, I'll allow. Again, it just comes from his slightly twisted perspective, but I can't excuse him calling out anyone against this as "loving abortion." That's nonsense. I think he's largely correct though, just gets the actual conclusion wrong due to his biases. Many such cases.
Because deep down we all know that if you don't give women praise and attention, she will do something drastic and evil. In this case they have boiled down the two choices to "celebrate life or she will kill the fucking baby." Most people on the Right don't consciously recognize this dichotomy but they can figure out which buttons to press to get the better outcome (like most men deal with women in general).
We live in modern society, with unchecked hypergamy and sexual liberation. Women will never stop having retarded unprotected sex in our lifetime. Shit half the Right wing is filled with divorced or single parents at this point, and they won't blame themselves. So the "ideal" solution is unfortunately miles down the road of many other landmark changes.
So if your principle is avoiding abortion, then celebrating life minimizes the amount of abortion being had even if it means uplifting slatternly sluts like this. We don't have the society capable of the ideal outcome, which is sufficiently shaming women enough to not get into these predicaments in the first place, so this is the option that stops abortion as much as possible.
I don't particularly agree with that stance, but its the one most Right/Christian normies seem to fall on.
I remember when he was paid for a doxxing link to give out to his followers.