Sorry to be the barer of bad news but Trump really isn't on our side.
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I wish people would stop dooming, though. Trump was never perfect (and, no, I'm not a fan of many of his picks, and they definitely are disappointing), but the alternative was Kamala Harris, which was inarguably much, much worse. A Trump win is a win for us. Perhaps not as big of a win as we would like, but Trump will improve a lot of things, even if he's not perfect.
I do wish he'd learned more of a lesson and, not that everything is about Israel, but it's very disappointing that he even said some critical stuff about them...and then immediately filled his cabinet with a bunch of Grade A, first class Zionists.
It's probably cope at this point, and these people obviously shouldn't be in these positions (especially in regards to foreign policy), but I hope he at least keeps these people in line.
A bit of hope...this dude had fucking Bolton as National Security Advisor, and still didn't start any new wars. There's hope for anyone who can do that. It's the Democrats who are currently trying to realize Bolton's dreams, and not the dude who literally hired him.
TL;DR: Trump has made some bad moves, but Trust the Plan. Yes, that's tongue in cheek, but I do think Trump's heart is in the right place, and that does count for a lot. His first term was great, although not perfect. He had a bunch of scum all around him then, too, and still, at the very least, Made America Better. He'll do it again this time. Hopefully.
At least Trump does seem to actually like America.
Yup. He's a bright guy, but damn near clueless on some issues...but he does seem to love and respect the good ol' US of A.
Which is incredibly rare for a politician.
That's the thing. I believe what I'm seeing when he stares at the Stars and Stripes. I also believe that Trump believes that America is exceptional and that it can break if things are taken too far. Trump respects limits and might cut away some of the disease and make space for America to heal.
Harris was the makeup on one of the faces of a globalist hydra. I can't trust that hydra to do anything more than thrash and bite and devour what's left.
Reagan also seems that way but he laid the groundwork for the evil we have now.
That's all it is, theater.
The issue is the current America is a jewed out faggy corporate zone with no soul. And you rightly pointed out that trump likes that.
Nooooo, don't you understand? If he's not personally firing up the ovens then he's obviously just another puppet to the world powers! He's going to do door-to-door and shoot everyones dog, steal all their Christmas presents, and shit in their covfefe machines!
🙄
He will ofc drink the covfefe first because that's a lot of machines to shit in so he's going to need all the throughput assistance he can.
Financial guest on Jimmy Dore explained that this Soros guy was on his money side not the political side.
Basically Soros hires people who are good at the job to make him money regardless of whether he likes them, and finds morons that can't do the job for DAs and politicians.
I didn't look into this myself, but it doesn't sound like he's a terrible pick as far as money-men go.
And considering Dore's so quick to call out a bunch of that nonsense, that's a pretty good sign if one of his guests was saying this guy was fine.
I still wish Trump wasn't surrounding himself with such questionable people, but it is true that some of these people aren't as bad as they seem on the surface. Or at least have other redeeming features too.
The biggest thing is staying out of the military. Don't let "based gigachad" Petey lure you or anyone you know in.
I've listened to this guy in a couple of interviews, and he honestly sounds very reasonable. He's either genuine, or he's a damn good liar.
The thing is, almost none of these WEF types are good liars because they're so fucking brainwashed that they cannot help out themselves. I'm hopeful that this guy was just some investor who happened to be working for one of the worst people in the history of the planet before it became extremely obvious that he was one of the worst people in the history of the planet.
Anyone who's ever looked at Trump as more than a step in the right direction, instead of the whole hog, is too stupid to be voting to begin with. Like, his policies are barely different from when he was a Dem in the 90s, why are you expecting the Turner Diaries?
These doom posts really feel less like a knock against him, and more like revealing your own naivety.
Trump's treasury pick is also a big donor and economic advisor for Trump, is a guy who worked for George Soros for 24 years and is also an open faggot.
I guess we'll have to assume half of your posts shitting up the feed are going to be groyper tears until Trump is done with his second term.
I looked at the thread title and knew it was him or OTP before I checked the username.
I think OTP is a big fan of Trump now, and thinks he's knocking it out of the park with his appointments.
Hey, you're right. He posted something positive a few hours ago. Right on.
My alt is spitting facts lmao
YOU aren't on "our side". You're a leftist, by your own words you have repeatedly advocated socialism and simped for leftist dictators.
You aren't right wing. Did you mean to post this on the faggot fed board or is this yet another attempt at forum sliding, trying to create the false perception that you conpro goblin cucks are actually not immigrants here?
We aren't falling for it. Deport yourself.
you are jewish
I didn't used to like this response, but it's kind of funny now. If all he can say is "you're a leftist," then calling him a Jew, falsely or correctly, is at least funny. And just as much of an argument.
It's just his projection, basic Alinsky tactics. He comes into every thread on this board like Imp sperging about ConPro and whites.
Which, weirdly, is also something Imp does.
I wish he'd stuck with women. He was still insane, but there was a kernel of truth.
When Imp sided with the trannies on that issue, and then started shitting on "stormfags" and shilling for Israel on the other issue...yeah. He lost what little credibility he had.
"Imp vs women" was occasionally amusing, and occasionally ran into the truth on the way to insanity. "Imp vs women and stormfags, and in defense of trannies, porn, and Israel"...is just weird.
I ran into TheImp earlier on T_D shilling for Israel and then lamenting Daniel Penny's acquittal. His ability to take the wrong side on everything that isn't "the video game studios with lots of women make shit games" (that he often buys anyway like Starfield) is legendary.
"you are jewish" is such a brilliantly effective narrative battering ram that I would put it into the memetic weapon category along with "its ok to be White"
I sometimes feel an urge to make a chapter-length effort-post analyzing it but I don't know if having that out there will blunt its effectiveness, which IMO matters even on a small-ball forum that nobody reads like this one
I'm not inclined to agree. "It's okay to be white" works because it's blatantly true, and the opposition to it proves the underlying point. "You're a Jew" isn't inherently true, and can easily backfire. I just said it was funny.
If you want to convince me otherwise, I am curious though. Doesn't have to be the full write up, and you can DM me if you want to keep it lowkey, but I am curious what makes it brilliant.
You could classify it alongside "Islam is right about women" where the text and the subtext are in opposition so it requires some prior knowledge of the meta, while for "it's okay to be white" the text and the subtext are in alignment.
How exactly is correctly identifying someone who is ideologically opposed to the userbase of this site, and thus is disingenuously shilling by this pointless thread, equal to "you're (ethnic group)".
Explain your logic. Ideology is actually important, and ideology is a choice. This thread, is quite literally, a leftist pretending to be right wing. He says "trump isn't on OUR side" when HE is not on our side. He is not right wing. He opposes ideologically the core of this board's movement, and the core userbase of this site. It is "hello fellow whites". These goons act like the stereotype they claim to fight.
Not exactly what I said. Again: Reading comprehension. You're so far up your own ass, and so far inside your own head/reality, that you just hear what you want to hear.
You didn't make an argument, you just called him a leftist. You didn't "correctly identify" anything. You called someone a leftist. Someone called you a Jew. The Jew thing gets a reaction and is thus sort of funny. The "leftist" smear is stupid propaganda popularized by disingenuous faggots, and then driven into the ground.
Again, you didn't identify shit, you made a tired smear. Also...let the userbase of the site decide that? LOL.
And the top post is me saying OP is mostly wrong. What's your point? We're not a monolith. We never were. And we appreciate free speech. We've had people posting unpopular opinions since the very start. OP is mostly wrong. I said that, and "the userbase" seemed to agree with me. And they don't seem to agree with your particular brand of...whatever.
I like how you're doing everything you accuse others of doing. Even if what you said was true, and he's a leftist...GG was not initially explicitly right wing. I'd argue it did become that, and we certainly have more right and right-leaning people here. Again, GG has always been about free speech; it tolerates left and right...which is probably why it drifted more right over the years. Your nonsense is gay, and hypocritical.
No. You do that.
An ideology is a choice. An ethnic background is an inherent characteristic. Those are not equivalent.
Leftist is not an arbitrary term. The political scale, despite decades of propaganda aimed at muddying the waters, is not a vague or arbitrary thing. I have replied to this goon recently when he's explicitly advocated for socialism and posted "simp for hitler" garbage. That is leftist. He has chosen to follow ideology that directly opposes the right, and his entire pretense that he was ever remotely on the same side as the people that support Trump is false. Pretending that he is of the same "side" as trump supporters so he can consensus crack, is the same tactic as the "hello fellow whites" shit some leftist jews do. It is the exact same shit with a different paintjob.
This site, KIA2 on the .win, is explicitly the offshoot that came about because the right was pushed off reddit. We're on a subforum of the donald's site. It is a right wing site. And frankly, the pretense that gamergate ever had even a significant (>25%) percentage of leftists was always ridiculous. We had some confused "left libertarians" that trended towards being actual libertarians, but we were never close to even on the left / right split. People attempted to play moderate for optics, because some people still thought that ethics and honesty weren't partisan values.
Beat me to it.
Says the goblin. You act like the caricature you claim to hate. Your post reads in the exact same voice as the "you're a fucking white male reeeeee" from your ideological cousins.
Weak.
the big difference is that the people who reee about jews just want jews to leave us alone. Whereas the people who reee about White people, never want to leave White people alone.
And want to live in white areas. Antisemites don't want to go live in Israel, and a good chunk of them would be fine with Israel, if they weren't doing shady shit all the time.
We both know that isn't true. You fags don't want to be left alone, you constantly invade right wing gatherings and try to shit them up, you fed-op immigrants. You demand authoritarian leftist government, nearly indistinguishable from the other color of racial collectivists except not turned against us. You are either a retarded true believer, a genuine useful idiot or a lying goblin.
Your idol, the degenerate faggot that led germany to absolute ruin, did not "just want to be left alone" he declared global conquest and picked a fight with everyone - because he was just another communist goblin that can't tolerate competing ideologies existing.
If you just wanted to be left alone (and weren't some brown hotpocket collector in a fed or shareblue shitpost center) you'd go back to whatever eurocuck nation you claim to belong to and post on their sites, not be shitting up US forums pushing socialist cuckery.
As Kieman said. Antisemites don't want to live in israel. But jews want to live in White countries for some reason.
Leftists always want to corrupt, steal and destroy. They can never leave free people alone. You and I both know (but you will ignore any and all arguments and reply with pithy pointless lines like this) that is neither only nor all jews. In fact you and your ilk do the same shit. No communist, regardless of ethnic background, can leave free or prosperous nations alone. They are pathologically driven to ruin them.
The actually populous anti-semites, (the arab countries) would see israel cease to exist - they do, in fact, want to live in the land Israel is on. Your empty one liner is wrong. Go "hello fellow whites" somewhere else, fake.
Read the actual memoirs penned by his generals. Germany did everything possible to avoid war.
This is so blatantly, retardedly false that you may as well point at the sun and call it black. Hitler's own speeches and actions contradict you.
If you're going to spout pure unfiltered bullshit in my direction don't even bother.
im not the one who surrounds myself with George Soros' gay proteges.
*Sigh*
Get a new smear. One that's less retarded.
Take a fucking chill pill. Or at least get an argument.
He's been here significantly longer than you have...
Like, from near the start. You accuse him of being a leftist, while just making nonsensical "arguments" and appeals to emotion. Also, doing the equivalent of going "well, actually, you're an immigrant for coming over on the Mayflower." Sure, you've been here from the very start, but you're actually just like the illegal immigrants!
I've been "here" since before this site existed. Don't "muh account age" at me.
He is an immigrant to this movement. He is a self-admitted socialist. He advocates for authoritarian leftist policy and simps for hitler. That IS leftist, undeniably. I cited his OWN statements and beliefs.
The conpro brigading fucks have no ties to gamergate. They are immigrants, tourists, brigaders, what have you. You know this. We all know this.
You mean the normal posters here who are tired of getting spammed by disingenuous faggots who do nothing but attempt to derail the board?
He LITERALLY is a wehraboo. And you acknowledge that the conpro fags show up in droves in brigading actions, not because they naturally belong here. They are invaders who shit this board up. 90% of the time I see some complete retard trying to do "hello fellow whites DAE think maybe socialism based" shit conpro is in their post history. They have no relation to this board's origin or topic.
Pushing socialism, wehraboo bullshit, racial collectivism, leftist ideology, is attempting to subvert and destroy this board. It is a fed psyop, they pull textbook forum manipulation tactics. These fags have NEVER BEEN right wing, and this entire site exists because deranged TDS faggots and pedo admins censored the right off reddit. Anyone pushing that degeneracy here is just repeating the same tired smearing and subversion schtick feds have been doing to right wing groups for DECADES.
You admit I'm right but still post in their defense because "you say the same things repeatedly, weeeeeehhhhhh". Yes, I do. I'm ideologically consistent. You would prefer that the few people that still care about the original board just NOT reply, let the place become 100% conpro spam? I shouldn't state the truth?
Now you say countering wehraboo bullshit is annoying, so we're WORSE than the actual invading group. "Oh sure the left is wrong but you're just as bad for being mean." Well doesn't that line seem familiar.
You're on a site that exists because of the don, I'm going to mock you if you echo "but mean tweets" sentiments.
This board is very nearly dead because we have no advertising, no possibility for organic growth and a mod who doesn't give enough of a fuck to clean the floors. But the shambling corpse still doesn't deserve to be turned into another vehicle for "see the right is actually nazis" propaganda.
You're the one who opened the door, dumbass.
You called u/yoisi an immigrant, when he's been posting here years longer than you have.
Generally, generally, when you're talking about "forum sliding," you're talking about, you know, the forum. I don't care about your perspective on "the movement," there's a better argument that you're "forum sliding" than that he is, considering how much longer he's been here.
He was posting here before "conpro" was a thing.
There's like three or four of you who are extremely obsessed. That's by definition not "normal." And, no, not saying that's right or wrong, just that you'd think the normal people would be a few more than like three posters.
I acknowledged no such thing, did I? Which calls into question all your other comments about how people are "self admitted XYZs."
No, I didn't, and again that calls everything into question. I said my point wasn't that you were wrong, and that they had some saboteurs and retards in their ranks, and that they piss me off too.
I never said "damn, you're so right, man." You're hearing what you want to hear.
I, and many others, am the people who have been here from the start. You and your fellow weirdos have called me all sorts of names and said I don't belong, while saying what this board should be, to people who have been here longer. You're everything you claim to oppose. Trite, but true.
Uh. The invading group that preexists you. Well, doesn't that line sounds familiar?
Not what I was saying. Reading comprehension, please.
Fair enough. Now show me where I did that. I have no problem with "mean tweets." I have problems with retards.
And since u/yoisi is our alt, it means we have all been here longer than the jew has.
"You're worse because you're mean".
My posting on KIA predates the existence of kia2 or the .win domain entirely. I already told you this and you insist on "muh account age" as if that has more connection than actual history or understanding of how this board came to exist. I don't keep track of accounts as if they fucking matter. You do know what got this board to exist in the first place? There is not a single account on this site that can be cited to even half the number of years I've been in this community. I've been here since the original story broke before the term gamergate was even coined. I have every right to call out someone posting blatant "hello fellow x" bullshit, in the most basic forum manipulation way. I don't shit on Yoisi every time he posts anything, I usually skip over it, but this post is fucking GARBAGE of the most obvious and retarded kind.
Nobody genuinely interacting with the community with an interest in the actual topics this board is supposed to be about would make this thread. It is shill bullshit as obvious as Jussie Smollet. I thought he was a retard before, but this post has made me stop considering that there is even a possibility he is a real human poster, and not a goblin manipulator.
Who are you identifying as my fellows, here? Anyone that hates leftist false flag wearing goons? That's a very broad group. There are people on this board that I disagree with fundamentally on a number of things that also shit on the "nazis are totally right wing guys" crowd. The last time I remember saying anything hostile to you was calling your meta threads gay. I don't recall seeing you post wehraboo bullshit, and that's the kind of thing that I'm entirely sick of and will get me to pick a fight.
I asked you to prove it, and you just said it again. Whatever.
Same here. And same for yoisi. I don't really get the point. You've both been around. He's been around here longer. You can't really call him a forum slider and an immigrant when he's been here since the beginning. That's all I'm saying. You can disagree with him, of course. And, again, I did. The top comment in this thread is me saying he's mostly wrong, as I mentioned. But saying he's an immigrant is silly.
Or me. So what? I don't try to claim to be able to decide what viewpoints are or are not allowed.
Says you. Again, I said he was wrong. But there's plenty of people with different opinions. And Trump has made bad picks. Heck, had a bunch of people shilling against Trump before the election, who are now shilling for Trump and his picks. I think that's pretty retarded too. But I'm not going to say they don't belong here. We're a diverse group of people, and we have our retards. If you think yoisi is one of them, that's your right. Doesn't mean he's an "immigrant."
THE JEWSSSS!
No. I thought I was pretty clear; two or three other posters here, who are equally obsessed and who I find obnoxious on this topic. I won't name names, because I'm not arguing with them at this point, I'm arguing with you. But, yeah, who I'm "identifying" is less than a handful of users. As I said. I was pretty clear.
Which they are. No argument here. Meta threads are gay.
Fair enough. And I don't really. Which doesn't keep some lunatics from calling me a Nazi, though.
This thread is extraordinarily obviously not in good faith. Look up concern trolling, consensus cracking, that old document that used to make the rounds about the tactics used by forum manipulators that cites this kind of shit.
Yoisi is a socialist. This isn't an insult or a smear, this is something he has actually posted. It is FACT. He was never a trump supporter or ideologically aligned with trump supporters. This thread built on that false pretense is a textbook concern troll. That kind of completely disingenuous, manipulative behavior (that matches the same stereotype they claim is jews, when it is actually leftist behavior patterns) is intolerable. If someone does this kind of sociopathic shit even once, it makes it incredibly obvious that they are not a real human here to engage in genuine conversation.
The wehraboo bullshit is obnoxious when there's the small possibility it's actually genuine, but when someone posts something like this thread? Shilling on that level makes them inherently not part of the community, makes it imnediately obvious that they never were. If someone isn't here to engage in good faith discussion, but to try to manipulate, they deserve nothing but contempt.
Wrt you being annoyed by people calling out werhaboos-
You can't seriously blame people for being tired of forum sliding bullshit from the usual suspects, and if you do not actively oppose that bullshit they achieve their strategic goals. If they didn't post completely retarded nonsense I wouldn't have to counter it. And if nobody does blast them when they show up, eventually the place is drowned in it, and they succeed in at least two of their goals for doing this - to kill activity of dissenting groups, and to create the perception to outsiders that those groups are actually retarded lunatics. The association of neonazis to the right has been an ongoing propaganda campaign for decades, but it has no actual basis in reality. The vast majority of wehraboo shitposting is not real people engaging in good faith.
Name calling. Very bitchy feminine behavior.
They do come from a matriachal culture after all.
"Mean tweets wahhhhh"
False flagging "hello fellow right wing" goons do not get respect. This thing is using the most textbook forum manipulation technique here, in an extremely obvious and pathetic way. If it wants me to treat it like a person it can engage in honest discussion, not act exactly like the leftist jew caricature it's ilk claims to fight.