Imagine a world where the owners of an IP actually appealed to the fans of the IP. I know sometimes you can expand your customer base with certain products but certainly not when you try to do it at the expense of loyal customers.
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If Disney had a few braincells left (and that's REALLY up for debate) The Acolyte hopefully served as their 'all in on leftism' example where they didn't hold back so they could go 'well, you make use no money whatsoever so why bother listening to you?'
Compare that with Deadpool and Wolverine, they KNOW the winning formula and they can easily make a Gambit and Wesley Snipes Blade films for massive money if they basically follow what Ryan Reynolds does instead of Kathleen Kennedy.
The question is: can they even ditch the woke shit or has the rot reached too much of the head of the snake?
Personally I hope they continue down this path and crash and burn.
No, they literally cannot. Because the woke shit is now important canon in the story. So even if they change course, the woke shit will still require being acknowledged and worked with in every future property.
To retcon it, would require a full admission of wrong doing (something these companies will never do) and a massive PR backlash from the people who control social media (making it seem far more powerful and deadly than it is). Which is the only actual option for course correction.
Stories don't matter. They can do ANYTHING with the story.
The problem are the people at Disney. When everyone at Disney is woke there's nobody left to turn things around. There's nobody who could write better stories. There's nobody who could hire people who'd write better stories. There's nobody who could hire better HR. There's nobody to appoint better management.
In Canadian universities they hire DEI candidates and then they force everyone to lie and say she was hired off merit.
this same brainwashing is probably happening at Disney.
This is Star Wars, the fans they "betrayed" literally created the modern version of the obsessive fanbase that catalogues and cares far too much about every minute detail of canon.
That's the people they would be trying to get back by removing the woke shit, which means the story does matter more than anything else.
Even with a course correction, I don’t think the OG fans would trust them. Disney squandered the last chance to bring all three original characters back together. Star Wars is dead and needs to be buried, not paraded around like a corpse puppet on strings.
That's they're biggest crime innthe end.
Stories are immortal and IP laws are fake and gay. Star Wars will always live on due to those facts.
But the big three reuniting is an opportunity that HAS been squandered forever with no possible recourse. That chance is gone forever.
And why? Because it would have been "derivative" too "expected".
Well quite. I got married recently, but I plan to never have sex with my wife cause that'd be too cliche.
We can't make people happy, that's WAY to obvious.
all they had to do was make the thrawn trilogy. they could have easily added some younguns to the cast to set them up for the future.
To be fair, that also sounds retarded and awful in its own way. Not everything needs to be time travel and multiverse stuff. Most stories are better off without it. Hell, even the medium famous for it (superhero comics) would probably be better off if it was used a lot more sparingly and more consequentially (although the "internal consistency" and "consequences" issues with superhero comics are basically a hole with no bottom at this point. Overuse of the multiverse and time travel is hardly their only issue). Star Wars of all things is not a property that time travel and parallel universes belong in.
Also, Ahsoka is a fun character but she does not need to be in literally every Star Wars plotline.
It's still a step up from the sequels, but that's hardly a high bar.
I remember thinking after the massive positive reaction that Luke’s appearance at the end of Mando season 2 that it was the perfect time to retcon stuff. I’m a huge fan of the expanded universe and thought it was dumb to just wipe it out instead of continuing it in its own continuity. I remember someone tried to get me to watch Ashoka saying the have elements of Heir to the Empire. I would just rather see an adaptation of it than Disney’s bastardized version.
I’ve heard that Favreau hated TLJ
Ryan Reynolds had to trick Disney to keep as much woke shit out of of DP&W as possible.
He even filmed scenes with both She-hulk and Captain Marvel on purpose, just to completely toss them in post.
Either way, mass firings need to happen
They can burn to the ground
Or purge and orientate themselves to follow the example of the recently successful film and give audiences what they WANT.
Find Abigail Disney and throw her in a Yellowstone geyser in Minecraft
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t think to bring Snipes back for Blade sooner. Those movies were well liked. At least the first two. When it comics to comics, fans of super hero comics skews heavily male. Also it seems that women like seeing strong male superheroes as well. Female superheroes who exist to upstage males aren’t popular. Who would’ve thought.
If I was Disney I’d do a clean slate with Star Wars. Like you said, they went all in on this crap and got nothing. Maybe an animated Heir to the Empire adaptation to start
When did Snipes have legal issues with the IRS as I can't blame ANYONE being scared to involve him for a while when you had them close by..
There is a Youtube documentary on this.
Turns out his accountant was fucking him over and the government went after him anyway as a quick famous patsy to scare people into paying their taxes.
Oh yea. Good point
I would be only one voice but I am a woman and Superman is my favorite superhero (Reeves was my first favorite movie-wise) I have a few superman comics as well. I loved Star Wars (OT & PT), Star Trek Next Gen. I only watched Buffy for the guys (Spike/Angel) and I love some Die hard. I loved Batman with Michael Keaton first! Then of course Christian Bale.
I watch it to see men do bad ass shit and for the women to fall in love.
Superman is my favorite comic book as well (him and Spidey). If you haven’t read them yet, you may want to try the Star Wars EU (pre-Disney) of course. I enjoyed the dynamic of Superman and Lois.
But you prove the point that there were already women who like it as is.
My friends have suggested the EU as well, it’s on my list! Maybe once my kids are older I’ll get the time to get invested again. It just solidifies the fact that the EU was popular, so many suggesting it to me. I’m excited!
I got a few spoilers here and there and I much prefer a lot of how the EU took the main characters. I hate how Han Solo was ended in the sequels so much. I could go on and on about it, but I’m pretty sure I’m preaching to the choir on how much I hate the sequels.
The trouble is that the "good" movies have woke in them, just not much compared to the shit. So it's just another way of advancing the dialectic. It's either a lot of woke or just a little.
There's actually nothing wrong with having woke in films, it matters how it's portrayed
One of my favourite films, Demolition Man ,is essentially set in a woke world, but because it portays it as an authoritarian suffocating society just with a nice coat of paint, it works really well.
There is because it's an admission that the messaging is ok as long as it's entertaining.
That recent rom com with two white leads that did really well. Anyone but you or something. I saw about 5 minutes of it as I walked through a room . The background characters were walking progressive billboards.
Speaking of Deadpool, in the sequel the pedofile bad guy (very non diverse henchmen btw) in the ending confrontation's first phrase was "they will not replace us" something which was so obviously a progressive phrase referencing Charlottesville despite making no sense in context or the movie or other characters even reacting to it. Then immediately after Deadpool overtly fellates another Man but that's ok because haha woke indoctrination funny.
"Entertainment" is not the deciding factor for woke propaganda, drag shows are not magically ok for children if they're just really entertaining. They're wrong period.