Imagine a world where the owners of an IP actually appealed to the fans of the IP. I know sometimes you can expand your customer base with certain products but certainly not when you try to do it at the expense of loyal customers.
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No, they literally cannot. Because the woke shit is now important canon in the story. So even if they change course, the woke shit will still require being acknowledged and worked with in every future property.
To retcon it, would require a full admission of wrong doing (something these companies will never do) and a massive PR backlash from the people who control social media (making it seem far more powerful and deadly than it is). Which is the only actual option for course correction.
Stories don't matter. They can do ANYTHING with the story.
The problem are the people at Disney. When everyone at Disney is woke there's nobody left to turn things around. There's nobody who could write better stories. There's nobody who could hire people who'd write better stories. There's nobody who could hire better HR. There's nobody to appoint better management.
In Canadian universities they hire DEI candidates and then they force everyone to lie and say she was hired off merit.
this same brainwashing is probably happening at Disney.
yep, its an entire "there are 4 lights" scenario within society at large.
Gotta love using a Star Trek ref. in a Star Wars thread...
This is Star Wars, the fans they "betrayed" literally created the modern version of the obsessive fanbase that catalogues and cares far too much about every minute detail of canon.
That's the people they would be trying to get back by removing the woke shit, which means the story does matter more than anything else.
Disney has much bigger problems than just LucasFilm. Just turning Star Wars around isn't enough to save them. Lurker is right. Disney's real problem is their board of directors and their executives.
Well obviously. That went without saying. Disney is corrupted to the brim on every level.
But I took his question as "can they ditch the woke shit (and save Star Wars)" which is a hearty no for the reasons stated. Because asking if Disney can be saved is completely naive to even entertain such a joke.
Then you had massive expanded universe fans like myself that they told to piss off
Even with a course correction, I don’t think the OG fans would trust them. Disney squandered the last chance to bring all three original characters back together. Star Wars is dead and needs to be buried, not paraded around like a corpse puppet on strings.
That's they're biggest crime innthe end.
Stories are immortal and IP laws are fake and gay. Star Wars will always live on due to those facts.
But the big three reuniting is an opportunity that HAS been squandered forever with no possible recourse. That chance is gone forever.
And why? Because it would have been "derivative" too "expected".
Well quite. I got married recently, but I plan to never have sex with my wife cause that'd be too cliche.
We can't make people happy, that's WAY to obvious.
I hate the whole subversion of expectations. It can be done well but to praise something simply because it’s different is stupid. Critics saying “well everyone expected Luke to be heroic”. In Game of Thrones the showrunners said they couldn’t have Jon kill the Night King because it was expected.
I forget which reviewer or TLJ it was who said the whole movie being jar jar links jerking off of on John Wayne's grave would also be unexpected.
all they had to do was make the thrawn trilogy. they could have easily added some younguns to the cast to set them up for the future.
To be fair, that also sounds retarded and awful in its own way. Not everything needs to be time travel and multiverse stuff. Most stories are better off without it. Hell, even the medium famous for it (superhero comics) would probably be better off if it was used a lot more sparingly and more consequentially (although the "internal consistency" and "consequences" issues with superhero comics are basically a hole with no bottom at this point. Overuse of the multiverse and time travel is hardly their only issue). Star Wars of all things is not a property that time travel and parallel universes belong in.
Also, Ahsoka is a fun character but she does not need to be in literally every Star Wars plotline.
It's still a step up from the sequels, but that's hardly a high bar.
That just makes it worse. If they started it after it became clear they'd need a retcon button, one could try to excuse it as trying to work with what they had. Since they started it before that was the case, it means that they actually thought building towards time travel and alternate timelines and multiverse stuff that never needed to be in Star Wars was a good idea on its own.
I remember thinking after the massive positive reaction that Luke’s appearance at the end of Mando season 2 that it was the perfect time to retcon stuff. I’m a huge fan of the expanded universe and thought it was dumb to just wipe it out instead of continuing it in its own continuity. I remember someone tried to get me to watch Ashoka saying the have elements of Heir to the Empire. I would just rather see an adaptation of it than Disney’s bastardized version.
I’ve heard that Favreau hated TLJ
Anyone with a functioning brain hates the entire Disney Trilogy. Based off the first season of Mando (the only season that exists IMO) Favreau has a love for the universe, so it would hit him doubly hard.
Yea I didn’t like it. Granted after reading the EU stuff for years I didn’t care for the direction they took but the fact they couldn’t reunite the big three and have them pass the torch is crazy. Han and Leia can’t be together, Luke’s Jedi school doesn’t make it in the show and they couldn’t show him being at least a little heroic.