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Dragon quest 3 remake removes biological gender options (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by evilplushie 2 years ago by evilplushie +28 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Remakes are cancer and should be actively discouraged at this point.

Mock companies that do remakes. "Oh was your game not any good the first time around?"

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– BetterNameUnfound 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

These days, I would agree.

However, Dragon Quest/Warrior 3 was fantastic on the Game Boy Color, which is where I first played it.

Play that version instead.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nope. Wrong. They will just become a pride parade instead. The women will be made ugly and the script will be changed to spout all the ideological talking points of people who despise you and the original media will slowly be made completely unavailable. This is an observable pattern.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Your refusal to understand is part of the problem we are facing.

When they remake those games, they will create abominations that wear your beloved games like a skin suit. They won't fix up your old games, they will make wretched things and ruin your old games instead. But like a mindless normie you still croon for the remakes to happen, even though you know that nothing good will come of such a remake.

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– yoisi 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They already messed up the persona 3 remake with wokeness, why the fuck would you want them to mess up the other games too?

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– MLGS 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Well, there's another game off the wishlist.

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– alucard13mmfmj 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Kinda depressing with dragon quest and dead rising being remade for "modern audiences" who apparently are all fags.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

You know what? I'll agree with the core premise: There shouldn't be biological gender options. Or any gender options at all, for that matter. You're telling a story, that story has a main character, and being able to alter significant elements of the main character will alter how that story is perceived (see how, despite the exact same dialogues and stats, people view the female and male Star Rail protags as having vastly different personalities, or the same with the Fire Emblem protags).

Tell the story you intend to tell, don't be cowed into making a selector or a slider. If it's the story of a boy's coming-of-age hero journey, make it so. If it's the story of a girl's coming-of-age heroine's experience, make it so.

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– Assassin47 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Just make a movie then.

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– Gazerbeam 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

You're telling a story, that story has a main character,

DQ3 is one game where that is not really the case. All of the party members are replaceable character classes with no story other than one point that requires you to give away a merchant. The MQ goes through a story but has no characterization other than being "the child of Ortega" which barely matters. Other than that, the game is just a series of local subquests that anyone could go through. There was even a bug that allowed you to get rid of the MQ if I remember correctly.

The player could choose the MQ to be a boy or a girl. It changes the sprite and some dialogue, and that's it. Taking that out? Well, it's annoying. It's the loss of a feature. Taking it out to appease Current Year stupidity, which it looks like they're doing, is retarded.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I'll follow on this too. There should be no gender options.

Only sex options: male / female.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I’m sure there are a few cases where what you’re describing happened, but more often a character where you can choose the sex is intended as a self-insert, and the story is also written with that in mind. This is usually expressed through dialogue choices, branching paths, multiple romance options. With some games those differences are minor and with some they’re major, but they’re almost always there (or, alternatively, you get the Pokemon-style silent protagonist, barebones story, customization is in the Pokemon you use or whatever).

In other words, the fact that the personality is perceived as different depending on the avatar is a feature, not a bug. So, when you say “actually, take it out,” you’re not protecting the story/game as intended—you’re actually damaging it.

Not to mention that even if we say “allowing a self-insert is always strictly worse than what you would produce if you redesigned the story to have a specific protagonist,” what you’re saying would still only apply as writing advice for future projects. A remake of a classic game is based on an already finished product that people loved as it was, and as such its artistic integrity is entirely dependent on not fucking with that product.

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