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The Real Reason Why The 'Dr. Who' Makers Are Clueless About The Backlash: It Was Always Pure Cringe (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by LastRights 1 year ago by LastRights +31 / -0
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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 35 points 1 year ago +35 / -0

Literally the second episode of the reboot series is set during the destruction of Earth, which is caused by the bureaucratic state deciding it's not worth keeping around anymore. There are no more humans - Our descendants consist of a monster (depicted as white and evil) and a half-breed (depicted as virtuous and played by a black woman), who are attending its destruction as some kind of entertainment or self-aggrandizing performative wake.

The episode is not about saving Earth. It's not about rediscovering humanity. It's not even about mourning our loss. The loss of Earth is a background detail, and its point is that you don't matter, your time is at an end, and you just have to deal with it if you want to be part of the future.

This was in 2005. I can't speak for the original series since I've only seen the pilot episode, but the reboot series was pozzed right from the fucking start. Not just in the cringy interracial relationship or anything surface-level like that. Its anti-white, anti-British, and even anti-humanity values were always part of the show, a decade before they would become mainstream.

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– Knife-TotingRat 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Si-Fi has been full of that, dude. If Earth doesn't have humans on it, then these "progressives" think it's not worth anything any more. Period. They're every bit as bad as the right-wing "nothing matters but humans" crowd on that one.

Hell, I have a book of essays by Isaac Asimov ("View from a Height") where he discusses how it'd be much more efficient to build inside large asteroids, instead of on the surface of things. You'd be able to get more livable square footage inside than outside (not to mention it'd be safer, and easier to regulate the atmosphere.) Fine. Until he starts discussing how trillions of humans crawling around inside of rock-chunks someday decide they don't need the planets any more, and blow up Earth so they can fit a few trillion more naked apes into the asteroids that result.

Absolutely NO word on the right of all the other species that still must call Earth home to keep what is THEIR planet, too.

Progs don't care about the environment. They only care about fuckables.

(At least, I think that's the title. It's not the only one I have, and I've read more at the library in the past, but damn, that bit really stuck.)

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

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– misogynegro 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It's probably for the best that we never ascend to the stars if we're just gonna be packed into a bunch of space rocks.

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– Daucus9 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

The episode is not about saving Earth. It's not about rediscovering humanity. It's not even about mourning our loss. The loss of Earth is a background detail, and its point is that you don't matter, your time is at an end, and you just have to deal with it if you want to be part of the future.

You're looking at the episode through a "modern day lens", as the kids would say.

The episode is used to establish that the Time War has greatly impacted the Doctor. He is much more cynical and bitter, while Rose is depicted as utterly naive. The Doctor wants to rattle Rose's cage, so he takes her several billion years into the future to show how Earth will basically be nothing more than a glorified building demolition. He's lost Gallifrey, his home, and eventually Earth will also be gone.

But the purpose of this is also to show how Rose will gradually soften the Doctor as the series goes on. She is naive, and she does have some harsh lessons, but she also makes the Doctor realize that as tragic as his past it and that nothing will last forever, it can make what you do have now all the more precious.

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– FuckYourBullshit 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Isn't in that episode the Earth is being destroyed because the sun is going supernova? So its not so much they are blowing it up but at that point in the show no one has every stopped something on that scale before.

I'd say that's a little different.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There's some tiny agency within whatever galactic superpower it is which preserves planets as historical sites. There's some kind of machine that magically prevents the sun from going supernova, which is operated by all of one guy and a handful of oompa loompa. It's supposed to be some kind of comically absurd penny-pinching bureaucratic bullshit, but obviously they don't go into any detail because Doctor Who is softer sci-fi than fucking Megas XLR.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Yeah, and then Shakespeare was gay in that one. There have always been cringe episodes. That season was so full of them I dislike Martha. The writers are trying to sound cool and end up cringing a bit. The last season of original Who was like that. It took forever to get through Cheetah People. Come Ace, let's die on a whimper.

But then there's the fourth doctor, or season 5 and 6 so it all becomes worth it.

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I always hated Martha. She was the worst Companion until that faggot lesbo showed up. Martha struck me as a fair-weather friend - she was happy with the exploring, but went insane at the slightest hint that it wasn't all puppies and rainbows.

Donna? Now there's someone I can relate to ...

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Donna was going on adventures on her own terms. Martha felt like a tag along.

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– Salixion 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sad they saddled her with a Weird Child

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– deleted 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0
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– censorthisss 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

The only scene I've ever watched is this one: https://youtu.be/ubTJI_UphPk?si=CjSi1zCJrC9DBn6I

It was posted on reddit and most of the comments were like, "Oh my god, this is the most powerful scene in television history!" and at first I thought they were trolling because I found the scene to be pure cringe. But they were dead serious lmao

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– PlagueRat27 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

that scene is pretty good, because the tragic artist kills himself at the end of the episode still even after seeing how valued he had become

sometimes people just fight internal demons regardless of how much you intervene

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's insanely cheesy, but it does have one important sentiment that ironically has been forgotten by its very creators: it's easy to channel your negative emotions into creating something ugly - what's difficult is using them to create something beautiful.

In the past, great artists took their suffering and used it as a drive to make their work. Some of the best artists, writers, and actors of all time had horrible lives.

Today, even a minor perceived slight is enough to send the average "creator" into a spiral of seething and hatred for 30 years, during which they'll intentionally destroy everything they can purely out of spite.

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– realerfunction 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

and then he went home and killed himself.

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– alucard13mmfmj 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

they think in 10 years, the new generation will gobble this shit up like its normal. new generation dont know what is within normality. unfortunately, they are probably right.

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– Knife-TotingRat 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Youngsters think that whatever they grow up with, is normal.

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– alucard13mmfmj 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

There are some things that are always normal. That a guy is born with a dick and a girl is born with a vagina. Ever since mammals walked the earth. Dont think any mammals can "change" their gender/sex.

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– You_Are_Based 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I tend to browse /tv/ and read threads about the sci fi shows I've seen, and the gay black doctor has made it basically impossible for Who-ites to have a decent thread for like a month straight now lol.

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– Salixion 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

He's a trash character who the Showrunner only picked because he has a crush on him and hopes he can suck his knob at some point. It's fitting that the same man that brought it back had now sent doctor who back to the void. But hell it's Disney funded now. They'll probably keep pushing seasons. Probably even buy the property off the BBC.

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