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Hades II Is Addressing The First Game’s Lack Of Body Diversity (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by Galean 2 years ago by Galean +23 / -0
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– Kaarous 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Disney did it first. Probably their loudest bastardization of source material from back in the day. Because of course what the myths and legends of Ancient Greece, the forefathers of all civilization, truly needed was fat black women and gospel singing.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I don't mind the original because it's so obviously bastardized that it's arguably stylization, not subversion. In the real mythology, satyrs don't have thick Brooklyn accents, Hades doesn't have two funny demon sidekicks, and Pegasus doesn't act like a dog. This much is obvious even to children.

The problem is when they try to get sneaky with it. Make things as accurate as possible, but then inject some current year into it to get people wondering if maybe ancient Greece really was 40% Bantu.

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– cccpneveragain 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

The first one was diverse enough.

Besides, if I’m a god, I’m surely not going to be in a fucking wheelchair. I’m either going to be god enough to heal myself, or command some lesser beings to carry me around on a golden and velvet throne.

I won’t be buying this game over that alone, and I have every game Supergiant has made.

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– Galean [S] 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

They build around the fact that his feet were deformed and I know he was sometimes described as using a walking stick.

But he was also suppose to be muscular, the guy worked a forge all day. How exactly did he do that in a freaking wheelchair on a diet of fast food.

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– cccpneveragain 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I mean kids in wheelchairs with physical ailments is probably one of the "inclusion" groups I have the most compassion for, having not gotten there by the way of mental illness. I could probably talk myself past my ever increasing aversion for DEI characters if that type character's placement was right. Someone that looks like they'd be in the fat cart at Walmart with a 5 sizes too small mask stretched over their face screaming at me about health, well that isn't going to shine those people in a positive light anyway.

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– Assassin47 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Kids in wheelchairs don't want to be represented in fiction as kids in wheelchairs.

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– cccpneveragain 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Makes sense and why I've really always hated representation. They always pick out the one person "we need to see ourselves in a story." If I play a game that I create someone to mirror myself, I still want to be a badass. My real world self can't fight off hordes of monsters with an axe, call fire down from the sky, win an F1 race or a World Series, etc. Who wants realistic real life simulation anyway?

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– MLGS 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

If you wanted to be incredibly charitable, you can see old fat guy blacksmiths on Forged in Fire. That's not why he's a fat guy in the game, obviously, but they'd win the argument anywhere that has jannies.

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– SR388-SAX 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I won’t be buying this game over that alone, and I have every game Supergiant has made.

Same. And Bastion was one of the very few games where the narration and art actually carried the game, because "shoot, roll, shoot, roll" honestly isn't very interesting on its own.

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– OmegaBird 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Yeah, no one was complaining that app the Greek gods were hot. And no one is praising that the introduction of fatties and wheelchairs (that didn't even exist back then) is coming in. Hepheatus is supposed to be ugly yes. But he's also supposed to be hideously ugly, deformed, not just some fat guy in a wheelchair. DIE morons sabotaging their own stuff again to virtue signal.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The ancient Greeks would have 100% considered this new depiction of Hephaestus to be hideously ugly and deformed. So it's really another case of trying so hard to tick boxes that you accidentally wrap back around to the truth.

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– el_hoovy 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

we should stop being surprised and start creating our own fiction eventually. companies controlled by midwit normies succumbing to jewish-funded fiction-destroying regiments is not worth this many posts per week.

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– rebuildingMyself 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

AI tools are getting better and better at a rapid pace. Soon, with a few GPUs, you'll be able to make your own movies and art easily with less and less post editing required.

Hell, maybe one day we'll be able to feed in some movie with woke bullshit in and output the same movie without the woke. Similar to how some based mods replace the woke characters with pretty and normal versions (probably original intent before the DEI goons got involved).

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– Dereliction 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yup, access to some of the really powerful upcoming AI tools is going to change the landscape some.

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– Assassin47 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Trying to make it even harder to fix with AI-art mods.

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– ModsAreAIDS 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

If a game needs to be "fixed" with mods, you shouldn't be buying it. Rewarding developers for their bad ideas is what got us where we are today. FOMO is woman behavior, so stop falling for it.

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– Assassin47 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I disagree. You can always pirate and mod to avoid rewarding them. There's ton's of games new and old that would be almost perfect if not for one or two little niggles, be it a weird control scheme, some imbalanced enemy AI, blaqqed race-swap, or out of place rainbow flag that would look much better as a swastika. Hades is an example where where the game plays very well and is just all around wholesome fun once you get rid of the diversity art.

Agreed on FOMO I mostly play old obscure titles.

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– ThreeLights 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Those eyes on Hephaestus… very feminine eyes. Straight up bearded lady vibes.

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– BwonsamdiTheDead 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Link isn't working for me

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– TheMerleOfHaggard 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Can save money for another game is what that headline says to me.

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– voidposter 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I love how these queers write in such a way as to imply this is a universally agreed upon "problem" in need of "fixing".

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