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Leaked E-mails Reveal Hugo Awards Committee Spied On Writers On Behalf Of The Chinese Government For Chengdu WorldCon (fandompulse.com)
posted 2 years ago by Gazerbeam 2 years ago by Gazerbeam +56 / -0
Emails Reveal Chengdu Worldcon Hugo Awards Are A Catastrophe
The Hugo Awards committee at Chengdu Worldcon 2023 actively spied on writers and nominees on behalf of the Chinese government.
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– APDSmith 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

... I mean, is anybody surprised that a bunch of leftie ideologues find themselves more at home with the authoritarianism of China than anywhere else?

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– Smith1980 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Doesn’t surprise me and that stupid woman won the Hugo three years in a row. She spends her speech whining about racism and the Silverberg gets attacked for calling her out

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– SR388-SAX 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Are we sure that's a woman?

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– Smith1980 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Good point

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– nuggetpatrol 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

inhales deeply, sighs heavily

Okay. Is there any, and I mean ANY fucking award out there that isn't compromised out the ass, or isn't just tokenism?

Hugo? Nope

Academy Award? Nope

Oscar? Nope

The Nobel fucking peace prize? Nope

Pulitzer? Nope

Grammy? Nope.

Presidential medal of freedom? Nope

The only one I can think of is the fucking MTV teen choice award because it appears that normal people's votes actually matter, and it isn't being rigged behind the scenes. But even then, it very easily could be.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Awards are always a statement. It's the reason why American broadcasters always talk about the difficulties each person has gone through in the Olympics. These same athletes are government sponsored and have access to huge sponsors and supplies.

Nobody talks about the lady who won the riflery gold every year, or the bad minton players.

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– ThePipeGuy 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nebula (maybe) or the razzie maybe?

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– stainless-steel-rat 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

The Nebula is voted on by SF writers (members of the Science Fiction Writers of America) and from what I’ve heard through friends is probably even more compromised than the Hugo awards.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

From the list I'm working right now about the Hugo's.

Books: Hugo's

Emails reveal all

https://archive.ph/xWerM

Apology letter about latest Hugo Debacle

https://archive.ph/c05Z2

And now the previous list

Books: Hugo Awards

Hugo Awards going through problems… again…

https://archive.ph/pzXA7

A basic timeline using someone's blog

https://archive.ph/07do5

The director quit

https://archive.ph/sepG7

Another blog about it

https://archive.ph/fyeh4

Voting problems

https://archive.ph/IidFN

They were excluding authors who would anger the Communist Party

https://archive.ph/RW39R

A long blog that sort of blames Trump and wants other controls to save the day

https://archive.ph/cr0I5

Brad Torgeson responds on Facebook

https://archive.ph/d9EOG

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– deleted 43 points 2 years ago +43 / -0
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– Kalamander85 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Right? Is it too much to ask for some decent fantasy and sci fi stories?

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

You mean writing a Munchausen by proxy self insert story about how your lover is transformed into a miniature dinosaur is not good sci fi?

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

"That time my wife was reincarnated as the weakest level dinosaur and made me into her veterinarian" will be a smash hit in the light novel scene, I'm sure.

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– Raos044 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

That's not long enough to be a real light novel title these days.

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– Smith1980 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I remember the supposed nerd sites gushing over that story. That’s when I started to realize those sites didn’t care about the fans

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– ArtemisFoul 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Wait it's real? I thought it was a random absurd example. I guess I really shouldn't be surprised by anything after the unironic "I actually am an attack helicopter" story.

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– Smith1980 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Yea I remember some story regarding something lgbt and a dinosaur won a Hugo

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– Kaarous 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That would be Space Raptor Butt Invasion.

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That is actually the title?

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... continue reading thread?
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– Puddinhead 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I read a crap ton of of sci fi published by Baen and Sad Puppies writers. Good scifi is out there but it hasn't been at the Hugos or Nebulas in 20 years.

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– Smith1980 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I came across Baen a few years ago. Do they do a better job of gatekeeping? Their stuff doesn’t seem to be woke nonsense

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– Puddinhead 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I wouldn't say they gatekeep at all actually. Theyll published stuff from people pretty far on the left. They just care about good scifi. They dont care about who you are. They wont publish a black lesbian scifi author because of her identity unless she writes well. A bunch of the Sad Puppies were Baen-published authors.

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Gotcha. Also I notice they stick to sci-fi. I love their site and try to support them

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– deleted 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

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