Martin wrote the series to "subvert expectations," at a certain point he wrote himself into a corner and there's nothing left to subvert. He would have to just write a normal story and that's unbearable for him.
There's also the interesting tidbit that he had a collaborator on the first two books (the Expanse author) who left to pursue his own career, then Martin's output plummeted.
I doubt he wrote more than a chapter or two of Book 6, if even that.
It's something that so many people still cannot accept: Martin is and always was a hack. All writers that rely upon "subverting expectations" are terrible. Do you think Tolkien was interested in "subverting expectations"? Do you think Shelley was? Lewis, Barrie, Stoker, Carroll, etc, etc, etc.
Great authors don't look to subvert those that came before them. They simply wish to be among them, even if they often don't think they could be.
There's nothing wrong with a twist, but nutty leftists have decided that subverting expectations is the only thing that matters. Hence, they embrace every new degeneracy they encounter, and seek out the next, as if it's a badge of honor.
That's what I mean by "writers that rely upon subverting expectations".
There's nothing wrong with twists. Twists are generally good. The problem arises when a writer relies solely on twists as their bread and butter as a marker of quality.
Twists are just one tool in a writers repertoire. Ignoring the other tools available can only lead to substandard stories.
I have the ultimate subversion: the Others stop faffing around and execute their plan, bulldozing the Wall down, overrunning Westeros, bringing on an eternal winter to it, and killing everyone. Because bad guys and the universe as a whole don't just wait around for everyone else to finish their character arcs before taking action. Bam, big story about deconstructing fantasy conventions done.
I've known d&d campaigns to turn out like that. Party decides to fuck off on a side quest of their own fabrication then wonder why the apocalypse happens 6 months later.
to "subvert expectations," at a certain point he wrote himself into a corner
Or as I like to call it, circling the drain. You abandon all sense of a coherent storyline so the only thing keeping you afloat is shock value. So you spin things faster and faster trying to stave off the inevitabe fall.
Martin wrote the series to "subvert expectations," at a certain point he wrote himself into a corner and there's nothing left to subvert. He would have to just write a normal story and that's unbearable for him.
There's also the interesting tidbit that he had a collaborator on the first two books (the Expanse author) who left to pursue his own career, then Martin's output plummeted.
I doubt he wrote more than a chapter or two of Book 6, if even that.
It's something that so many people still cannot accept: Martin is and always was a hack. All writers that rely upon "subverting expectations" are terrible. Do you think Tolkien was interested in "subverting expectations"? Do you think Shelley was? Lewis, Barrie, Stoker, Carroll, etc, etc, etc.
Great authors don't look to subvert those that came before them. They simply wish to be among them, even if they often don't think they could be.
There's nothing wrong with a twist, but nutty leftists have decided that subverting expectations is the only thing that matters. Hence, they embrace every new degeneracy they encounter, and seek out the next, as if it's a badge of honor.
They issue is that they'll sacrifice the entire rest of the story for that twist.
Even if the twist isn't worth it.
That's what I mean by "writers that rely upon subverting expectations".
There's nothing wrong with twists. Twists are generally good. The problem arises when a writer relies solely on twists as their bread and butter as a marker of quality.
Twists are just one tool in a writers repertoire. Ignoring the other tools available can only lead to substandard stories.
Martin doesn't even like Tolkien IIRC.
I have the ultimate subversion: the Others stop faffing around and execute their plan, bulldozing the Wall down, overrunning Westeros, bringing on an eternal winter to it, and killing everyone. Because bad guys and the universe as a whole don't just wait around for everyone else to finish their character arcs before taking action. Bam, big story about deconstructing fantasy conventions done.
I've known d&d campaigns to turn out like that. Party decides to fuck off on a side quest of their own fabrication then wonder why the apocalypse happens 6 months later.
Based.
Or as I like to call it, circling the drain. You abandon all sense of a coherent storyline so the only thing keeping you afloat is shock value. So you spin things faster and faster trying to stave off the inevitabe fall.
What is so wrong with just telling a story nowadays? Idk why people are so obsessed with “subverting expectations”
Leftist brain rot. They only know The Revolution
The legacy of modern entertainment is hating your audience.
Because retards want "to be shocked" rather than entertained.