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George R.R. Martin blames 'Toxic Fans' and 'Trump Supporters' for not being able to finish his book. The dog ate his notes too. (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by CanuckElhead 2 years ago by CanuckElhead +68 / -0
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– AccountWasFree 39 points 2 years ago +39 / -0

It's something that so many people still cannot accept: Martin is and always was a hack. All writers that rely upon "subverting expectations" are terrible. Do you think Tolkien was interested in "subverting expectations"? Do you think Shelley was? Lewis, Barrie, Stoker, Carroll, etc, etc, etc.

Great authors don't look to subvert those that came before them. They simply wish to be among them, even if they often don't think they could be.

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– BoberFett 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

There's nothing wrong with a twist, but nutty leftists have decided that subverting expectations is the only thing that matters. Hence, they embrace every new degeneracy they encounter, and seek out the next, as if it's a badge of honor.

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– APDSmith 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They issue is that they'll sacrifice the entire rest of the story for that twist.

Even if the twist isn't worth it.

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– AccountWasFree 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That's what I mean by "writers that rely upon subverting expectations".

There's nothing wrong with twists. Twists are generally good. The problem arises when a writer relies solely on twists as their bread and butter as a marker of quality.

Twists are just one tool in a writers repertoire. Ignoring the other tools available can only lead to substandard stories.

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– Assassin47 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Martin doesn't even like Tolkien IIRC.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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