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Marvelous Chart and bad explanation (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +24 / -0
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– rebuildingMyself 34 points 2 years ago +34 / -0

I'll never accept that Black Panther organically made that much money without all the BLM/race-baiting/review-rigging that was going on back then. That was an era of peak black supremacy.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

The same for Captain Marvel.

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– MLGS 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Captain Marvel was 100% because it was the movie before Endgame, no movie in that slot would have made less than a billion dollars.

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– voidposter 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

That seemed more due to lead up to End Game

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– YesMovement 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

CM was billed as must-see viewing for Endgame.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I didn't feel left out by not seeing it.

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– YesMovement 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I said it was billed as must-see viewing for Endgame, not that it was...although you'd have no idea who this uber-powerful bitch is without seeing it.

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– SoctaticMethod1 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Damn only Spider-Man broke $1 billion after Endgame (disappointed that Winter Soldier isn't higher) which is probably less for Disney as they have to share that with Sony.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That's still a lot of money they made over budget.

Charts like this allow for number crunching enjoyment.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– Guy_Incognito76 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

The original Captain America First Avenger is my favorite single film out of the whole MCU, and I think Cap's movies in general are the most consistent in quality. Iron Man and Thor have their ups and downs, not to mention the C-list guys.

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– YesMovement 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Iron Man 1 is the only great one. 2 is good, 3 is shit.

I liked the 1st Thor, but the others were all garbage- man, haven't seen Dark World since it 1st came out but it must seem amazing now compared to the Waikiki shit.

Cap has to be the winner with 1st, Winter & Civil War, although that almost doesn't seem fair as it was basically Avengers 2.5.

Guardians has to take 2nd, 3 solid movies.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– BetterNameUnfound 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yes.

Say what you will about the rest of the MCU, but Captain America: The Winter Soldier is an unironically great movie.

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– Guy_Incognito76 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I still admire Marvel for the risks they took and the success they achieved, and created some of the most fun and enjoyable popcorn flicks of all time. All the criticism nowadays is fully justified, but people forget that Marvel took huge risks making films with B-list rejects that only nerds cared about, funded it themselves, achieved mainstream success, and built a film empire that made all the other studios seethe with envy.

Re: people like Martin Scorsese, if the MCU is just mass-market corporatized junk, why did every single attempt to copy it fail? Kevin Feige had the simple idea of mining 60 years of comic books for the best storylines and turning them into films, and it worked great. Now they are failing due to switching to woke crap from the entryists that have been sabotaging the comics since the early 2000s (Miles Morales was the canary in that coal mine). Doesn't change that characters like Iron Man and Thor or projects like the Avengers were considered risky bets and doomed to fail, but succeeded brilliantly.

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– Adamrises 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The important takeaway from that chart is that its opening isn't that much lower than many of the other non-ultra hyped movies. Its hard to tell because whatever loser made this chart didn't label his axis worth anything beyond the 1/2 Billion marks.

So what's killing this movie isn't entirely just a bad opening, of which there were plenty throughout the series, but a word of mouth so bad that it isn't picking up any steam. Which means its not "fatigue" effecting it, but it actually being that bad.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Good catch.

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– NatalieBiden 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

critic ratings

Aren’t they the corrupt ratings not worth looking at?

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– rebuildingMyself 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm sure it's been going on long before I noticed, but I've written off anything the "official" critics say about anything ever since they worshiped the Black Panther movie (while censoring away anyone who criticized it). I'm guessing that was more on fear of the BLM brownshirts showing up at their doors than anything positive about the movie itself.

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– FatalConceit 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

No man I know likes Brie Larson

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– Guy_Incognito76 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Captain Marvel did better than I thought. I wonder if that was mainly pre-Endgame hype, since I never hear anything good about that film.

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– simian 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It was Endgame hype and also female empowerment (same way Black Panther was carried by selling itself as a Black culture milestone).

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One of the mid/post-credits sequences in Infinity War referenced her directly. The only way they could have possibly lost money on that movie is if they filmed part of it on the moon.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

So. Much. Garbage

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– simian 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is is mindblowing. Nobody expected the Marvels to do as well as Captain Marvel, but I doubt anyone anticipated it flopping so hard. This isn't superhero fatigue; GotG3 and Spider-Verse performed solidly. I expect Aquaman 2 will succeed. A lot of people enjoyed the first movie, so as long as this one isn't terrible I think it will enjoy good word of mouth and perform. If it does, it proves that superhero fatigue isn't a factor. It's shitty movie fatigue. People have endured so many mediocre Marvel movies that this was them collectively saying "enough." It's not a Marvels thing; if Thor 4, Doctor Strange 2, or Black Panther 2, or AntMan 3 had swapped places with it, they'd have shared the same fate. They were all really mediocre movies that survived purely on the Marvel branding, and that branding has finally lost its appeal. That's purely on Disney for making so many shitty movies and shows in such rapid succession.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They lie about it in the chart

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