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Atlantic: Why the GOP Extremists Oppose Ukraine (archive.vn)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +16 / -0
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– Norenia 38 points 2 years ago +38 / -0

Staying out of funding a war is extremism?

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– Ahaus667 [S] 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Insert Russia fear mongering here

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– realerfunction 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

you don't understand! russia, who it appears can barely handle ukraine, is going to take over all of europe!

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– Grumman 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

My answer: because the current Ukrainian regime is the product of an anti-democratic riot that installed Kiev's and the U.S. State Department's preferred candidate as interim leader over the democratically elected pro-Russia, ethnic Russian Yanukovich. Since that time they have not had a single election that included the winners of their last free election (the eastern provinces' departure from the democratic process is a direct reaction to Kiev's refusal to let them win a fair election), have declared two out of three presidents to be traitors against the post-revolution regime, and have waged war against the winners of the last free election to prevent them being a Taiwan-style rump state of the previous Ukrainian regime. The current regime possesses neither a democratic nor a moral mandate.

The current Ukrainian regime is the brainchild of two groups, both of which I oppose. Obama's State Department's fantasies of reversing the domino theory are insane, meaning toppling Russia's allies one by one until they could do the same to Russia, while an intelligence officer leading a nuclear superpower just sits there and waits as they lower the noose around his neck. And a precedent that the population of the capital city should possess a rioter's veto over any election is an existential threat to conservatism in many countries, whose capitals attract leftists like crumbs attract cockroaches.

I will now read the article to see what bullshit they are claiming.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Absolutely correct. I'd just add that Yanukovich was not really pro-Russia, but more of a balancer. He was just pro-Yanukovich, and Putin was very annoyed at his incompetence and corruption.

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– deleted 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0
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– RoulerBleu 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Ultra MAGA Extreme Double Whooper.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'll take that and a Libertarian Pumpkin Spice Snake Shake

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

extrEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEme

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– realerfunction 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

fuck you. ukraine is a fake country that only exists to be a corruption black hole. they poked the bear and deserve what they're getting.

america never traitors like this communist faggot will wish they did not live to see the end.

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– JiggsawCalrissian 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

GOP extremists

Add it to the pile of fake qualifiers. Alt right, far right, maga, maga republican, alt maga, ultra maga and all the other things the left use to pretend there's some version of republican they won't just call fascist anyway.

If you think you hate them enough you're wrong

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Tom Nichols is a real nutcase. But here he really undermines his own argument. First, he says that the GOP does not like this because they 'love dictators' (like Biden?), as well as making other false assertions, and at the end, he claims that conservatives are just being contrarian and that they would be demanding support for Ukraine if liberals opposed it.

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– Assassin47 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They should try reverse psychology then and see what happens.

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