"Conspiracy to" has always been the most ridiculous charge. Change my mind. It exists only to rope in people who can't be proven guilty, but "oh we're sure about this one; he's a well known criminal".
Local PD readily use the charge on local criminals. DC uses it on anybody they want; anybody who dared to scheme to knock on their door.
Watch any of those true crime shows where they want you to feel bad for the criminals. Like half of them are sympathetic because they were thrown in there based on an association with a murderer. Riding in the same car is enough. But naturally not-murderers should punished less severely than murderers. Under the law they are punished the same which is BS to me. And this effects black men a ton for those who are worried about the social justice aspect. Since they associate with other black men. Who shoot people. It's not always super-sympathetic people, but non-murderers don't need to be in on life sentences.
Most crimes outside basic labels like "murder, assault, robbery, rape" only exist to rope in people who haven't committed a real crime, but they really want to arrest them anyway.
I see why a lot of them might exist, and even be a net positive at times (like loitering), but in principle they are just rife for abuse if the cops feel like it.
Well the jail is full of whoever they swept up that night. Loitered in the wrong place, or girlfriend called the cops, or constructively drunk drove into a fire hydrant, IDK (after getting thrown out by the gf, probably, cuz it's always that day) . The real theft that goes on on a daily basis isn't investigated.
I actually talked to a guy in jail because I guess he thought I looked smart and asked me about his case. Anyways he asked me what "constructive possession" was, and I told him it means they didn't catch you with shit, and they're charging you with stealing it anyways. If you didn't steal it, you should not talk to the fuckin cops but tell the lawyer that shit. For all I know they just had him in on some BS. As was my case, but that's a different story.
Unless you're the fed(s) that thought up the crime and persuaded some mentally challenged sap to carry it out -- then your "conspiracy" is actually stunning and brave.
Two of the main leaders/organizers of the Ottawa trucker protest are being tried this week before Trudeau's stacked court for "counseling to commit mischief".
"Conspiracy" is a crime in itself now, It doesn't matter what sort of action you're supposed to be conspiring to commit.
If you make a plan with your brother and sister to buy your parents a new car, you are now guilty of conspiracy.
They can now point to Trump and say he conspired with these people to "overthrow the government." I'm willing to bet that this will convict him in GA or wherever these fucking disgusting lying dogs are charging him with "fomenting an insurrection."
I hope the people railroaded into the klink can raise enough $ for appeals. I suppose they'll have to use a method other than GoFuckMe and those other outfits that steal their clients' $ at the command of the state.
I was hoping the GA case would be appealed. I think it will be pretty easy for them to find one sympathetic (and retarded) jury in Fulton. Legal types, on the other hand, have been uniformly skeptical of the charges. On the TDS end of it, they frame it as "DJT gonna get away with it again because the prosecutor is just that stunning and brave".
Meaning I think judges will see it in their long term interest to have this particular case handled very cautiously. For one thing, it sets a precedent that "their bosses*" can face charges kind of out of the blue, which makes them uncomfortable. The actions occurring at the time were presumed legal, by everyone, remember. Nobody decided it was a crime until years later. That makes politicians uncomfortable, and they realize Republicans aren't going away tomorrow in Georgia. So there will likely be reprisal, and it seems like the best thing for all the politicians is to have these prosecutions not happen.
*Judges and lawyers are the same group of people. Their whole life they get paid to do "law stuff," and much of that time they spend in the private sector. They probably grant favors as a judge and then cash them in as a lawyer. It's a racket and naturally they work for rich businesspeople the most. So that's pretty much who owns em.
"Conspiracy to" has always been the most ridiculous charge. Change my mind. It exists only to rope in people who can't be proven guilty, but "oh we're sure about this one; he's a well known criminal".
Local PD readily use the charge on local criminals. DC uses it on anybody they want; anybody who dared to scheme to knock on their door.
Watch any of those true crime shows where they want you to feel bad for the criminals. Like half of them are sympathetic because they were thrown in there based on an association with a murderer. Riding in the same car is enough. But naturally not-murderers should punished less severely than murderers. Under the law they are punished the same which is BS to me. And this effects black men a ton for those who are worried about the social justice aspect. Since they associate with other black men. Who shoot people. It's not always super-sympathetic people, but non-murderers don't need to be in on life sentences.
Most crimes outside basic labels like "murder, assault, robbery, rape" only exist to rope in people who haven't committed a real crime, but they really want to arrest them anyway.
I see why a lot of them might exist, and even be a net positive at times (like loitering), but in principle they are just rife for abuse if the cops feel like it.
Well the jail is full of whoever they swept up that night. Loitered in the wrong place, or girlfriend called the cops, or constructively drunk drove into a fire hydrant, IDK (after getting thrown out by the gf, probably, cuz it's always that day) . The real theft that goes on on a daily basis isn't investigated.
Yup. "Conspiracy" = Thoughtcrime, definitionally
I actually talked to a guy in jail because I guess he thought I looked smart and asked me about his case. Anyways he asked me what "constructive possession" was, and I told him it means they didn't catch you with shit, and they're charging you with stealing it anyways. If you didn't steal it, you should not talk to the fuckin cops but tell the lawyer that shit. For all I know they just had him in on some BS. As was my case, but that's a different story.
Unless you're the fed(s) that thought up the crime and persuaded some mentally challenged sap to carry it out -- then your "conspiracy" is actually stunning and brave.
Two of the main leaders/organizers of the Ottawa trucker protest are being tried this week before Trudeau's stacked court for "counseling to commit mischief".
Fucking guilt by association!
"Conspiracy" is a crime in itself now, It doesn't matter what sort of action you're supposed to be conspiring to commit.
If you make a plan with your brother and sister to buy your parents a new car, you are now guilty of conspiracy.
They can now point to Trump and say he conspired with these people to "overthrow the government." I'm willing to bet that this will convict him in GA or wherever these fucking disgusting lying dogs are charging him with "fomenting an insurrection."
I hope the people railroaded into the klink can raise enough $ for appeals. I suppose they'll have to use a method other than GoFuckMe and those other outfits that steal their clients' $ at the command of the state.
I was hoping the GA case would be appealed. I think it will be pretty easy for them to find one sympathetic (and retarded) jury in Fulton. Legal types, on the other hand, have been uniformly skeptical of the charges. On the TDS end of it, they frame it as "DJT gonna get away with it again because the prosecutor is just that stunning and brave".
Meaning I think judges will see it in their long term interest to have this particular case handled very cautiously. For one thing, it sets a precedent that "their bosses*" can face charges kind of out of the blue, which makes them uncomfortable. The actions occurring at the time were presumed legal, by everyone, remember. Nobody decided it was a crime until years later. That makes politicians uncomfortable, and they realize Republicans aren't going away tomorrow in Georgia. So there will likely be reprisal, and it seems like the best thing for all the politicians is to have these prosecutions not happen.
*Judges and lawyers are the same group of people. Their whole life they get paid to do "law stuff," and much of that time they spend in the private sector. They probably grant favors as a judge and then cash them in as a lawyer. It's a racket and naturally they work for rich businesspeople the most. So that's pretty much who owns em.
I hope you're right.
Money laundering charges and civil asset forfeiture are some completely unjust laws too!