They did lose one that you can find not scrubbed from the internet. Way back in 2000 in Colorado.
Wherein a Jewish couple thought their neighbors dog fighting with their dog was an antisemitic conspiracy against them, so they used a police scanner to listen to their phone conversations. When they heard a Jew joke, they took it as a threat and got the ADL involved. They got over 10 million at the end of it from the ADL alone. Though given how absurd that story was it was probably easy to win.
But Musk claims to have actual evidence of them outright interfering with his business and costing him outright money, which is something most people fail to have in defamation suits.
they might have, but the SPLC lost. historically, they argued that labeling someone as racist/anti-semitic/sexist is an opinion, not subject to defamation laws. but then these DEI grifters lost in court because even their language shows they treat it as assertions of fact.
the SPLC has now paid out millions for falsely labeling people/groups as racist.
so yeah, this lawsuit has legs, and i'll be happy to see elon take them down a couple pegs.
Hasn't the ADL already beaten defamation lawsuits in the past? Is there a point?
They did lose one that you can find not scrubbed from the internet. Way back in 2000 in Colorado.
Wherein a Jewish couple thought their neighbors dog fighting with their dog was an antisemitic conspiracy against them, so they used a police scanner to listen to their phone conversations. When they heard a Jew joke, they took it as a threat and got the ADL involved. They got over 10 million at the end of it from the ADL alone. Though given how absurd that story was it was probably easy to win.
But Musk claims to have actual evidence of them outright interfering with his business and costing him outright money, which is something most people fail to have in defamation suits.
So did Vic Mignogna, and he lost.
Vic's loss can almost be squarely laid on the feet of Ty Beard and his incompetence.
Like, he still might have lost otherwise. But Beard almost made certain of it.
Not really, though. He lost because he was deemed a public person. Wasn't he?
Musk's attorneys really need to study the Vic case, and figure out exactly how much he needs to pay the judge to avoid the same outcome.
Whoa is that for real? Link!?
For reasons I've yet to figure out, I cannot get any archive site to work on my machine. So here is the unarchived link from Jweekly.
Thanks to Muskie's thing here, basically all searches with any of these words are dominated by him so that's the only source I could find.
I think even Y2K era me would have wondered why that was a thing and why just normal "intimidation" charges were insufficient.
Thank you, I appreciate you posting the link. That shit is absolutely wild!
Isn't dog fighting in and of itself a crime?
It fucking should be.
I'd assume in this case its them rushing each other at the fence and being loud about it, given its the suburbs.
One dog constantly bullying and trying to fight another dog does not make for illegal bloodsports.
Did those previous lawsuits get files on behalf of anyone with pockets as deep as Musk's? And if so were they as much of a malcontent as he is?
Majid Nawaz won a defamation lawsuit a while back -- it might have been against the SPLC though, not the ADL.
Yes, it was the SPLC.
they might have, but the SPLC lost. historically, they argued that labeling someone as racist/anti-semitic/sexist is an opinion, not subject to defamation laws. but then these DEI grifters lost in court because even their language shows they treat it as assertions of fact.
the SPLC has now paid out millions for falsely labeling people/groups as racist.
so yeah, this lawsuit has legs, and i'll be happy to see elon take them down a couple pegs.