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Congrats, you are now competing with the government for apartments because they have to house all those "refugees", and the government can pay any price.
Who would have thought that importing a bunch of people who want your job and need housing would raise the demand for housing, and lower the demand for your work?
Middle class leftoids who were thinking immigrants would only steal the "redneck" jobs.
Joke's on them, now the immigrants are doing their jobs too since the corporations don't care at all about competence, they just play competitive woke box ticking against each other.
It is getting worse but y'all live in shithole states/countries and expect it to be different. This is what you get when you live in some faggot leftoid held state/country.
All I'm seeing in here is Commiefornians and Eurofags mad that the people they allowed to be voted in created shitty living conditions for them.
Move.
This. They are at war with us and are intent on our destruction. They will not leave you alone, ever. Secession should only ever be the first step towards consolidation and counterattack, never a goal in and of itself.
Voting doesn't matter, everything was forced.
Move where? Space colony?
That would be nice.
The first answer I have for most of these people I hear going on and on about rent is to move. It's even easier for this chick or dude or whatever, they are a lawyer that's not exactly a service that has no value elsewhere. There are loads and loads of places that aren't $3,600 a month in the country.
The 3 bedroom house I own rents out for $1,350 a month. Yeah it's not the most exotic location and it's in the most boring flyover of flyover country, but it's only 5 years old and while I don't personally manage it I've never skimped my property manager on maintenance money. I also still make money on it.
That's the other answer I have. Landlords are not a charity for you. Buy your own damn property.
Americans have only just begun to get a whiff of the housing shock that has gripped Canada and the UK (among others) for years thanks to malicious governance and mass immigration. I actually don't think it will get that bad here except in a few blue states, but we've got our own worsening supply/construction problems too.
Yup. I was looking at apartments where I live in rural California, and 1 bedroom appts are going for $2100. Again this is in a rural area, hours from any big city.
California. Question answered. Next.
It's happening in rural areas of other states too admittedly.
Is the housing market screwed up, yeah sure. It's bonkers. My house would list for twice what I paid for it just 6 years ago.
Still though, I'm quite familiar with the housing market and am well aware of housing prices. Have I bought anything with the current rates? No. I probably will in a couple years though and I can still make money on it.
I'll give a real example I just picked this house right out of the most middle of the country. I've never lived in the area but I know that area a bit and it's pretty decent. 25mins from the OKC CBD where any working professional can get paid enough to afford it. Here's a house for sale, $281k, 1935 sq ft with 3 bedrooms. Doesn't appear old and falling apart. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7320-Stinchcomb-Dr-Oklahoma-City-OK-73132/60558162_zpid/?
30 year mortgage for someone who can only scrape up the FHA 3.5% down payment with taxes and insurance is going to be in the $2,400 a month area. That's with today's insane interest rates. If we hadn't gone nuts giving away inflation money to Covid panic, that would be a $1800 house payment just from lower interest alone.
There are loads of examples like this all over the country and in some cases it gets better if you are more remote.
I actually just looked around my town for some places. I found plenty that were monthly mortgages in the $1,800 range for 3 bed, 2 bath homes, which would be a home for a family so you would expect multiple people paying in on it. And most apartments rent for around $800/month and cover almost all utilities except internet.
Wow, $800 a month. Maybe I should move. That's not much more than I was paying for my first apartments close to 20 years ago.
I guess Kansas exist in a timeskip where all of this stuff with the modern world passed us by then. Because a lot of what is around me is still what it has always been. Looking at my local Zillow right now, rents in the $1,000+ range get you an entire house, never mind an apartment.
Which is why this sort of stuff is entirely within range of being affordable to all but the most destitute of people. And as a tradesman myself (machinist) I can make plenty to afford this stuff and still have enough to save and invest.
I could definitely live in Kansas. I don't think I'd want to be in the west. That's a bit too remote for me. I stayed in Wichita a few years ago, I would have no problem being in the sub-suburbs of there or a nearby small town.
Honestly, I like Texas and I've lived here almost 15 years, but the influx of business is not going to be good for the state. I'm pretty well set in a house I have on reasonable terms in an area that shouldn't grow up too much now, so I stay because I have no friends elsewhere. If suddenly all my friends disappeared I'd be looking to move. I'm glad I moved out of growing metro suburbia hell 6 years ago. It's just getting too busy and there's corporate offices and stuff popping up all over the place.
From what I know even machine programmers get paid like shit, how can you afford a home?
Because where I live $18.75/hour is enough to live a comfortable life? I dont know how else to explain it. I am not living high on the hog, but I am not living paycheck to paycheck either.
I also dont own a house. They are still a little to expensive to pay for with only one salary. I was saying the typical family could afford a house. I still live in a rental.
Plenty of normal people can afford that. That could be done on a $75k annual salary fairly easily in Oklahoma where you'd net $4,500ish a month after taxes. Take off money for utilities and a car and you're living on $30-40 a day for food, gas, etc. Is it going to work for some guy bussing tables, no, but $75k is well within the average pay for professional or skilled labor with 10 years of experience.
I fall in that Millennial age range as much as I hate to admit it and I pulled it off. I know a much younger person that just got an engineer job at a defense contractor. He's definitely in that pay range. He's 23. I've known him since he was 12. Only luck he had was having parents that raised him right. Didn't grow up rich. Worked hard and went to a college out in the country and didn't waste it away partying at some big name tranny factory university. I know another that spent his 18-25 years not doing shit to learn anything useful. He works at a warehouse and lives with his parents with no end in sight.
I get it, shit sucks and it's a hell of a lot worse than when I was a 20-something. I also look around and see so many people just make excuses and give up.
Do you not see it as a problem that a warehouse worker is living with his parents with no end in sight? A job like that should be enough to get one's life sorted out rather than something that barely pay subsistence wages.
A house in my neighborhood, which is about 1 hour out from the edge of the nearest "city", costs more than many very nice private islands in other nations, even private islands with cottages already built on them.
It would be a joke, if it weren't so serious.
That's getting significantly harder, too.
We're getting fucked everywhere, and "just move" isn't a feasible long term strategy. At least if you care at all about culture, society, and your kids or grandkids. This isn't sustainable and, although you can still find cheaper property if you move, that won't work forever. They're squeezing us out, and it's intentional. "Just move" just lets them get away with it. It's a real issue, that needs addressing.
No one said they were. They generally follow market trends (although I'm sure there is also major hinkiness there considering many are from massive corporations, but that's a different issue), and it's to do with property prices going up, and the like. No one is asking the landlords for handouts. We're pointing out there's major shifts going on, that are screwing the lower and middle classes, and that's a massive and unsustainable problem.
I like small town culture and society much more than urban anyway, so I'm good there. Unless you mean the Reddit definition of culture, to which I'll just say you can buy avocados, bread, coffee, a toaster, and a coffee pot at the nearest Walmart that can be found anywhere in the US. Still there's a problem. I'd start with cutting off foreign purchase of land myself.
Family I get. They don't make it easy either. I'm not that far away and visit quite a bit and still my mom will make you feel like every second should revolve around being "her" family. I'm trying to build relationships with people that will still be around the last 40 years of my life though. It's gotten where most of the travel I do is to see family anymore, but I want to actually have something with my nephews and cousins down the road. I guess it's actually saved me money. I can stay with my brother for free so that helps once I get myself there.
My landlord response comes from the incessant whining elsewhere where they think the landlord only exists to screw them. It's a reflexive thought. Not really a thing on this site to constantly landlord bash.
For the record, when I said "culture, society, and your kids or grandkids," I meant overall quality of life and cost of living. If the trend continues, future generations will be squeezed out of even owning property outside of the cities. I'm not talking culture/society in the big city sense, I just mean basic American ideals like freedom and upward mobility. Those are being threatened.
Absolutely fucking agreed.
They are also jacking up property taxes. There are people now that have to rebuy every year their property at more than what it was originally sold for.
In Canada, even a shack 4 hours outside the city can go for 500k. You have to take it a step further and go live in a forest fire zone to start seeing a reasonable price. This is all thanks to our glorious leader that brings in 2 new immigrants per minute. Anyways, yeah you have to move.. out of the country...
And what about men who work low pay jobs in specialized industries? No money to move and no jobs to work anywhere that's affordable.
Like I could find a PS5...
You mean when we were prevented from earning the money we need to pay for our housing and instead we were given a small check as humiliation?
That's how supply and demand works, dumbnuts.
The supply of inner-city housing, especially those on the waterfront, is fixed. Maybe a finite number can be added with taller apartment buildings, but it's still relatively fixed. You're not adding a significant portion though to account for the sharp increase in demand.
The demand for this housing has continually gone up thanks to ever-growing population numbers, especially in the inner-city.
More people fighting over the same piece of property means higher prices. Always has, always will. Because there will eventually be some dumbfuck that's willing to pay those higher prices. And frankly, if you want to live in the inner city, you get what you fucking deserve. Urbanites are one of the lowest trash of humanity before you delve into criminals and various other offenders of such nature.
Little more than supply and demand. I doubt she actually had that apartment without some connections helping her out.
Probably so. Probably also doesn't account for improvements of her "similar apartment" that were implemented over time. Not enough to fully account for it all, but enough to certainly add to the cost over time. The reality is that the standards of housing 20 years ago and today are rather different.
Just living is hard to afford now days.
Yes and no. People tend to romanticise "the old days", but the reality is that there were plenty of people who were struggling all throughout history. Reality is that we have it pretty good compared to most of history, the main difference is that most people are far less self-reliant as they were 60+ years ago. Those that are still self-reliant today are able to survive reasonably well thanks to reduced costs. The late 80s, 90s and early 2000s are largely an anomaly of time where so many people went and lost their self-reliance and instead became dependant. And it worked for a time, but it was never going to last forever.
Things have a long way to go before they can truly be considered bad. Yes, people are struggling, there's no doubting that, but it's nowhere near the struggling that even developed countries were facing pre-1960s.
and whose fault is that
Public Defender pay rate?
20 years ago your country's economy was nowhere near outsourced, digitized and automatized as it is today.
I bought my house in 5.