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Throw Twisted Metal into the pile of something that could have been a good Movie/Series (media.communities.win)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +26 / -0
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– 1776ReasonsWhy 37 points 2 years ago +37 / -0

I'm just at the stage of "black main characters? Skip!" I don't think I can ever again trust that they're there because the show is made well, and not just a hodgepodge of box-checking propaganda. I'll stick with my anime and 20+ year old movies for now. Alas, Sweet Tooth does look pretty good there.

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– Smith1980 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

I’ve come to that conclusion with anything after 2014. Black or female lead I’m not watching without a recommendation from a trusted source because like you said you have to wonder about the casting. Since Denzel is one of my all time favorites I give him leeway but mostly I watch older stuff

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– kinezumi 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

I was alright with Will Smith until he became the world's most pussy-whipped little cuck imaginable.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm close. However, Twisted Metal has a few canonically black characters, so this raises no alarms for me. It wouldn't be Twisted Metal without Axel. And if Bruce Cochrane (AKA Thumper) made an appearance that'd be awesome.

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– acp_k2win 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Anthony Mackie can't carry a show, he just doesn't have a presence. Not that the script did him any favors but he tanked Altered Carbon season 2. I can just imagine the pitch meeting "OK we can go ahead with the project but we need to push our ESG score. Who is the cheapest black guy we can get that audiences might recognize from something else?"

The best I've seen him in is Outside The Wire where he wasn't the lead and he played against type.

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– Assassin47 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Altered Carbon season 2

Ugh, talk about another wasted series. Season 1 was so good.

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– LastRights 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Season 1 had a female cop and a Muslim colleague. Not sure if it was book accurate, but it came across as diversity casting to me.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

The female cop is from the book, but she is much more Latina and less American in the show. Annoying. The Muslim is not in the book.

I recommend the book, it's crafted nicely.

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– Smith1980 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I only saw the first season. How did they mess it up in the second season?

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– Devidose 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

First off, they badly combined the story of the second [find more alien tech] and third [Takashi ends up back on his homeworld] books. The first season roughly follows the first book with some changes in places for various reasons.

Second, because of how Sleeves work any character can change their body so Rick Flagg from Suicide Squad becomes Falcon from the MCU. This also means actors can play multiple characters when someone else uses the Sleeve which results in Mackie playing a sassy black lesbian at one point who is somehow more competent than who Takashi Kovacs is meant to be as a super soldier/spy Envoy.

Third, it's mostly a story about Kovacs love interest who really just wasn't anywhere near as prominent as the show makes her out to be, nor is she who the show makes her in regards to the Envoys.

Now while body changing does still fit within the lore of the story the choice of protagonist for the second season was shit because Mackie just isn't very good, regardless of anything else.

Ironically the best thing about the second season is Poe who isn't even meant to be in the story because it's originally Hendrix in the book but his estate didn't want him being used so changes were made, changes which were pretty much universally loved given the turnout of Poe.

Also the ending is dumb since it goes against one of the main points the Envoys stood for, but then because of how things turn out in the final battle someone probably wanted a happy ending to the show rather than how things were when the smoke cleared.

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– Smith1980 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Thanks. The books are on my list of books to buy

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– TerpenoidTester 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

I watched a little of it and they got it half right. The problem was they removed all the driving...which was the entire fucking purpose of the game.

Nobody played Twisted Metal to learn about the world and drivers. Total missed opportunity.

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

You never got tired of being wrecked by the final boss, switching between characters in a vain attempt to find "the best one" and stumbling across gems like this?

The clouds are the place we want to be...far above where we can see...down women's shirts.

And yes, Hammerhead is the best one.

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– Hullohoomans 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I didn't even know the game had a story until a few months after I got it, when I finally looked in the manual for any possible cheat codes.

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– PooperSnooperPrime 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The end of the seasons final episode setup the tournament. Anyones guess if the next season actually focuses fully on the driving. I'm not optimistic. Seeing how some of the other drivers are Mackie's character's friends, I would expect some story of teaming up against Calypso and other not-Twisted Metal's story happening. Also, continuing to have more on-foot violence like Sweet Tooth doing a lot of murdering on foot rather than in-vehicle.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The end of the seasons final episode setup the tournament. Anyones guess if the next season actually focuses fully on the driving.

Lol you can't take a whole season to get to the point of your show

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– yeyeyeya 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

My buddy found the first episode somewhere online the other day and we watched it, it wasn't good, wasn't particularly engaging, and was filled with Marvel-tier quips nonstop. I don't know if it's all this actor can do, or if its a major focus for media now, but it just isn't funny or isn't entertaining to constantly try to aim for some completely forgettable one-liner.

I don't really care what color the person is as the main character in the show, if it isn't some race swapped bullshit, and considering how insanely mediocre Twisted Metal's story is in the first place, I don't think that happened here.

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– ThreeLights 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Give me Terry Crews as Axel or no show at all.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What's the problem? Sweet Tooth looks sick

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– Salixion 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And he's the only one and he's not in it enough. You get teased with other drivers and stuff but they are barely in it more as Easter Eggs.

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