This is why I believe Trump could well end up losing 2024 legitimately and the wailing from Trump supporters is going to be extremely fucking annoying. He keeps doing dumb shit like this and courting neo-cons instead of reaching out to his grass roots base. The worse part is not enough on the right seem to understand this is losing him votes not gaining anything.
Meanwhile he's eroding support from his grass roots base due to his actions on January 6th and abandoning people who would have otherwise voted for him in jail until it was politically convenient and pushing operation warp speed. I don't think people realised how many he pissed off doing this including me. All the fucking idiot needs to do is start attacking gaming again to make the evangelicals happy and then I really am just done.
The only reason he'd win now is pure luck from the democrats fucking up so badly the normies get on side because they see how bad the democrats are. I also hope if he does lose and immediately calls for 'protests' everyone like when he got indicted tells him to fuck off so they stay out of jail, Trump worship was a mistake, we need a real movement that's not tied to any one person.
Just as soon as I see Trump supporters telling me that Trump is loosing their votes, I'll consider your argument. Until then, all I've seen are die-hard Trump supporters. And shockingly, Trump has a huge edge with young conservatives more than Boomers.
As for Jan 6. He's literally one of the only people that can do anything for them (should he become president), and his current outreach is basically going through MTG.
Also, this whole post was about Donald Trump Jr. who isn't running.
And what kind of idiot were you that genuinely worshiped Trump? Hardly anyone on the right actually saw Trump as a God-Emperor. Hardly anyone still does. Even among Trump supporters, that is a minority.
Did I write it was me? No I didn't, what is it with people on the internet who just make shit up about a person they're directly confronting when the post history is available for people to see? I was posting in general, I don't think there were that many people who were obsessed with him or anything but even in his own movement they did unnecessarily put him on a pedestal.
If we’re speaking about literal worship, no one. If we’re speaking about cope where people say that big mistakes are actually all part of a plan, that was definitely a big thing on TD when I used it. It’s what ultimately drove me away.
Also, what absurdity is this:
Who did you see that engaged in Trump worship that wasn't basically recruited by QAnon?
You just disallowed the entire population of people u/Lethn is complaining about. “Who did you see engaged in Trump worship aside from the surprisingly large and active community that still insists all is playing out according to plan?” Gee, I don’t know, why shouldn’t I count those guys exactly?
Unless you’re alleging that those people didn’t exist before Q, in which case I can assure you that “[ineffective appointee] is actually a great choice who’s secretly fixing everything behind the scenes” was a thing from the moment Trump took office. Whether Q is an intentional psyop or a schizo who actually believes, or just a troll, it worked because people that want to believe Trump is the most brilliant 4D chess playing genius the world has ever seen were already plentiful within the MAGA camp, not because it recruited them from outside of it.
Depends what you mean by "worship." His core fans rationalize his blunders, but most of us trying to find some light in the darkness vote for Trump because he's so far the only proven opponent to the bureaucratic state and especially the government/corporate media axis of evil. The fact that they're still hounding him, trying to railroad him into the klink, is his greatest endorsement as far as I'm concerned.
My hope is that, as a second-term lame duck, any restraint he may have felt in his first term will be gone.
For this I am even willing to ignore his absolutely vain, idiotic vaporing about his vaccine "success" and his deployment of the MOAB.
Yeah, that's actually pretty much how I feel; I will vote for him again, but mostly because every other choice is seriously worse and there's still a chance that Trump is at least well-intentioned and can score some victories. I also would consider DeSantis, but I have a hard time seriously believing he intends to run this time around.
I discount those people because the Boomer Numerology crew was always a silly minority. And I would argue that many of those people were not rabid Trump supporters, they were just regular Trump supporters whom were groomed by some Fed Gay Op into becoming what they ended up as.
Well, it's good to know that you discount exactly the group OP is complaining about when considering if OP's arguments have merit. Of course they're "a minority," but that's not what he said now, is it? You know that TD's top two rules boil down to "don't make serious complaints about or criticisms of Trump"? I'm not saying I don't understand why they have those, but it's impossible to ignore that the entire forum is structured, by definition, around ignoring and downplaying Trump's mistakes as not material to the effectiveness of the man. Again, this doesn't mean that everyone there is totally unaware of Trump's flaws, or even that no one there ever mentions those flaws there, but it is a commitment to ignoring some awful large elephants.
A good few of the MAGA types were not keeping Trump honest, the current opposition, the non-neo con types were not confronting Trump as much as they should have over his deals with neo-cons.
If they had done they would have been able to keep Trump in line and also be effective opposition. Instead during the midterms they grew extremely complacent especially with regards to the tactics the democrats were using. Trump endorsed utterly shit candidates like Dr.Oz and if they had the balls to call him out and field their own candidate the republicans might not have lost that ridiculous race.
Populists can't defeat Trump because populists are not bigger than Trump within the Republican Party. Trump is an avatar of populism within the party itself. Populists can't field their own candidates in defiance of both Trump and the establishment. You might as well vote libertarian and hope for the best (or really just move to New Hampshire).
I wish Steve Bannon was helping to run Trump's campaign, but unfortunately I don't get to make that call.
Bravo. The dude showed who was on January 6 and beyond. The recent Stonetoss that shows Trump being arrested and asking supporters for help, and then shows that being watched on a TV in prison by a guy wearing the QAnon Shaman hat, really kind of says it all. He made it very clear that “support” is a one way street.
That one is sort of forbidden, but not entirely. It used to be that Antonio and several others would jump down the throats of anyone saying anything as well as reporting the comments because they can be considered a rule violation, but several of those people have been less active lately.
Yep. Don Jr is all over the place simping for Anheuser Busch. Trying to get Trump's brainless minions to embrace neutering and mutilating their kids and stop the boycott.
Then Virgil is all like, “grab thee a bit of Satan’s leg hair, we’re gonna climb down him, and then up him without turning around, to get back to earth. Ummm… it’s hard to explain, I’ll show you when we get to that point. Also, watch out for his giant ding-dong as we go.”
I really think that voting for a nearly lifelong democrat and expecting a champion of conservative values negates a lot of the victimhood you want by claiming "betrayed me :(."
Conservatives are useless midwits getting triggered over a tiny minority of freaks, meanwhile the globalists steal more of our money, remove more of our rights, and lock us up while letting criminals go free. Trump not joining along is only gonna benefit him. Conservatives are a laughing stock at this point
This is why I believe Trump could well end up losing 2024 legitimately and the wailing from Trump supporters is going to be extremely fucking annoying. He keeps doing dumb shit like this and courting neo-cons instead of reaching out to his grass roots base. The worse part is not enough on the right seem to understand this is losing him votes not gaining anything.
Meanwhile he's eroding support from his grass roots base due to his actions on January 6th and abandoning people who would have otherwise voted for him in jail until it was politically convenient and pushing operation warp speed. I don't think people realised how many he pissed off doing this including me. All the fucking idiot needs to do is start attacking gaming again to make the evangelicals happy and then I really am just done.
The only reason he'd win now is pure luck from the democrats fucking up so badly the normies get on side because they see how bad the democrats are. I also hope if he does lose and immediately calls for 'protests' everyone like when he got indicted tells him to fuck off so they stay out of jail, Trump worship was a mistake, we need a real movement that's not tied to any one person.
Just as soon as I see Trump supporters telling me that Trump is loosing their votes, I'll consider your argument. Until then, all I've seen are die-hard Trump supporters. And shockingly, Trump has a huge edge with young conservatives more than Boomers.
As for Jan 6. He's literally one of the only people that can do anything for them (should he become president), and his current outreach is basically going through MTG.
Also, this whole post was about Donald Trump Jr. who isn't running.
And what kind of idiot were you that genuinely worshiped Trump? Hardly anyone on the right actually saw Trump as a God-Emperor. Hardly anyone still does. Even among Trump supporters, that is a minority.
Did I write it was me? No I didn't, what is it with people on the internet who just make shit up about a person they're directly confronting when the post history is available for people to see? I was posting in general, I don't think there were that many people who were obsessed with him or anything but even in his own movement they did unnecessarily put him on a pedestal.
Who did you see that engaged in Trump worship that wasn't basically recruited by QAnon?
Most of the people on The Donald didn't engage in Trump worship (in a non-satirical way).
If we’re speaking about literal worship, no one. If we’re speaking about cope where people say that big mistakes are actually all part of a plan, that was definitely a big thing on TD when I used it. It’s what ultimately drove me away.
Also, what absurdity is this:
You just disallowed the entire population of people u/Lethn is complaining about. “Who did you see engaged in Trump worship aside from the surprisingly large and active community that still insists all is playing out according to plan?” Gee, I don’t know, why shouldn’t I count those guys exactly?
Unless you’re alleging that those people didn’t exist before Q, in which case I can assure you that “[ineffective appointee] is actually a great choice who’s secretly fixing everything behind the scenes” was a thing from the moment Trump took office. Whether Q is an intentional psyop or a schizo who actually believes, or just a troll, it worked because people that want to believe Trump is the most brilliant 4D chess playing genius the world has ever seen were already plentiful within the MAGA camp, not because it recruited them from outside of it.
Depends what you mean by "worship." His core fans rationalize his blunders, but most of us trying to find some light in the darkness vote for Trump because he's so far the only proven opponent to the bureaucratic state and especially the government/corporate media axis of evil. The fact that they're still hounding him, trying to railroad him into the klink, is his greatest endorsement as far as I'm concerned.
My hope is that, as a second-term lame duck, any restraint he may have felt in his first term will be gone.
For this I am even willing to ignore his absolutely vain, idiotic vaporing about his vaccine "success" and his deployment of the MOAB.
Yeah, that's actually pretty much how I feel; I will vote for him again, but mostly because every other choice is seriously worse and there's still a chance that Trump is at least well-intentioned and can score some victories. I also would consider DeSantis, but I have a hard time seriously believing he intends to run this time around.
Nowadays it seems obvious that the whole Qanon deranged bullshit was some group's version of the Soviet Union's Operation Trust.
I discount those people because the Boomer Numerology crew was always a silly minority. And I would argue that many of those people were not rabid Trump supporters, they were just regular Trump supporters whom were groomed by some Fed Gay Op into becoming what they ended up as.
Well, it's good to know that you discount exactly the group OP is complaining about when considering if OP's arguments have merit. Of course they're "a minority," but that's not what he said now, is it? You know that TD's top two rules boil down to "don't make serious complaints about or criticisms of Trump"? I'm not saying I don't understand why they have those, but it's impossible to ignore that the entire forum is structured, by definition, around ignoring and downplaying Trump's mistakes as not material to the effectiveness of the man. Again, this doesn't mean that everyone there is totally unaware of Trump's flaws, or even that no one there ever mentions those flaws there, but it is a commitment to ignoring some awful large elephants.
A good few of the MAGA types were not keeping Trump honest, the current opposition, the non-neo con types were not confronting Trump as much as they should have over his deals with neo-cons.
If they had done they would have been able to keep Trump in line and also be effective opposition. Instead during the midterms they grew extremely complacent especially with regards to the tactics the democrats were using. Trump endorsed utterly shit candidates like Dr.Oz and if they had the balls to call him out and field their own candidate the republicans might not have lost that ridiculous race.
Populists can't defeat Trump because populists are not bigger than Trump within the Republican Party. Trump is an avatar of populism within the party itself. Populists can't field their own candidates in defiance of both Trump and the establishment. You might as well vote libertarian and hope for the best (or really just move to New Hampshire).
I wish Steve Bannon was helping to run Trump's campaign, but unfortunately I don't get to make that call.
Bravo. The dude showed who was on January 6 and beyond. The recent Stonetoss that shows Trump being arrested and asking supporters for help, and then shows that being watched on a TV in prison by a guy wearing the QAnon Shaman hat, really kind of says it all. He made it very clear that “support” is a one way street.
You're dangerously close to becoming the TDS Imp.
Close? Dudes been there for a long time.
His criticisms are often contradictory to earlier ones he's made and almost always unhinged.
Hey, my posts are at least coherent.
lol
No, it's more that OP has TDS. He's been shilling DeSantis longer than you've had an account.
“(((they)))” are not a forbidden topic if that’s what you're talking about,
That one is sort of forbidden, but not entirely. It used to be that Antonio and several others would jump down the throats of anyone saying anything as well as reporting the comments because they can be considered a rule violation, but several of those people have been less active lately.
Then I would just go ahead and post that info tbh
Now what? Is Trump a supporter of the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy to Control the World?
Oh, wait . . . is he a member of the Rothschild cabal?
Maybe a tool of ZOG?
You cranky down-voters might consider an explanation to go along with your votes. I'd genuinely like to know what (((this bullshit))) is all about..
I'm not saying he is, that's just what most people tend to call “a forbidden topic”
Does Junior have his public comments pre-approved by his daddy?
Yep. Don Jr is all over the place simping for Anheuser Busch. Trying to get Trump's brainless minions to embrace neutering and mutilating their kids and stop the boycott.
It's afraid.
Donal Trump Jr. is saying don't let companies use arbitrary measures of the SJ Racket instead of responses from consumers.
Caitlyn Jenner is just an idiot.
Then Virgil is all like, “grab thee a bit of Satan’s leg hair, we’re gonna climb down him, and then up him without turning around, to get back to earth. Ummm… it’s hard to explain, I’ll show you when we get to that point. Also, watch out for his giant ding-dong as we go.”
And who is this quotation of The Inferno aimed at, exactly?
Trump Junior is Judas/Brutus/Cassius and Trump is Jesus/Caesar?
the trumps are the traitors and conservatives are the betrayed
I really think that voting for a nearly lifelong democrat and expecting a champion of conservative values negates a lot of the victimhood you want by claiming "betrayed me :(."
You can see the betrayal coming and still get stabbed in the back. You can still lose even if you always choose the most optimal path.
You can, but you also can't act like a poor victim when you choose a path with an obvious outcome. You lost, it sucks, but the melodrama is pathetic.
Jr says it was a fuck up and is warning about being quick on the trigger. That’s it. He’s not defending the grifter at all.
"People who say to boycott the 95% woke companies instead of the 5% woke companies are worse than the pedos themselves".
Something about that argument doesn't seem right...
Conservatives are useless midwits getting triggered over a tiny minority of freaks, meanwhile the globalists steal more of our money, remove more of our rights, and lock us up while letting criminals go free. Trump not joining along is only gonna benefit him. Conservatives are a laughing stock at this point